Spoiler Idea! W/photoshop

[Str33tRacer]

I had this idea in my head driving to school today. I love the razzi style spoiler, but, what if it were a little higher... like an SRT-4 style, maybe it would look good maybe like sh**, but if someone could try a photo shop of the exact spoiler, not just draw it, that would be sweet!

[SikMindz]

That mailbox spoiler you got on there is te l337!

[smlzalero]

^ lmao :emotlol:

[Str33tRacer]

yeah i put that on there for style, really adds down force when the capital one pills fly out the back

[Str33tRacer]

Or this one could work!

[smlzalero]

Originally posted by Str33tRacer@Nov 30 2005, 03:29 PM
yeah i put that on there for style, really adds down force when the capital one pills fly out the back
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They send you pills?? Damn! All I get is my statment! :angry:

[eag182]

watch out man redog might give you a warning about your membername :P

[mrmike]

here you go, looks kinda wierd. Hope this is what you meant by srt4 style...
http://members.shaw.ca/master_chief/haha.jpg

[Str33tRacer]

And the retard award goes to!.... no thats not it... yeah i realized the whole "pills deal" after i typed it, yeah i get BILLS i wish it was pills for the headaches i get tho, haha....... reddog give ME a warning?

[mrmike]

in all seriousness it is a good idea. You can buy a spoiler like this from andy's i think.
http://www.members.shaw.ca/master_chief/wing.jpg

[Str33tRacer]

yeah with a body kit to even out the front, i think it would look pretty nice, But widths would be an issue, id have to check it out! Sugestions?

[mrmike]

go to a dealership and measure one.

[Str33tRacer]

i was gunna check online, but what about these two, the acura the exact same, just higher the civic is smoother, but im defnitly likin the srt4

these

[mrmike]

go with the srt4 so it will be all domestic. also, those other spoilers are angled at the back, with the srt4 its flat. The flatness would look better with the flat back of the alero imo

[Str33tRacer]

ahh, very true, ill have to work on it in school tomorrow in my photoshop class, "visit" the dodge dealer, this is a new spoiler option to alero now i see

[SweetNLow]

u dont want anything taller than the razzi trust me dude. its much taller in person than in pics. unless ur goin for the Uncle Ben's look.......

[Str33tRacer]

I was thinking something like this completed down the road.... i like

[keepitsimple]

i have a spoiler kickin around like that it looks just like it, i personally dont like that style, id be willin to sell it for like 170 or so, it has a 3rd brakelight in it, but its in perfect condition, just needs to be painted. mypartents got it for me for christmas for like 200+ or so, never been put on, lemme kno, its a jsp spoiler. i can get the exact name and possibly pics if u want.

[PrImEtImE]

I'm liking that photo shop for what you want accomplished down the road! That looks real nice, those rims and the spoiler together... :thumb:

[Str33tRacer]

Thanks!!! its my fabalous paint.doc art work. haha keepitsimple. If you have pics post them, Because the srt spoiler is 160 plus shipping unpainted. Im really interested

[Redog]

Originally posted by eag182@Nov 30 2005, 04:37 PM
watch out man redog might give you a warning about your membername :P
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:glare:

[Str33tRacer]

Ill try to post the new photoshop its not letting me and its a 70KB file :( :huh: ill have it up by tonight, i really like the way it looks

[Menace]

I hope that everyone realizes that the rear spoiler will do nothing but change your appearence because the alero if frontwheel drive.

[SikMindz]

That was a dumb statement.

Irregardless of being FWD or RWD the point of a rear spoiler (in a hypothetical racing situation) is to create downforce on the rear portion of the car, in effect keeping the tires planted to the ground.

In the end spoilers on consumer cars are almost purely there for aesthetics. Until you reach ridiculously fast speeds downforce created by a spoiler is negligible.

Edit: Street- try resizing the chop to like 450 x whatever. 70Kb is pretty damn big for a chop of this caliber...

[nonmoalero]

Originally posted by SikMindz@Dec 1 2005, 09:38 AM
Irregardless of being FWD or RWD the point of a rear spoiler (in a hypothetical racing situation) is to create downforce on the rear portion of the car, in effect keeping the tires planted to the ground.
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I know I am going to get busted for this being off topic, but, regardless of what you have heard, "irregardless" is a redundancy. The suffix "-less" on the end of the word already makes the word negative. It doesn't need the negative prefix "ir-" added to make it even more negative. :P

[SikMindz]

The word irregardless is frowned upon in the English language anyways. Regardless is the correct term to use (as they have the same meaning) but I just like the sound of irregardless better.

[cherrington17]

wow.. i got my english lesson for the day.

and the factory spoiler on my car DOES produce downforce,which helps me kill at the local track! i'm not sure what kind of ones you guys have that they don't work. :glare:

back on topic for me...

str33t, looks decent. keep your eye on the prize, your vision for a final product looks pretty good. :thumb:





(NOTE to all who don't know me that well: entire middle section is a big steamy load. :poo: :lol: )

[Youngblood77]

lmao ^

[-Alero-]

i say stick with the razzi wing.

[smlzalero]

Originally posted by cherrington17@Dec 1 2005, 12:21 PM
wow.. i got my english lesson for the day.

and the factory spoiler on my car DOES produce downforce,which helps me kill at the local track! i'm not sure what kind of ones you guys have that they don't work. :glare:

back on topic for me...

str33t, looks decent. keep your eye on the prize, your vision for a final product looks pretty good. :thumb:





(NOTE to all who don't know me that well: entire middle section is a big steamy load. :poo: :lol: )
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um... technically, the middle section o fyour post is:
back on topic for me...
:emotlol:
and it's true that's a big steamy load.. LOL

[keepitsimple]

actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.

[SikMindz]

Ummm...did you just skip the entireity of the thread and post without reading? I'm PREEEETTTY sure that's what the last like 10 posts said.

[pawzbear]

huh? lmao i liked the joke photoshop of the srt4.. imma try that sometime. :P

but yeh i got the razzi and i dont drive my car at the speeds in which it will have any real effect on performance.. its just for looks. hell. oh and its freakin high too, much more so than i thought soooo a higher one may look a little out of place...

[cherrington17]

umm... try reading the END of my post. notice that i said it was ALL MADE UP! i know a spoiler doesn't affect speed at all.... and unless you have a drag car, its not gonna help your stability at all either. consumer cars have NO need for a spoiler other then looks, end of story.

geeze.... i thought -alero- was the only post skimmer, i didn't know we had noobs who were going to try to take his title. :glare:

[johny_boy32]

Originally posted by keepitsimple@Dec 2 2005, 12:10 AM
actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.
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I'm sorry but I think you all got hit by the stupid bug. Have any of you looked outside your dining room window lately to see what kind of car actually sits in your driveway....AN ALERO!!! What the hell do you need downforce for when you can only go 109 mph? Seriously. Spoilers on our cars are soley for the purpose of looks and looks only.

Now get back on topic. Stick with the razzi spoiler. It looks the best and is actually taller in person than it looks in the photos.

[Str33tRacer]

SRT 4 spoiler..... 8.5 inches, if anyone has the razzi spoiler plase post the height, because it would make alot of sence. from what i can see the razzi is no taller than a Civic SI spoiler

[jabartram]

From the highest point of the bottom of the razzi, to the top of the trunk is 4.75 inches.

[keepitsimple]

well way to be a dink about it, i obviosly thought u were serious about it, figured id help, u out, soryy i missed the last part.






(thanks for beings a dink when i was trying to be nice tho.

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

Originally posted by johny_boy32+Dec 1 2005, 09:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(johny_boy32 @ Dec 1 2005, 09:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-keepitsimple@Dec 2 2005, 12:10 AM
actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.
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I'm sorry but I think you all got hit by the stupid bug. Have any of you looked outside your dining room window lately to see what kind of car actually sits in your driveway....AN ALERO!!! What the hell do you need downforce for when you can only go 109 mph? Seriously. Spoilers on our cars are soley for the purpose of looks and looks only.

Now get back on topic. Stick with the razzi spoiler. It looks the best and is actually taller in person than it looks in the photos.
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you're right AND wrong in the same sentence. after 70mph, aerodynamics become very important to how a vehicle handles. But, I've been to the speed limiter on my Alero and didn't feel any real danger because of the handling. our cars were built well to handle up to that speed. (take off the limiter, and you might need some aero help though.)

[Str33tRacer]

its not that easy to just "take off the limiter" but back to the spoiler style.... Ok so the SRT is 3.75 inches higher than the razzi. But if you look at the first picture, yes i can see how that looks retarded, but lowered with rims and a kit, i think it adds to the "Flow" of the car. The only 2 door red alero i have seen with the razzi is the one on PFYC. with the razzi front, i was planning on the AAS front because of the style. correct me im wrong but in my opinion the same spoiler can look smaller on a 2door than a 4door, because of the extra reat end room.... right?

[Str33tRacer]

new photoshop

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

in my opinion that looks like poo. The rear end isn't flat. the trunk does curve up a bit, so a spoiler with a SLIGHT raking would look good. Therefore, the SRT spoiler does not look good.

why do you want a high-rise spoiler on a car that was never factory-equipped with one? just so your locals can call you a ricer? double0 hit the nail on the head, just get something that goes well with the looks. The only real funtional spoilers look bad.

[Str33tRacer]

idk, ive always liked the razzi, like ive seen it and im like ok, thats a nice spoiler but nothing eye popping, but when i saw the photoshop i was like, wow that cars insane, i think it catches youre eye alot more

[mrmike]

If you post your car ideas on the net, you aren't going to get an accurate answer about whether or not its cool or good because...

A. People will hate it just because insulting it is convienient and risk free.

B. Different cultural groups like different things, and forums ususally only represent one group of people, for example Aleromod is (I think) mainly white north american men and women between the ages of 21-35, so things that younger people would like such as wings, aggressive body kits, vinyl graphics and rice stuff, are hated because they are associated with kids who, in the car world, are seen as stupid, inexpierienced and mindless spoiled trend followers.

C. People who really like your idea either won't post a comment or they give short, bland replies like, "looks good, I like it, cool, etc". They will rarely tell you what they like about it or anything that could advance your idea, or make you feel better about yourself.

D. Everyone knows everything. If you do something, someone will know that it is wrong. Also, everyone apparently spends many hours a day at the track, collecting data on the usefulness and effect on performance of everything you can do to or put on an automobile.

E. If you ask random people thier opinion, you aren't going to get the answer you want ;)

[cherrington17]

(in light of hearing the measurements) personally, i think the razzi sticks up plenty high enough. measure from the top of the back window to the top of the trunk. see how much room that is. i have a 2 door and i don't think its gonna be much more then 12". if you have a spoiler that sticks up 8" it will look wierd.

pic posted courtesy of jabratm. (in a different thread, i just pirated it)

http://invision.aleromod.com/uploads/post-90-1129775076.jpg

i think that style spoiler, any higher up is gonna look wierd. maybe not through... i stand to be corrected.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by johny_boy32+Dec 1 2005, 10:20 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(johny_boy32 @ Dec 1 2005, 10:20 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-keepitsimple@Dec 2 2005, 12:10 AM
actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.
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I'm sorry but I think you all got hit by the stupid bug. Have any of you looked outside your dining room window lately to see what kind of car actually sits in your driveway....AN ALERO!!! What the hell do you need downforce for when you can only go 109 mph? Seriously. Spoilers on our cars are soley for the purpose of looks and looks only.

Now get back on topic. Stick with the razzi spoiler. It looks the best and is actually taller in person than it looks in the photos.
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uhh i think he was explaining what a spoiler's purpose was, not the purpose of a spoiler on an alero.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat+Dec 2 2005, 09:46 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(AlbinoMonkeyRat @ Dec 2 2005, 09:46 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by johny_boy32@Dec 1 2005, 09:20 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-keepitsimple@Dec 2 2005, 12:10 AM
actually a spoiler has no speed effect, it pushes the ass end of the car down to maintaine control, ur not faster because of it, it helps stability at high speeds, and u have to be going fast for it to work, and in a rwd vehicle it maintains stability as well as adds traction, but not much, they are mostly for looks.
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I'm sorry but I think you all got hit by the stupid bug. Have any of you looked outside your dining room window lately to see what kind of car actually sits in your driveway....AN ALERO!!! What the hell do you need downforce for when you can only go 109 mph? Seriously. Spoilers on our cars are soley for the purpose of looks and looks only.

Now get back on topic. Stick with the razzi spoiler. It looks the best and is actually taller in person than it looks in the photos.
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you're right AND wrong in the same sentence. after 70mph, aerodynamics become very important to how a vehicle handles. But, I've been to the speed limiter on my Alero and didn't feel any real danger because of the handling. our cars were built well to handle up to that speed. (take off the limiter, and you might need some aero help though.)
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true true. and i dont think there are too many of us taking any 100+ sharp turns either. so i guess we're ok cause no one has complained yet, heh

and come to think of it. how many of us have actually touch 130+ :( it takes so long its a rare occurance anyway (with speed limiter eliminated)

[Str33tRacer]

Maybe the razzi fans are right, but when i personally look at the PFYC car, im like maybe 3 more inches on that spoiler would look better. But if there was anyway to see that car with an AAS kit and better rims, im sure it would change my mind, anyone up for that photoshop?

[-Alero-]

im sure yo ucan get risers made or make them yourself. which basically are spacers to raise the wing of your choice.

[OLDSskool]

IMO, that chop makes the car look hot, but it will never look like that, just not proportioned correctly. If you want a car that looks like that, buy an older eclipse... looks like that right ouf of the box basically! lol

[MixtapeMessiah]

I was thinkin of using a 2000 Celica spoiler, not eh GTS high rise one, the regular GT wing is real nice and I measured it out and an inch bigger than the regular spoiler for the Alero, so Im thinkin of doin that and its only like 80 bux so :thumb:

[Str33tRacer]

Definitly not going with a JDM, but i like the flow of the eclipses because even when theyre not moving.... they look fast..... i like it.... one day it will happed haha

[MCKALERO03]

If the end product is going to turn out anything like this...
http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/viewtopic...highlight=alero (http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33629&highlight=alero)
(scroll down a little)
I say stick with the razzi...
I don't think that spoiler is off a neon but it's similar... and quite unattractive

[Str33tRacer]

ick no, thats what 13 inches high?

[cherrington17]

i find it funny that they said it was a neon at first. alero's look NOTHING like neons. lol

photoshops do work well in some cases, but unless you can get Definitive measurements and completely accurate 'chops you might see a good photoshop and get a terrible end product. i'd take some measurements of both and actually put them on the car. see where things line up.

that last alero looks terrible with a narrow high wing like that... just don't want your car looking similar, ya know?

[Str33tRacer]

This Wing looks totaly different

Now you people will see the difference lol

[bnight04]

I hope thats a photochop.

[MCKALERO03]

^nope, that is an actual car in sterling heights, MI...haha

[El Pablo]

oh my friging god thats beyond gay

[nonmoalero]

The only way that could look any worse.....nevermind, it can't get any worse! :wtf: Well, I take that back, maybe if the wing was painted neon green or hot pink it could look worse! :emotlol:

[alero35b]

looks like an expensive shopping cart....

[sound_xtreme]

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[mrmike]

are those black steelies with chrome rings? Man that wing is like 12" tall. I bet that thing is full of APC and walmart parts. At least he put on a fart can to complete the look :emotlol:

[Str33tRacer]

fart cannon i was gunna say a Coffe can, that poor excuse for metal isnt even an exhaust