How Do I Make A Fiberglass Bumper?

[Eh_nigma]

As it says, How would I make a Fiberglass Bumper for the 'ho? And what would I need?

[BlackJack]

I PM'ed you with the idea I'm rolling with for a race front-end and I'm happy to share it with ya. Included in the PM are the two additional materials you'd need.

[SweetNLow]

if u have to ask u dont have the skill or or knowledge needed to sucessfully glass anything.

[SouthDakotAlero]

Originally posted by SweetNLow@Apr 8 2006, 06:48 AM
if u have to ask u dont have the skill or or knowledge needed to sucessfully glass anything.
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Not true....you have to learn sometime. I had no experience at all painting with a spray gun and with a little advice I taught myself pretty well.

[Eh_nigma]

Originally posted by SweetNLow@Apr 8 2006, 01:48 AM
if u have to ask u dont have the skill or or knowledge needed to sucessfully glass anything.
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:glare: That attitude is exactly why I'm pushing so hard for this project to be done the way it is, and through the best and worst, it's still going. We all come out of the womb knowing nothing about anything, and we need to learn sometime. To those who along the way have said "No you can't", it's just the motivation that sometimes helps to do it, and get it done the way I wanted it to be done.

I've glassed, though minor parts. The idea behind the post was not to ask "How should I avoid doing it", but more of "Anyone out there have any suggestions on how to?"

[eag182]

2 words...chopper gun

[2fst4u]

i'd say buy the aas kit, and then glass it in completely. that would be a lot easier, and then you could make it look like a stock car.

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by Eh_nigma+Apr 8 2006, 02:23 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Eh_nigma @ Apr 8 2006, 02:23 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-SweetNLow@Apr 8 2006, 01:48 AM
if u have to ask u dont have the skill or or knowledge needed to sucessfully glass anything.
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:glare: That attitude is exactly why I'm pushing so hard for this project to be done the way it is, and through the best and worst, it's still going. We all come out of the womb knowing nothing about anything, and we need to learn sometime. To those who along the way have said "No you can't", it's just the motivation that sometimes helps to do it, and get it done the way I wanted it to be done.

I've glassed, though minor parts. The idea behind the post was not to ask "How should I avoid doing it", but more of "Anyone out there have any suggestions on how to?"
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he's right, you'll probably end up spending what u were quoted from other places in materials from all the screw ups. not to mention how much time youll have spent.

[cherrington17]

^ but nothing beats a job well done, by hand. regardless of hours spent and # of redo's....

[Eh_nigma]

I'm eventually going to need to learn how to do it. I'd rather start on my car than someone elses too. Maybe I'm thick headed, but I've started to do a bit of research... granted I wont have a chance to do this until either July (before tour), or when I get back from tour. Soon though.

[SweetNLow]

my point is....... its not just something u can do and be good at. takes lots of experience befor get really really good at it. and i dont think u want it to look like crap do u.

just my opinion. if u wanna see a crappy begginer fiberglass job look here http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?sho...ndpost&p=273516 (http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=17580&view=findpost&p=273516)

[Chucklez05]

I don't know if you put up the wrong pics or what cuz it goes to mid way down the page but thats silents project and he is not a beginner in fiberglass, I am just going from the advice he has given me and from what else i have seen/heard on this form and as for being a crappy job from what i have seen nothing of his is crappy and that bumper may look rough right now but look at the bondo on it, its suposed to look rough till its sanded you cant even see what the fiberglass looked like before that was put on it.

I'm just saying dont put ppl down who want to learn fiberglass work and don't say that they are gonna mess it up and make it look like crap.

Enigma, my advise is to get the suplies, go off of the advice of some of the other more experianced members and have at it, ull mess up a couple time but you will definatly learn alot and in my opnion nothing beats the feeling of getting it done yourself, regardless of the number of mess ups.

Ive done some fiberglass work all of which i just got the supplies and started and learned along the way. Some looked like crap others didn't and i get better with time. Just don't let some remarks saying itll look like crap get you down or descurage you.

[wrightie]

dood dont listen to some of these tools. I had never done anything with fiberglass ever. I just got some materials and went to it. Sure I wasnt to hot to begin with, but I got better. I am certainly not going to say I am close to an expert, but it feels pretty damn good when you have done it your self. i say go for it dood. thats how ya learn. certainly not gonna learn from this supportive bunch :Noooo: . Any questions I might be able to help ya with Pm me.

[Rubered00]

Originally posted by 2fst4u@Apr 8 2006, 08:39 AM
i'd say buy the aas kit, and then glass it in completely. that would be a lot easier, and then you could make it look like a stock car.
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As i picture this in my head it kinda sounds like a good idea to me. But i know nothing about fiberglassing so i could be completly wrong... it just seems that it has the basic shape of a nascar bumper if it was solid.

[turtles_ride]

i was thinking of doing this myself as well. Just need to find the time. Anyways one suggestion that was made to me, that i'd recommend, is getting a set of bumpers from another alero to start with. That way your not damaging your originals if things go really bad.

[SweetNLow]

Originally posted by wrightie@Apr 8 2006, 04:43 PM
dood dont listen to some of these tools. I had never done anything with fiberglass ever. I just got some materials and went to it. Sure I wasnt to hot to begin with, but I got better. I am certainly not going to say I am close to an expert, but it feels pretty damn good when you have done it your self. i say go for it dood. thats how ya learn. certainly not gonna learn from this supportive bunch :Noooo: . Any questions I might be able to help ya with Pm me.
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i dont think we are being "tools" about this. hes talkin bout creating fiberglassed bumpers.... thats not alittle small project to start to learn on. im all for him doing it to but if your gonna attempt something like that you should start with something smaller and work your way up. one other note no1 mentioned is that he will be glassing onto his stock bumpers which are plastic....... and last i check glass dont stick to plastic to well..... its just all gonna crack up

[2fst4u]

i agree with sweet, the stock bumpers is not the way to go. def. go with a aas front. you'll be very happy with the results if you go that direction. its always easier to glass on top of glass, metal, or wood

[SweetNLow]

Originally posted by Chucklez05@Apr 8 2006, 04:26 PM
I don't know if you put up the wrong pics or what cuz it goes to mid way down the page but thats silents project and he is not a beginner in fiberglass, I am just going from the advice he has given me and from what else i have seen/heard on this form and as for being a crappy job from what i have seen nothing of his is crappy and that bumper may look rough right now but look at the bondo on it, its suposed to look rough till its sanded you cant even see what the fiberglass looked like before that was put on it.

I'm just saying dont put ppl down who want to learn fiberglass work and don't say that they are gonna mess it up and make it look like crap.

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do u know silents resume? are u his secretary? silents back seat enclousure looks sweet but he didnt glass that he had someone else glass it. and the osv kit he's creating..... i wish him the best but i dont think it looks very much like the osv kit as well. hes a beginner fiberglasser as well tackling a big project.

enigma is trying to recreate the look of a stock car....... and thats gonna take alot of work. and i guarentee u since he stated he doenst have any experience with glass its prolly not gonna turn out the way he wants it to and it will end up costing him more in the end. to get it to look right. if it was alittle interior glass project id say to go for it. but something like glassing bumpers i woudlnt tackle that if i have no prior experience. no1 is being negative to him we are giving opinions which he asked for.

[Eh_nigma]

I do have glassing experience - read - I said I didn't have experience doing the bumper. It's not a question of "how do I glass" it's a question of what do I need to know to specifically do the bumper. I was wondering with things like mount points for the bumper, area's that are exposed to a lot of pressure (Ie., from the air going at highway speeds), and ways of preventing stress fractures. Perhaps I should have been more specific.

Without question there needs to be taken more into account when doing a bumper, than doing something for a center console or around a sub box. More than frenching in amps and crossovers... I've glassed parts for both my vehicle and two seperate vehicles, as well as for aircraft when I worked at the airfield. But the bumper of a daily driver seems to me to sit in a different catagory from all of these.

I just want to know what one needs to know when doing this specifically.

[SweetNLow]

well ya u shouldve been abit more specific. since u do have the experience i say go for it. but as i said befor u cant glass onto a plastic bumper....... so if your gonna do it yourself get teh aas bumper and start with that since thats glass to begin with

[Silentalero]

side note, i did glass my back seats, i just had my friend help me with materials from his shop. And if your gonna mold off a astock bumper you can but you need to cover the entire bumper over in fiberglass so it takes a hard shape. The only reason it would crack is if the urithane flexed and it stressed the fiberglass. Thats why im covering the entire bumper in fiberglass to make the mold, but if you do that make sure you do it while its on the car so it fits right.