How Much Power Can The Stock Auto Take?

[Alero2k4]

I mean like daily driver power not just at the strip. I am seriously looking into boosting it and that is the weak point on these cars (beside rods and pistons). I searched and didn't come up with anything.

[-Alero-]

300 i believe

[Alero2k4]

And while were on the topic of trannies, I saw over on J-body, that people who had the b&m shiftplus and the auto trans had real problems when they took them off. The trans would slip way too much...any one here ever taken one off after having it on for 6 or more months? It may just be the different trans???

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by Alero2k4@Jan 26 2006, 08:52 PM
And while were on the topic of trannies, I saw over on J-body, that people who had the b&m shiftplus and the auto trans had real problems when they took them off. The trans would slip way too much...any one here ever taken one off after having it on for 6 or more months? It may just be the different trans???

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no those people are Shloobs, because with the B&M shiftplus you have the option to have it off on setting one or setting 2.

what they did was probably left it on setting 1, which in time with city driving is bad for the clutches and gears. setting 2 is even harder.

i have the B&M shiftplus, and the only time i have used it was wwhen i need it which is close to never. for daily driving it is not needed at all.

after a while of driving with the shift kit on setting 1 or 2, the transmission goes through alot of stress, and in time, wears down the clutches and gears too where they can only function with the shiftkit on, and cannot shift or work in the stock setting.

[-Alero-]

thats all, its really just one of those things you use every once and a while, like in a drag race.

[Redog]

Tranny is pretty much bulletproof, but I cracked mine like an egg

I believe it's 280 ft lbs is the max, I'll look it up later

[2fst4u]

are you sure about your info? the crap about the b&m being hard on a tranny. i've always heard that its easier on the clutches.
who knows

[eag182]

215lbft according to what I have

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by 2fst4u@Jan 27 2006, 12:38 AM
are you sure about your info? the crap about the b&m being hard on a tranny. i've always heard that its easier on the clutches.
who knows

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tru dat. Higher pressures means quicker shifts, which mean less stress on the internals.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by Fast Eddie+Jan 27 2006, 04:42 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fast Eddie @ Jan 27 2006, 04:42 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-2fst4u@Jan 27 2006, 12:38 AM
are you sure about your info?Â;-) the crap about the b&m being hard on a tranny.Â;-) i've always heard that its easier on the clutches.
who knows

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tru dat. Higher pressures means quicker shifts, which mean less stress on the internals.

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then its the gears my bad

[SweetNLow]

i had an autotrans in my car for awhile and then took it out. never had any problems.

[Alero2k4]

K...well I would really like to run more than that. What do I need to do to it to get it to handle more power. I am thinking 300+. Even if it involves a tranny swap. However, keep in mind, the cheaper the better (as in not going too overboard, I am not willing to take shortcuts and risk having to redo stuff).

[doubleN0alero]

how areyou planning on getting at 300+?

[eag182]

let him take care of that, its good he's considering the tranny before any real mods. There is a TON of tranny info over at GRANDAMGT.com. There's a user there thats pushing 350lbft of torque and he's had a lot of tranny work done. His username is tehjohnson and I think he's has a DPP Turbo. There are threads over there about beefing up our trannys. I would join that forum and do some searching.

about a swap, I don't think thats realistic. There was discussion over at gagt and a couple people were talking about the tranny on the supercharged GP, but I'd do a search on that.

[Oldsman]

the one thing the B&M and auto interceptor does is increase the temp of your tranny fluid.

[kwhauck]

Originally posted by eag182@Jan 27 2006, 03:49 PM
let him take care of that, its good he's considering the tranny before any real mods. There is a TON of tranny info over at GRANDAMGT.com. There's a user there thats pushing 350lbft of torque and he's had a lot of tranny work done. His username is tehjohnson and I think he's has a DPP Turbo. There are threads over there about beefing up our trannys. I would join that forum and do some searching.

about a swap, I don't think thats realistic. There was discussion over at gagt and a couple people were talking about the tranny on the supercharged GP, but I'd do a search on that.

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negative, he did it himself, it is no kit or anything, he fabbed it up almost 100% by himself..

[eag182]

100%? I though he "collaberated". Isn't that his dyno on DPP's site?

[Alero2k4]

Originally posted by double0alero+Jan 27 2006, 01:13 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(double0alero @ Jan 27 2006, 01:13 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>how areyou planning on getting at 300+?

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Are you serious??? I could go on for days about how I plan to do it... TURBO+Boost controller to start it off, then eventually a standalone ems, head work with valve train, possibly even nos, let's put it this way, I won't stop in my quest for more power. BUT before the standalone and all that garbage, I need to have a trans built up strong enough, as a matter of fact, that is priority numero uno. Besides I don't want to have to worry about it when I am driving around screwin off and racin' people etc...tempermental stuff sux, and I don't want to worry about it since I definately won't be 'kittyfooting around' (I love that quote...lol)

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let him take care of that, its good he's considering the tranny before any real mods. There is a TON of tranny info over at GRANDAMGT.com. There's a user there thats pushing 350lbft of torque and he's had a lot of tranny work done. His username is tehjohnson and I think he's has a DPP Turbo. There are threads over there about beefing up our trannys. I would join that forum and do some searching.

about a swap, I don't think thats realistic. There was discussion over at gagt and a couple people were talking about the tranny on the supercharged GP, but I'd do a search on that.

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Thanks, i will check it out. I joined and started searching over there, but I can'd find that user name or auto trans build ups...

[doubleN0alero]

didnt john have some issues mixing nos with engine work?

[Spilner521]

Originally posted by Alero2k4@Jan 27 2006, 07:51 PM
Are you serious??? I could go on for days about how I plan to do it... TURBO+Boost controller to start it off, then eventually a standalone ems, head work with valve train, possibly even nos, let's put it this way, I won't stop in my quest for more power. BUT before the standalone and all that garbage, I need to have a trans built up strong enough, as a matter of fact, that is priority numero uno. Besides I don't want to have to worry about it when I am driving around screwin off and racin' people etc...tempermental stuff sux, and I don't want to worry about it since I definately won't be 'kittyfooting around' (I love that quote...lol)

its a lot easier to talk about making 300+ HP than actually doing it. dont get me wrong....it can and has been done (on cavaliers), buts its not as easy as you make it sound. besides your turbo, head work, standalone and tranny, you'll need an efficient charge pipe setup and intercooler, a good quality turbo exhaust manifold and free flowing exhaust at least 3" in diameter, as well as all forged internals. it'll take a lot of time, money and tons of research to get everything to work properly, but it can be done. this will be one helluva setup when its all done with....just realize it will take some time. get boosted