2.4l Turbo, Slip,dyno, Video

[Spy]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/spyhunter/spyslips001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/spyhunter/dynodaynow.jpg
video (http://videos.streetfire.net/video/1A2B4095-6CBE-4CD2-A230-7A4FDEC68F6D.htm)

13lbs, 91octane, borrowed tires that were street driven for two months.

[Oldsman]

cool

[Daytona]

Very nice! Good numbers on their own but even better when you adjust them to Sea Level equivalent (track is at 2100' altitude):

ACTUAL ET: 13.557
ET ADJUSTED TO SEA LEVEL: 13.24

ACTUAL MPH: 105.54
MPH ADJ. TO SEA LEVEL: 108.23

[eag182]

damn, good job! cant believe you "sorta" beat the vette, but then again i didnt know vettes were that slow

[Spy]

My governor gets in the way at the end of the 1/4 mile..

[Oldsman]

get some slicks get close to the 12's

2.4>3.4

[SilverBullet256]

so ive finally decided to trade mine in for a 2.4 and just run a custom turbo, screw this damn 3400

[2fst4u]

sounds good!

[Spy]

Originally posted by Oldsman@Mar 28 2006, 10:32 PM
get some slicks get close to the 12's

2.4>3.4
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I did 24.5x8.5x15 mickey thompsons

it sucks the speed limiter is at 106, but the hptuner software should take care of any troubles i have.

[SilverBullet256]

wow haha, a guy on streetfire posted a comment saying the vette is far superior than the grand am and it isnt even painted right blah blah blah, o and he said the vette for the win, wtf, cocky ass people

[alerocar01]

i wish i could see the look on the guy's face driving the vette after he lost to a 4 banger pontiac. :lol:

[2fst4u]

what hptuner software are you talking about? you need to let us fellow 2.4 owners know about this stuff. asap!

[NoSweat83]

Very nice job. :thumb: For an American performance car I think the vette is the best bang for the buck. Spy if you dont mind me asking what do you think the price difference is between buying a new N-body (2.4) with your specific build vs. a new vette?

[BlackJack]

Originally posted by Oldsman@Mar 28 2006, 04:32 PM
get some slicks get close to the 12's
2.4>3.4
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I'd love to see him do it. I dont think he'd be able to until he gets rid of that governor though :)

[Oldsman]

Originally posted by 2fst4u@Mar 28 2006, 09:58 PM
what hptuner software are you talking about? you need to let us fellow 2.4 owners know about this stuff. asap!
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it isn't out for us yet but it has been in the making for what 2-3 years now.

[NoSweat83]

Originally posted by Oldsman+Mar 29 2006, 04:59 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Oldsman @ Mar 29 2006, 04:59 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-2fst4u@Mar 28 2006, 09:58 PM
what hptuner software are you talking about?Â;-) you need to let us fellow 2.4 owners know about this stuff.Â;-) asap!
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it isn't out for us yet but it has been in the making for what 2-3 years now.
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Still waiting :popcorn: :popcorn:

[2fst4u]

well, someone needs to light a fire under their butts. lol

[Spy]

HPTuner software,...... on order right now..

my car total build with three sets of wheels, two turbos, two teardowns, along with price of brand new car.. less than $23k US pricing...

I've been tweaking, breaking, trying, reminding, redoing, breaking somemore, having bad luc,, etc. on this car... if you want to repeat what i was doing straight from the start, you can do it for less than a saturn redline, or an SRT4, and have room to modify for handling the corners.

[jackal2000]

thats nice. im impressed. :biggrin:



i cant believe you made that much power at redline. my car (3400, so its a little dif i know) tops out power wise around 5200rpm.

[battistoni21]

wow that is the booommmmbbbbbb nice work dude keep it up

[jackal2000]

question, any issues with the tranny?

[ptrudel]

thats sweet !!!

you really helped make up my mind to get into the project next winter :D

[NoSweat83]

Again nice job Spy. Do you plan to try to get more out of her?

[Spy]

no tranny issues that i'm aware of. possibly another clutch upgrade is around the corner though.

yes more power. it's only 13lbs. when i really start tuning it'll be revving to 6500rpm, no governor, more than 13lbs, and definitely i'll have a larger than the stock throttle body i'm currently running

[Alero2k4]

What are you running compression wise ??? 9:1???

[2fst4u]

let me know when you get the hptuner software. i'm definately interested in a tune.

[Spy]

9.5:1

[Rubered00]

thats awesome man. i would love to get into doing that much work to my engine but i am too afraid of it becoming un-reliable.

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

update your sig! :thumb:

[Redog]

Sweet, did you have any problems hooking up?

[Spy]

Originally posted by Redog@Mar 30 2006, 03:11 PM
Sweet, did you have any problems hooking up?
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it's spin city USA. My 60fts of 2.1 were 2.1 for a reason, not enough traction.

[battistoni21]

thats sweet dude, keep up the work.... let us know when u get something else done

[Alero2k4]

That's pretty high compression to be running much more than 13 psi isn't it??? I guess with the HPTuners software you can retard some spark though...can't wait to see what you can do with a good tune on that!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[Spy]

Originally posted by Alero2k4@Mar 30 2006, 06:39 PM
That's pretty high compression to be running much more than 13 psi isn't it??? I guess with the HPTuners software you can retard some spark though...can't wait to see what you can do with a good tune on that!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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my timing is absolutely perfect. GMPP Supercharger reflash really does take care of any timing issues. I have almost no knock on this car. Biggest thing I can do, is just gap the plugs a lil tighter.

The compression isn't an issue honestly. I don't plan to run over 20lbs of boost on this car anyway.

Regarding the software from HPTuners, it's going to do two big things for me right off the bat.
1. rev limiter to 6600 so I can set the MSD's much more forgiving limiter at 6500rpm
2. Speed limiter from 106mph, will be negated and moved up to whatever sounds cool at the time.
3. any and all driveability quirks shall be dealt with and sacked by the managing partners of this car.
4. any and all traction control management shall be sacked
5. any and all fuel issues shall be addressed, and if need be sacked.

[BlackJack]

this is all so Monte Python. I love it :)

Have the people responsible for sacking the problems been sacked?

[b-spot]

Amazing numbers spy!!

Do you have an LSD??

[Spy]

Originally posted by b-spot@Apr 5 2006, 05:40 AM
Amazing numbers spy!!

Do you have an LSD??
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that i do not.....


........................
i've had nothing but an uphill battle in putting my car together. I've had naysayers evildoers and even the GM service department against me. You try to justify turbocharging a car when you have to go through 5 GM certified dealerships for a simple reflash. You try waiting 5 months from mantapart on a set of pistons that were in stock, only to have them short you on piston rings and have to wait two more weeks from that? How about having a place that does oilchanges help assist in killing the motor? Having to wait for time at the shop so that i can put my car on a lift? Or having my car sit in the garage for a months waiting for parts, just collecting dust and having parts from other cars put on top because i've been taking up space for so long?

props to b-spot :beerchug:

[BlackJack]

Oh yeah, one other thing. I respect what you did with your car Spy. Now quit crying over how long you had to wait for blah blah blah. I've been waiting for over a year now with this turbo build that I'm doing because I change my mind on stuff, decide to wait for info on new products coming out, etc. I have 95% of my system sitting right here on my workbench, and have been staring at it for over 3 months now. My doing, because I wanted full merged headers instead of logs.

Is it eating away at my very soul? Hell yes. Does it drive me completely f***ing insane? why yes, it does. Is it my fault? mostly it is, for choosing the route I am taking, and the way I am going about it.

[Spy]

Originally posted by BlackJack@Apr 5 2006, 11:01 AM
Oh yeah, one other thing.Â;-) I respect what you did with your car Spy.Â;-) Now quit crying over how long you had to wait for blah blah blah.Â;-) I've been waiting for over a year now with this turbo build that I'm doing because I change my mind on stuff, decide to wait for info on new products coming out, etc.Â;-) I have 95% of my system sitting right here on my workbench, and have been staring at it for over 3 months now.Â;-) My doing, because I wanted full merged headers instead of logs.

Is it eating away at my very soul?Â;-) Hell yes.Â;-) Does it drive me completely f***ing insane?Â;-) why yes, it does.Â;-) Is it my fault?Â;-) mostly it is, for choosing the route I am taking, and the way I am going about it.
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I wanted this ever since 2001... WINNER!!!!! :hide:

[SweetNLow]

blackjack u cant win an arguement with a grand am owner

[SilverBullet256]

Originally posted by BlackJack@Apr 5 2006, 06:01 AM
Oh yeah, one other thing.Â;-) I respect what you did with your car Spy.Â;-) Now quit crying over how long you had to wait for blah blah blah.Â;-) I've been waiting for over a year now with this turbo build that I'm doing because I change my mind on stuff, decide to wait for info on new products coming out, etc.Â;-) I have 95% of my system sitting right here on my workbench, and have been staring at it for over 3 months now.Â;-) My doing, because I wanted full merged headers instead of logs.

Is it eating away at my very soul?Â;-) Hell yes.Â;-) Does it drive me completely f***ing insane?Â;-) why yes, it does.Â;-) Is it my fault?Â;-) mostly it is, for choosing the route I am taking, and the way I am going about it.
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if anyone ever gives you crap, just throw them in your underhood wood chipper ;) :thumb:

[Spy]

Originally posted by SweetNLow+Apr 5 2006, 12:19 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SweetNLow @ Apr 5 2006, 12:19 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>blackjack u cant win an arguement with a grand am owner
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the secret's out, CRAP!

Originally posted by SilverBullet256@Apr 5 2006, 07:19 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-BlackJack@Apr 5 2006, 06:01 AM
Oh yeah, one other thing.Â;-) I respect what you did with your car Spy.Â;-) Now quit crying over how long you had to wait for blah blah blah.Â;-) I've been waiting for over a year now with this turbo build that I'm doing because I change my mind on stuff, decide to wait for info on new products coming out, etc.Â;-) I have 95% of my system sitting right here on my workbench, and have been staring at it for over 3 months now.Â;-) My doing, because I wanted full merged headers instead of logs.

Is it eating away at my very soul?Â;-) Hell yes.Â;-) Does it drive me completely f***ing insane?Â;-) why yes, it does.Â;-) Is it my fault?Â;-) mostly it is, for choosing the route I am taking, and the way I am going about it.
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if anyone ever gives you crap, just throw them in your underhood wood chipper ;) :thumb:
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also known as the small animal and homeless man annhiliator

[BlackJack]

heh....that's funny!

Nah, wasn't trying to be an ass, Spy, and thanks for not taking it that way. I'm just so pissed about my own shiz that I get irked when people say what a hard time they're having.

Can't wait to see you break into the 12's man!

[BlackJack]

Originally posted by SweetNLow@Apr 5 2006, 06:19 AM
blackjack u cant win an arguement with a grand am owner

Don't need to win the argument, I just gotta finish my build so I can win the race :)

[ptrudel]

Spy, again, thats sweet what you're doin...you and Spilner kinda helped make up my mind for tryin this also...collecting parts as we speak, and i'll do the install next winter...i'm only wishing it turns out as good as yours did, cuz that's amazing!

[battistoni21]

spy your 4 cyl is much better than "corvette cool", just thought id add my two centsh

[alerored04]

spy, beautiful numbers man, i wish i had the time, money, and knowledge to build something that sexy. The best way to get rid of the stupid people is to ignore them, maybe they will see that their terribly stupid and uneducated opinions are not needed or wanted and they will go away. some people just cant realize that when you do something like this to a car many peripheral parts that could stay stock get replaced to maintain drivability and reliability, it is that fact that separates people like spy from your definition of ricers, since he has replaced many more parts than needed, he could have just stuck the turbo and intercooler on it and ran it into the ground, but he built it to last, insulting a man's car like that, especially one that he has invested hundreds or thousands of hours into is worse than slapping him in front of his wife, mistress, and children. That is just plain bs and if you cant understand the insult that you have given him i think its time for you to leave...again. sorry for the rant, i just cant stand it when someones hard work gets put down. once again beautiful work man, cant wait to see what it will do with good traction.

[Spy]

Originally posted by alerored04@Apr 6 2006, 06:19 PM
spy, beautiful numbers man, i wish i had the time, money, and knowledge to build something that sexy. The best way to get rid of the stupid people is to ignore them, maybe they will see that their terribly stupid and uneducated opinions are not needed or wanted and they will go away. some people just cant realize that when you do something like this to a car many peripheral parts that could stay stock get replaced to maintain drivability and reliability, it is that fact that separates people like spy from your definition of ricers, since he has replaced many more parts than needed, he could have just stuck the turbo and intercooler on it and ran it into the ground, but he built it to last, insulting a man's car like that, especially one that he has invested hundreds or thousands of hours into is worse than slapping him in front of his wife, mistress, and children. That is just plain bs and if you cant understand the insult that you have given him i think its time for you to leave...again. sorry for the rant, i just cant stand it when someones hard work gets put down. once again beautiful work man, cant wait to see what it will do with good traction.
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you're my hero.... *swooooon* :alcoholic: :beerchug:

[BlackJack]

Originally posted by battistoni21@Apr 6 2006, 09:18 AM
spy your 4 cyl is much better than "corvette cool", just thought id add my two centsh

^needs to quit drinking when he posts...hahahah.....damn, I guess I better quit posting too :blush:

[alerored04]

spy im here to please, glad i could make ya happy, save any of that booze for me? oh i found it!! :alcoholic:

[BlackJack]

did I read something about her not having been here for awhile because of crap like this? heh....guess it's groundhog day.

anyway....bs-pot, the 1000hp ecotec you're referring to (gm's factory sponsored cavy?) is actually a 2.2 sleeved DOWN to a 2.0. If that's not the one you were talking about, then disregard.

[Spy]

instead of deleting, how about a mod just prune the thread so it makes sense again and is on topic?

[derek_ski99]

awesome job spy...


i'd still take a vette over our cars anyday but its awesome what you've been able to accomplish! good work

[Fast Eddie]

Originally posted by Spy@Apr 7 2006, 05:11 PM
instead of deleting, how about a mod just prune the thread so it makes sense again and is on topic?
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The only mod that comes into the performance sections seems to be Scot :lol: . So good luck.

[Daytona]

Originally posted by Spy@Apr 7 2006, 06:11 PM
instead of deleting, how about a mod just prune the thread so it makes sense again and is on topic?
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Consider it done.

:cool: