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lethalero01
03-08-2006, 02:53 AM
just wondering if its really worth my time to put all tha work any money in my alero...is there a really noticable diff. in 0-60 times...thanks
Coupe
03-08-2006, 07:51 AM
0-60 mph?
0-60 ft?
Redog
03-08-2006, 10:25 AM
I have the v6 and went from 16.20 to 14.53 in the 1/4 mile :cool:
Menace
03-08-2006, 10:54 AM
Yah its worth it. Is it worth making any car faster? It manners how fast you wanna go.
battistoni21
03-08-2006, 11:18 AM
I think it would be. Your getting a car that no body really fixes up to be a decent speed. So your unique by doing it, at least I think everyone with a nice alero is.
AlbinoMonkeyRat
03-08-2006, 12:42 PM
It's only worth it if you think you'll be satisfied with the result. You get what you pay for with these cars.
That said, if you love your car already and it's still stock, it will be worth it to mod.
cherrington17
03-08-2006, 01:05 PM
personally, to me, its not worth killing my tranny, i'll do a little engine work, but stick with mostly looks...
lethalero01
03-08-2006, 01:11 PM
sorry i should have been more specific...0-60 MPH...and i do love my car...im just wondering how quick i can get it without turbo or s/c...anyways thanks for tha comments
AlbinoMonkeyRat
03-08-2006, 02:01 PM
well, redog's 1/8 mph is about 73 at about 9.5 (just averaging the times on the slips at the track part of the board), so if you can break 60mph in under 8 seconds or so, you'd have one hell of an engine. Yeah, it'll be possible to do it without turbo or s/c. the cheapest way is nitrous. the most reliable way would be more expensive than turbo.
King Asoka
03-08-2006, 02:25 PM
IMO, If your going to do it, do it right.
get yourself a bullet proof tranny, and then go all out on the engine. you will have the fastest grocery getter around.
I had big plans for the hoe, but after looking into the cost to get it done I decided to do only a few mods. CAI, Exhaust.
If you want a high HP car, buy one with a better after market for parts or buy a car that alreaday has the HP you want.
There are a few hoes in the works now that are going to be pretty fast, so far there is only one who is investing in his tranny and he plans on running some serious boost. as far as I know, I could be wrong.
but in the end it all comes down to you, what do you really want. hopefully some of the guys on here will pipe up about their experiences with this as well as the cost involved.
This would be a relatively cheap build if you can do all the work yourself, but for me I would be paying others to do it for me, so the cost is much higher.
good luck with it if you decide to go ahead.
lethalero01
03-08-2006, 10:18 PM
im looking to b quick...like 0-60 in 6's and i need a good acceleration at higher gears and speeds...im thinking my little alero is not going to b tha car for me anymore
2fst4u
03-08-2006, 11:22 PM
no, i think you want a viper or vette. not an alero. your standards are a little too high.
lethalero01
03-09-2006, 12:36 AM
theres actually alot of cars priced between 20-30k that can do that...when tha alero was new...a gls was 21...guess it just missd out on tha horsepoer boom...well it was a nice car id recommend it to anyone not looking for speed
FutureEcotecOwnerAgain
03-09-2006, 04:52 AM
So thats it man, your just gonna give up on the Hoe like that? I dont know what it is with everyone nowadays thinking their gonna get 14's in the 1/4 cheap. I mean Redog has a really nice and quick Alero, but he has put money and effort into it. I've been reading alot of posts lately and it seems if everyone is dissapointed with the power of the Hoe, well it is what it is, an Alero, not a Camaro or Mustang, or Corvette for that matter. I've been getting on this forum since like Aug of 04 and back then this site was boomin with people wanting to build a quick Alero and there were alot of people coming along with their projects and now it seems if there isnt anyone doing stuff like this anymore. I know I traded my Alero in for a Mustang GT, and I love the Stang, its been my favorite car since I was little. But I must say, there are plenty of Stangs on the road and I'm just another one thats modding, one that noones gonna notice even if it is fast because there are so many fast ones. I just got off my Mustang forum and there was over 7,000 people on there, including members and guests, and right now theres only like 2 on here including myself. In the time I had my Hoe I added intake, header, and exhaust. I was an auto, 4 door with the Ecotec and it wasnt fast, but quick and would surprise the hell out of alot of ricers and other people. I can seriously say if I didnt get rid of it, I would have bought me the 62mm t/b and cams from Level Zero and maybe even have it supercharged by now, but hey I wanted the stang so I bought it. Believe it or not, I wanna buy another Hoe with the 5spd and Ecotec and do the same mods as before and then some. Before I finish I wanna say dont stop modding just because you cant have a 14 second 1/4 mile time with a couple cheap mods. Its gonna take time and you gotta work at it and after the finished product I'm sure you will be happy with the finished product.
Coupe
03-09-2006, 10:21 AM
How fast your car is isnt determined by 0-60mph. Its judged by your 1/4 mile time. There is no way to clock 0-60mph accurately.
I got into the 14's relatively easily and somewhat cheaply.
b-spot
03-09-2006, 12:03 PM
Hah, a vette to get a 6s 0-60? Are you guys on crack?
The truth of it is, if you want a quick car for a low price, buy one that already is, or buy a forced induction car so you can up the boost without spending much cash.
My alero was $22,000 CDN new, with zero options. 0-60: high 8's? 1/4 mile: 16.5 or so
My cobalt was $24,500 CDN. Loaded. Leather, sunroof, mp3 deck subwoofer, power windows. 0-60: 5.9 1/4 mile: 14.5
For another $1000 I'm in the 13's and still with warranty.
If you want to be unique and get a lot more respect for a car that runs good times, do up the alero. Lots of respect for the people that have found a way to make these things go.
Coupe
03-09-2006, 12:55 PM
Here try this site. I dont consider this accurate at all but its fun.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
lethalero01
03-09-2006, 06:58 PM
im just frustrated man...i got this bone stock alero...not a 5 speed so its slower already...and i just wanted to get somewhere quick...i dont care about top speeds...its a car for driving not for racing...i dont care if i impress or not...im impatient...and tired of not being able to pass multiple slow ppl...i owned an aurora...with a chip...and that thing was brutally fast for as big and tha year it was...it had everything...and i think i was spoiled...im just down on my alero right now...cuz it doesnt have ANYTHING to it...and its going to b cheaper to trade in...if i knew how to do anything it b cheaper and easier...im looking for a road car...that can pass a 30 mph minivan...my alero aint gettin tha job done...congrats to those who rock
I went from a 16.1 1/4 mile to a 13.8 1/4 mile... i'm looking for more..
my car was $11,000.00 out the door since they were trying to get rid of the 2door 5spds that didn't sell well..
and by that calculator I do a 0-60mph in 4.59 seconds.. wooooo
lethalero01
03-10-2006, 12:50 AM
ive been hearing that a interceptor transmission helps out alot anyone have any exp. with it???? :offtopic:
Spilner521
03-10-2006, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by lethalero01@Mar 10 2006, 12:50 AM
ive been hearing that a interceptor transmission helps out alot anyone have any exp. with it???? :offtopic:
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you're talking about the AutoTrans Interceptor. there's also the B&M ShiftPlus. they are both electronic shift improvers. they make the automatic transmissions shift quicker and harder. I've never used the Interceptor but i have the B&M on my car and it works great. plus its got 2 different settings you can switch to from in the car and you can turn it off if you'd like, neither of which you can do with the Interceptor without getting under the hood. it'll help a little in acceleration, but you'll really benefit from it if you have engine mods to go with it. either way its a good mod to have.
to answer the question of "is it worth it to make my alero faster"...like others have said...it depends on you and if you like your car and are willing to spend some money and time on it. to me it is worth it. i ended buying my alero after the 2000 Z24 cavalier i was going to get was bought an hour before i got to the dealership :pissed: :pissed: i never really intended to make the alero super fast but i like the car and wanted a little more pick up...like you.....only the tuning bug bit hard.....and i ended up building a turbo kit for my car :thumb:
you can always start with small upgrades like a new air intake, cat back exhaust, new pullies, you know....the "bolt on" mods. then once you get into it and want more power (it always happens so dont deny it :biggrin: ) you can upgrade other things like adding a header and high flow cat to the exhaust, maybe a full cold air intake, new cams....things like that. it all depends on what you want out of your car. any other questions you have just keep asking...thats what the forums are for.
lethalero01
03-10-2006, 02:40 AM
appreciated...that was tha best reply yet...i have tha money to spend thats not a problem...till you get into tha 1000's...i was just flaming on my alero...im going to stick with it...and make it quick...so would you recommend tha tranny first...or wait till i get alot of tha bolt-on stuff first???
FutureEcotecOwnerAgain
03-10-2006, 05:41 AM
I would go ahead and buy a CAI, exhaust, header, and some pulleys. Then worry about the B&M shiftplus for the car. I'm not sure if you posted this, but what engine do you have in your car?
Spilner521
03-11-2006, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by 03EcotecAlero@Mar 10 2006, 05:41 AM
I'm not sure if you posted this, but what engine do you have in your car?
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check the top of the forum...it says "2.4L Twin-Cam Specific Questions"
appreciated...that was tha best reply yet...i have tha money to spend thats not a problem...till you get into tha 1000's...i was just flaming on my alero...im going to stick with it...and make it quick...so would you recommend tha tranny first...or wait till i get alot of tha bolt-on stuff first???
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if it were my car, i'd go ahead with a new air intake (true CAI), a header, 2.25" magnaflow high flow cat, a 26" dynomax thrush magnum glasspack, 2.25" piping and a straight thru muffler of your choice. a true CAI is a little on the expensive side so you can always look for a short ram intake on ebay for a 95-02 cavalier Z24. i had one that i got for 40 or 50 bucks i think. same with the header and magnaflow cat....check ebay. i'm not positive on the header but the cat you can get for 50 or 60 bucks.
the glasspack/resonator will quiet down the exhaust considerably if you dont want it super loud so its up to you on that. you can get one on summitracing.com for 20 bucks - part no. WLK-24205. then have a local exhaust shop bend 2.25" piping for you and attach any straight thru muffler you choose at the end. plus, as said earlier, you can add lighter crank and alternator pullies which will allow the engine to rev quicker and aid in acceleration. the shift improver (whether you choose the interceptor or the b&m) you can install at any time before or after any of these mods...so its up to you.
lethalero01
03-11-2006, 03:21 AM
perfect!!!!!!...thats how you reply to a newbie strugllin with his ride...greatly appreciated
Spilner521
03-11-2006, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by lethalero01@Mar 11 2006, 03:21 AM
perfect!!!!!!...thats how you reply to a newbie strugllin with his ride...greatly appreciated
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no problem. i've been there.....and every little bit helps when you're tryin to learn about your car. feel free to ask any other questions you have.
battistoni21
03-12-2006, 09:11 PM
Hey spilner, thanks for posting thoroughly, I got some good information on that.... I just got a borla cat back and i already have an aem short ram on. Im goin with headers next. What type of headers do you have? I was thinkin of getting the OBX SS ones. After that im going to get a shiftplus kit and then some new pulleys. You think thats a good start?
Spilner521
03-13-2006, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by battistoni21@Mar 12 2006, 09:11 PM
Hey spilner, thanks for posting thoroughly, I got some good information on that.... I just got a borla cat back and i already have an aem short ram on. Im goin with headers next. What type of headers do you have? I was thinkin of getting the OBX SS ones. After that im going to get a shiftplus kit and then some new pulleys. You think thats a good start?
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the AEM short ram and the borla cat-back are a good start. i actually dont have a header. i have a exhaust manifold that the turbo mounts to...its a little different. the OBX header should be good, especially if its stainless, or there's the Pacesetter header. either way make sure the one you get says its for the 2.4 engine. while you're at it, you might as well get the magnaflow high flow cat with the header. make sure you match the pipe size on the cat to the cat back piping. there's no point in adding a header and a catback exhaust if you keep the stock cat. it'll cause a lot of restriction going from the header, down to the 2" cat piping, then back up to the cat-back piping.
i dont know how the borla exhaust sounds, but usually if there's just the muffler at the end, its a little to loud, especially when you add a header...in my opinion anyways...maybe you like the louder exhaust. if you'd like, you can add a glasspack as i stated before. you just have the straight section of the exhaust pipe right after the cat cut off and replace that piece with a glasspack....the longer it is the quieter it'll be, yet it'll still have that aggressive sound to it. its up to you on that.
the shiftplus and lighter pullies sound like good upgrades and after you're finished with all these, it should be a decently quick car and fun to drive. keep us updated.
battistoni21
03-13-2006, 08:56 AM
:beerchug: YES. Thank you. infact i'm going to order a new highflow cat. Thanks for the help man. MUCH appreciated :biggrin:
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