Lanzar Subs..

[FartCannonAlero]

So i basically love my bass..if it aint loud, i dont like it... my friend was tellin me about these Lanzar subs... 12'' HRWDC12 .. im thinking about getting 2 of them with a 4000w MXA282 amp...he said that they are really nice..id be getting a separate battery for these and then i was gonna try to build a custom deal to make everything look good...any ideas or thoughts?? if you know of any other subs that are really loud, and mildly affordable please list! NOT Kicker..dont like them...they hit hard but have absolutely no flow, friend had a 15'' l7 in his jeep and it sounded like ass..

i used to have 2 12'' sony xplods in a bandpass box,..ebay special..well they sucked to tell ya the truth..lol

Sub
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=13739 (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=13739)

Amp
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Pr...ProductID=16448 (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=16448)

[ImSoBored]

TXX-AP15RD (http://www.audiopipe.com/AudioPipeCatalogOne.asp?Picture=AP-26.jpg)

My friend had 4 of these in his jimmy. They were loud as fock. 4-2000watt amps. They 15s tho

TXX-SPL12 (http://www.audiopipe.com/AudioPipeCatalogOne.asp?Picture=AP-24.jpg)

if your lookin at 12's this may be closer to the lanzar subs than the other

[pimpalero2003]

say what u want about audiopipes i bought a set for like 50 bucks just to stick in my car for like a month they stayed in there for 6 the bang pretty damn hard

[pimpalero2003]

here is some more 12 inch subs price is decent
http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/2223
http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/3107
http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/3598
subs ur looking at cheaper http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/3629
these are what i have right now and OMG do they bang http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/1706

[sound_xtreme]

lanzar blow

[jamcllw]

Originally posted by sound_xtreme@Jun 10 2006, 02:38 PM
lanzar blow
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x2

[number1alero]

just like with anything else...you pay for what you get...im running a set of Kicker CompVRs that are probably 5 years old and pound like they are brand new...but thats because Kicker makes a good quality sub that is very reliable

[violentrapture]

Sooo many better options - RE, eD, Treo, IA, MD, AA, Mpyre, DD (<- if you're an SPL nut, look no further), ID, OZ, etc.

Look beyond the Tweeter/Circuit City/Best Buy, CarToys crap and you'll find a world of fine products.

~vR

[acold7dusta]

x2 ^^

[FartCannonAlero]

thanks for the feedback guys..and the ikesound site with cheaper prices!

violent i dont think i know any of those abbrev. names..whats DD?

i was also looking at 2 mtx 9500 series subs too...

[violentrapture]

RE: Resonant Engineering, http://www.reaudio.com (used to run one of their SEXXX subs)
eD: Elemental Designs, http://www.elementadesigns.com (http://www.elementaldesigns.com) (used to run one of their 16ov.2 subs)
Treo: Treo Engineering: http://www.treoonline.com (I run their SSi subs currently)
IA: Incriminator Audio, http://www.incriminatoraudio.com (their 20.1 amp is a *beast*)
MD: Mass Destruction, http://www.mdcaraudio.com
AA: Ascendent Audio, http://www.ascendentaudio.com (http://www.ascendantaudio.com) (heard a Havoc locally - f***ing loud)
DD: Digital Designs, http://www.ddaudio.com (9500 series = o.m.g.)
ID: Image Dynamics, http://www.imagedynamicsusa.com (IDMAX is an amazing SQL sub)
OZ: OZ Audio, http://www.ozaudio.com (forget the SPL sub of theirs)

Cheers,
~vR

[coldfusion01]

Originally posted by Burns02Alero@Jun 11 2006, 10:52 PM
thanks for the feedback guys..and the ikesound site with cheaper prices!

violent i dont think i know any of those abbrev. names..whats DD?

i was also looking at 2 mtx 9500 series subs too...
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I just put 2 MTX 7500 Dual 4ohm 12" ers in my trunk... they sound damn nice too and kick pretty hard. Heh, I couldn't imagine how there top of the line subs perform... So I'd probaly say try those MTX on for size, not the stuff u would find at ur local walmart either, like rapture said (:

[nickgonzo]

I'd buy lanzar before I would buy Audiobaun

[violentrapture]

^^ word

[FartCannonAlero]

yeah but lanzars been making alot of better stuff lately..

i see alot about the subs...what about amp preference?

yes that 20.1 amp is a beast...for 1000 bucks..lol if i was spending that much id get the hifonics Maxximus

http://www.maxxsonics.com/hifonics/amps_maxxgol.html

[violentrapture]

Originally posted by Burns02Alero@Jun 12 2006, 08:43 AM
yeah but lanzars been making alot of better stuff lately..

i see alot about the subs...what about amp preference?

yes that 20.1 amp is a beast...for 1000 bucks..lol if i was spending that much id get the hifonics Maxximus

http://www.maxxsonics.com/hifonics/amps_maxxgol.html
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The Lanzar Opti-Drive amps are good amps.

You'd get the Maxximus because it matches the power rating at the impedence of your woofers... wait, you haven't chosen woofers yet. Research this stuff :P ... and the Maxximus goes for about $4k, not $1k.

The 20.1 can be run at .25 daily (try that with a Maxximus) - 4 strapped 20.1s > Maxximus.

I just replaced all my amps with Soundstream and I couldn't be happier - excellent products.
There are really too many good manufacturers to list.

~vR

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by nickgonzo@Jun 11 2006, 11:47 PM
I'd buy lanzar before I would buy Audiobaun
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i wouldnt. i sold both. audiobahn has a bad rep cause all their low end poop. buy something worth a damn and u might sing a different tune.

[violentrapture]

Which of the non-low-end poop is worth a damn? I've heard the flame Q, Immortal, Alum and Eternal - sure they got loud, but a bunch of Pyles in a wall can do that. The Alums (4 12s in a Suburban), which I read are supposed to sound good, didn't even come close to an entry level SQL woofer.

~vR

[FartCannonAlero]

Originally posted by violentrapture@Jun 12 2006, 10:03 AM
yes that 20.1 amp is a beast...for 1000 bucks..lol if i was spending that much id get the hifonics Maxximus


You'd get the Maxximus because it matches the power rating at the impedence of your woofers... wait, you haven't chosen woofers yet.Â;-) Research this stuff :P ... and the Maxximus goes for about $4k, not $1k.

The 20.1 can be run at .25 daily (try that with a Maxximus) - 4 strapped 20.1s > Maxximus.

I just replaced all my amps with Soundstream and I couldn't be happier - excellent products.
There are really too many good manufacturers to list.

~vR
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what i meant there was spending so much, im only gonna spend maybe 250 on a amp not 1-5000

and yeah i agree audiobahn isnt that great..they have a couple nice subs but nothing i like, i used to have 1 12'' and i had it for maybe 2 weeks before i sold it off for 80 bucks with a p.o.s 500w RF amp

[sound_xtreme]

im not and never was into SQ. i was strictly SPL. and if the people had half a brain and made their own box with their own specs it woulda been loud. and thas all i care(d) about.

i had 4 of the flame q 08s(the higher flame q's) and was extremely loud. and for the price i paid on em, i couldnt beat it.
i actually got them below book price, below the price u paid for em i think. and their older poop was even better. the old 1*08X's....mmmm, those were badass subs.

[nickgonzo]

Originally posted by sound_xtreme+Jun 12 2006, 09:28 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sound_xtreme @ Jun 12 2006, 09:28 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-nickgonzo@Jun 11 2006, 11:47 PM
I'd buy lanzar before I would buy Audiobaun
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i wouldnt. i sold both. audiobahn has a bad rep cause all their low end poop. buy something worth a damn and u might sing a different tune.
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:emotlol:

Trust me good sir, I have owned some car audio gear that is surely worth more than a damn.

Audiobahn has good marketing ploys, and not much else. Every single audiobahn install I have heard sounded like utter doodoo. Audiobahn has that Rockford bass.. the kind of bass teenagers want to hear. Chrome flames may have been cool when I was in highschool.. wait.. they were never cool. How lame is it to buy an amp or sub on looks alone.

Lanzar makes fine products, but they do have their junk as does most companies. At one point I was seriously considering those opti amps vR was talking about.

So like I said before, I would buy Lanzar before Audiobahn.

[pimpalero2003]

i like some audiobauhn stuff i love MA Audio the thing i dont like about audiobauhn is there stuff runs so damn hot

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by nickgonzo+Jun 12 2006, 02:18 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(nickgonzo @ Jun 12 2006, 02:18 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by sound_xtreme@Jun 12 2006, 09:28 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-nickgonzo@Jun 11 2006, 11:47 PM
I'd buy lanzar before I would buy Audiobaun
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i wouldnt. i sold both. audiobahn has a bad rep cause all their low end poop. buy something worth a damn and u might sing a different tune.
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Trust me good sir, I have owned some car audio gear that is surely worth more than a damn.
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[/b][/quote]

*sighs* i meant in the audiobahn line. if you know wtf ur doin, it can be good stuff. had 2 quad voice coil 12s in a tbird hittin high 150s before it got stole.

[FartCannonAlero]

glad me askin for suggestions resulted in a arguement over audiobahn and lanzar...umm yeah..

[halfJ99]

i got a set of diamonds and couldnt be happier (unless i got a higher model diamond), high end, entry level...all are great products

[FartCannonAlero]

so is audiopipe just a branch off of audiobahn?

[pimpalero2003]

so is audiopipe just a branch off of audiobahn?
i dont believe so but alphasonic and visonic is

and diamond audio rock

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by pimpalero2003@Jun 13 2006, 01:03 PM
so is audiopipe just a branch off of audiobahn?
i dont believe so but alphasonic and visonic is

and diamond audio rock
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alphasonik, swiss audio, DUB, xsite, and ichibahn are all "owned" by audiobahn. audiopipe is not affiliated with audiobahn.

Visonik is NOT owned by audiobahn. Visonik is a sister brand of MA Audio. they are so similar in fact, that less than a couple years ago their websites were identical, just different colors and products.

[jwth2005]

Just adding to this.... Visoniks blow... atleast the ones i had.... POOP My single Interfire is just as loud as both of the visoniks i had with the same amp and sound much cleaner...

[FartCannonAlero]

alright...hmmm im debatin on the 2 lanzars or the 2 audiopipes....do you think that they will be about the same as in loudness and sq?

[pimpalero2003]

i have had audiopipes and they were loud as f**k i had the 800 maxx ones and i was pushing around 1100 to each

[FartCannonAlero]

alright, now my last question is, where can i get prices for these audiopipes? i went to their site forums and basically i see nothing useful customer service wise...and ikesound.com doesnt have them on there either.. id be getting 2 of the TXX-AP15BL's most likely...i ebay'd them and didnt find anything..

[nickgonzo]

Originally posted by Burns02Alero@Jun 14 2006, 09:19 AM
alright...hmmm im debatin on the 2 lanzars or the 2 audiopipes....do you think that they will be about the same as in loudness and sq?
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What kind of bass are you looking for? Pure SPL?

[FartCannonAlero]

yeah..i want loudness..hear me coming from a ways away type of thing...i cant afford nothing too great like a solo-x or top of the line stuff..

[FartCannonAlero]

sorry for the double post...

i havent heard either of the subs in person...ive just been told that they are both really nice..

i goto www.realmofexcursion.com and they have vids of people with them and they sound pretty sweet

[pimpalero2003]

i know a palce i can get them in town shipping might be a female dog though

[FartCannonAlero]

where are you at?

if they both perform close to the same, im gonna go with the lanzars cause they are cheaper..but if the audiopipes have more to them im willing to pay the extra 10 bucks per sub...

[pimpalero2003]

id say go ahead and pay the extra 10 bucks but thats me and i live in Evansville IN

[FartCannonAlero]

it would be great if you could maybe find out a roundabout price for the TWO 15'' TXX-AP15BL subs...and possibly getting shipped to 49460

[nickgonzo]

Whats your budget and how much space you willing to use?

[FartCannonAlero]

i can use the whole trunk of my alero...i dont ever haul anything

was hoping to spend no more than 500-600 bucks but i can work around getting some extra bucks

[pimpalero2003]

well hey the shop is closed today ill hit it up 2maro

[pimpalero2003]

well heres a link for the subs you can buy them from this store http://www.carbudgetaudio.com/APIPETXXAP15BL.html

[pimpalero2003]

some more subs
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-POWER-ACOUSTIK-FUBR-...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/2-POWER-ACOUSTIK-FUBR-15-4000w-DVC-CAR-SUBWOOFERS-SUBS_W0QQitemZ9737912903QQcategoryZ18804QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem)
this is a pretty good deal http://cgi.ebay.com/2-15-polkaudio-momo-su...bayphotohosting (http://cgi.ebay.com/2-15-polkaudio-momo-subs-MM2154DVC-2-mtx-ta3401-amps_W0QQitemZ9739659350QQcategoryZ64573QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem#ebayphotohosting)
http://cgi.ebay.com/POWER-ACOUSTIK-15-SUBW...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/POWER-ACOUSTIK-15-SUBWOOFER-SUB-WOOFER-MOFO-15-2600W_W0QQitemZ9740954050QQcategoryZ18804QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem)
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-PAIR-06-S15L5-15-K...1QQcmdZViewItem (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-PAIR-06-S15L5-15-KICKER-SOLO-1500-WATT-2-OHM-DVC_W0QQitemZ9740306032QQihZ008QQcategoryZ58035QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[jamcllw]

You should try looking for some Memphis Audio subs. They have low power ratings and they are loud as hell and they sound pretty good. You can buy them online at woofersetc.com but you probably won't get the factory warranty. Check out ikesound for some refurbed amps for cheap.

[FartCannonAlero]

alright...ill check into them...thanks

[Stanl3yX]

when i first started looking for a system i came across lanzar because of the unbelieveable price vs its wattage rms. a local audio head told me to instead look into the Alphasonik brand. which carries the same punch and relatively the same price. check them out at these two sites

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/alphasonik-car-audio.html

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Ma...ufacturerID=659 (http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/Manufacturer.aspx?ManufacturerID=659)

i got a couple deals off of ebay. got the PMA2300A amp, their 5 farad cap and also their 4x6 speakers for the alero. i am not at all dissatisfied. my friend got the 800 series 12 inch sub and it is a MONSTER. he only paid 150 for it, pushes out 900 watts rms. so go ahead and price compare, read the reviews, and good luck....

[FartCannonAlero]

ok well i went with what one of my friends suggested to me and got 2 12'' Optidrive 1232 and i got the MXA282 amp all lanzar...ill have a vid and pics up when i get them and installed!

[FartCannonAlero]

pics................

[FartCannonAlero]

ok i screwed something up so im gonna try this again..

[FartCannonAlero]

hot damn, there we go

[FartCannonAlero]

heres a vid of the subs working...tell me what you think..

http://www.realmofexcursion.com/videos.html

goto Lanzar on the left and then its the 2nd to last one... Burnsizzle

[Gr1m]

lol personally i keep quality in mind, i have been through 3 systems in the last couple of months, i just recently replaced the stock speakers with kenwood excelons with a 4 channel 1000w amp and they are loud as hell. i have just recently sold my MTX system and bought 2 of the orion H2's 12'' right now they are hooked up to two precision power 2000w mono amps, but im only pushing 275w a side because i need to get another deep cycle battery for my car or i will just blow my altenator. lanzars equipment hits really hard from what ive seen but most of the lanzar systems ive seen are so distorted at loud volume. depends on what you want, my system is going to be real loud once i get the second battery but its also going to be very clear at high volume, if your looking for extreme bass at the cost of quality then go with the lanzars

[14alero]

I have 2 audio pipe 15' s in my car

[sound_xtreme]

you should try firing them forward

[FartCannonAlero]

as in so they are facing the front of the car rather than the back?

i thought about it to see a difference..

and there isnt any distortion at all at high volumes..if you know how to tune everything up you wont have that problem..i also got memphis audio 5.25's put in the front..now im working on getting an amp to run the 4 speakers..

[FartCannonAlero]

well, i was gonna try to face them forward, but i ran into some trouble..the wires are stretched to the fullest, so if i were to turn the box around id have to get extensions on the wires, so im just gonna leave it..

also i was told that im only running about 700w to each sub..which is pretty shitty since they rms at 1100w so im thinking about getting either the hifonics collosus(sp) or 2 2000w amps..not exactly sure yet, but id like to run these to there capabilities =/

[acold7dusta]

so one person tells you that you arent running at ur 2200 RMS, and at 1400 RMS, and you want 4000 RMS now...haha i doubt those subs will last 15 seconds. and how shitty is ur setup that 1400 RMS isnt enough? seriously even one 1000 RMS amp can do some serious damage

edit: read some of your other posts, and your one of the "peak power" guys, which is absolutely worthless. go by RMS ratings, and completely ignore peak power ratings. as a general rule, if they give you a peak power rating, its prolly crap, or generally inexpensive. just an FYI

[FartCannonAlero]

i think you might be mistaking something...

each sub rms's at 1100w..and peaks at 2200w so it would be 2200w rms for both and 4400w max for both

right now im running about 700w to each so thats 1400w for both..i still have 800w til i hit rms and thats what im looking for..if not more