07-17-2012, 09:16 AM
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I think I broke a window clip!
I rolled down the right rear window and when I went to roll it up, I heard something break. I can push the window back up with my hands, and it stays up, but I put some tape on it. When I use the switch, it's trying to work.
Would I be OK assuming it's a window clip and buying the parts or should I take it apart first to determine exactly what's wrong?
Can the parts be bought locally or is this a mail order part (or so expensive locally that I wouldn't want it)?
Do these things come in pairs or do I buy them one at a time?
I see different types of replacement window clips, does one work better than the other?
Some ebay auctions say that it's for a particular side, some say one fits all places???
OR is it this one (Autozone calls this a "window guide":
Or do I need this set:
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/web...dow#fragment-3
BTW, I hate Dorman, but given how crappy the OEM part is this could be an improvement.
Then there is the glue I should use??? Do I have to buy a big tube of window weld? That stuff is expensive and I only need a little bit of it Will JB Weld work?
Another thing, I don't think that window has been used even 10 times. The car only has 34K miles on it. Is that a record for a broken window part here?
If I can buy the stuff locally, I assume that I can do this after work?
From what I have read elsewhere, I heat gun should make removing the broken clips easy enough. Correct?
Last edited by zzyzzx : 07-17-2012 at 09:28 AM.
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07-17-2012, 09:40 AM
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Just found this:
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07-17-2012, 07:32 PM
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Crap! It's not the window clip. It's the other plastic piece that holds in the end of the (for lack of a better term) bicycle cable.
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07-17-2012, 09:48 PM
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Do they even make replacment guides for the rear windows?
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07-17-2012, 10:16 PM
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Ill try to remember to look it up for you tomorrow at work. If I find it Ill post you a part number...
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07-18-2012, 10:26 AM
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I bought Dorman 45348, but clearly it's the wrong part and now way will it work. I'm going to try to reassemble what I can and use a piece of wood to hold the window up until I can get the right part.
This is definitely not the right part!!!!
I do not see how this clip can help at all, It does not fit into the track. It does not look like anything that is in there now.
I guess Dorman strikes again!
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07-18-2012, 10:35 AM
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The part that is bad is where the plastic clip hold in the "knot" in the regulator cable. And I have already broken it off so that I can take it apart and maybe see how this stupid thing is supposed to fit, but it doesn't.
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07-18-2012, 10:39 AM
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07-18-2012, 12:07 PM
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Rant: The factory service manual doesn't tell you how to remove a rear window regulator!
I now have a piece of a 2" x 4" wedged in there and held in by 4 tie bands to keep the window up. At least this way I can drive the car and not be concerned about the window falling down again!
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07-18-2012, 08:20 PM
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Quote:
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Do they even make replacment guides for the rear windows?
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According to Dorman, yes, but reality suggests otherwise. After reviewing various pics, I think the answer is no.
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07-20-2012, 11:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zzyzzx
According to Dorman, yes, but reality suggests otherwise. After reviewing various pics, I think the answer is no.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure the whole regulator has to replaced. I don't think you could get the guides out or in for that matter with out breaking them.
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07-21-2012, 04:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rustyballs_69
Yeah I'm pretty sure the whole regulator has to replaced. I don't think you could get the guides out or in for that matter with out breaking them.
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That is correct and I do have a new window regulator on order.
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07-23-2012, 09:47 AM
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OK, this thing is held in by 6 bolts. 3 brass colored ones and 3 brownish green ones that are longer than the brass colored ones. I assume that the shorter ones hold in the regulator part and the longer ones hold in the motor mount?
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07-23-2012, 12:46 PM
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Pretty sure your right. I haven't had the rear regulator out in a long time.
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07-24-2012, 10:38 PM
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I just put it in. Yes, the shorter bolts go into the regulator part and the longer ones hold in the motor mount. I left the panel off for now because I want to drive the car and make sure it doesn't rattle before I put the panel back on.
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08-14-2012, 12:28 AM
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The left rear window regulator broke on Sunday (Aug 12th), or about 3 weeks after the rear right did.
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08-19-2012, 08:33 PM
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OK, I now have a definite answer on the short vs long bolts. You use some on each side. The regulator uses 2 short bolts and one long bolt. The motor uses 2 long bolts one one short bolt. The odd ones are the ones with the red arrows pointing towards them in this pic:
I.E. - The brownish-green looking bolts are the long bolts.
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08-19-2012, 08:46 PM
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The offending broken window regulator plastic piece looks like this:
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