Finally got to the track

[flalero]

Well, I finally was able to run my car last Friday night. I went up to a little 1/8 mile track in Dothan, AL. I ran a best of 9.77. I was quite impressed, I was expecting to be in the low tens. I went up there with a friend that has a stock GLS and he ran a best of 10.44. It was a good comparison between a stocker and a non-stocker. I was just wondering if there might be anybody out there that might have an idea to what this would translate to in the 1/4.

[Final-Reality]

Its hard to say what that would mean in the 1/4, as would it for any car, because cars vary greatly in how well they launch, their aerodynamics and horsepower, so it can vary quite a bit...

Your car isnt stock? What mods do you have?

[Daytona]

A very rough gauge would be 10.00 = 16.00 seconds. Final is right in that the actual 1/4-mile ET would vary greatly on the track, weather, your launch, shift points, and how your car is set up.

What was your 60' time and 1/8-mile mph?

[Voodosoup]

The summer at Gap I my best run was a 15.733 1/4 @ 86.2mph

60ft- 2.334
1/8 - 10.1 @ 68.71

This was with CAI, SLP exhaust and an ASE chip.
On a very hot and humid day.

What all do you have done?

I ask because I have a slip from gap where I ran against a Grand Am that turned
a 15.164 1/4 @ 89.6mph, and the 1/8 time was 9.748 @ 74.03, 60ft was 2.345

If you're doing that with rougly the same mods that I have, I'm impressed......

Care to post the slip?

[flalero]

Sorry I don't have a scanner right now to post the slip...I'll get it up as soon as I can, but here are the times from my two best runs...

reaction-.964
60ft-2.219
330ft-6.333
594ft-9.139
1/8 et-9.766
1/8 mph-71.86

reaction-.921
60ft-2.226
330ft-6.354
594ft-9.176
1/8et-9.792
1/8mph-73.07

Like I said, I was kind of shocked at the times. Just remember, I'm at sea level, even up in AL, and it was about 55 degrees outside. Plus the track was very sticky I had no tire spin at all when I launched. As for mods, CAI, Removed cat and resonator, custom exhaust, Jet Power Control Unit, and Auto Trans Interceptor. I also think that having the car lowered aids in my launches.

How do you like the ASE chip? I was thinking of scrapping the Jet unit and buying an actual chip. I need to change my shift points and fuel curve.

[Voodosoup]

I think the launch is super critical. At gap most everyone was spinning bug time off the line.

I don't have any complaints with the ASE at all. I'll be getting into the territory soon where I might have to pull it out and put my stock cojmputer back in. I'll have to wait and see what happens when the TB and ported upper go on.

You should try a run without the JET module on if you can. Everything I've heard from those who had owned one for the GA or Alero is that they don't do anything.
Can you tell any difference with and without it?

Hopefully we can get a group together (5 cars) and go to DHP in Detroit or Chicago to get some custom tuning done. That doesn't help you much, living as far south as you do.

[Alerosince99]

Hopefully we can get a group together (5 cars) and go to DHP in Detroit or Chicago to get some custom tuning done. That doesn't help you much, living as far south as you do.


If you got a group together I would certainly be willing to make the drive for a custom tune. ;) :D

[flalero]

Yeah, I'll try running without the Jet next time, but it does seem to push me about two more bars into the rich side on my AF meter.

[fiestyalerogirl81]

MY ALERo has not been able to visit the track yet. boohooo. Well thats ok the highway is my race trak.

[alerov6]

pretty decent times nonetheless

[flalero]

Originally posted by fiestyalerogirl81@Nov 20 2003, 09:03 PM
MY ALERo has not been able to visit the track yet. boohooo. Well thats ok the highway is my race trak.
Be careful racing on the roads. I've seen too many awful wrecks, cars getting impounded, and people getting arrested when I used to steet race. I'm trying to get away from that and stick to legal racing.

[Silverknight]

I pulled a 15.72at 89 mph ....how did that grand am pull a 15.1?? I wanna know...prolly traction, but I hooked pretty well too.....any ideas?

[Alerosince99]

There are grand ams that are running 14.85-15.1 N/A. The ones that are doing that have H/I/E and port work to their UIM, LIM, Heads and a larger TB for the most part.

[Final-Reality]

Originally posted by Alerosince99@Nov 24 2003, 08:05 PM
There are grand ams that are running 14.85-15.1 N/A. The ones that are doing that have H/I/E and port work to their UIM, LIM, Heads and a larger TB for the most part.
poopty... that's a lot of $$ for about 1 to 1/2 of a second 1/4mi increase...

[Voodosoup]

The 2 supercharged GA's that Pontiac brought to GAP were only running 14.8's and into the 15's when they let everyone drive them.

15.1, I think that race I was up against sorry officer from GAGT who has major headwork done among other things. I took him off the line, the all I could do was watch as he caught me fast and pulled away!

I think spaz's fastest Supercharged non-nitrous run was 14.6, his fastest with the juice was 13.81.

[Alerosince99]

I think alot of times will change come spring seems like there are quite a few people working on interesting projects. Personally myself Id like to get in the 14s na but who knows only time will tell. ;)

[flalero]

With knowing that these GA's were running those times with all of those mods. How is it possible that I pulled similar times with no internal mods at all? Any theory would be great to hear.

[Alerosince99]

Its hard to say without any mods you wont be running low 15s in the 1/4 unless you have a serious factory freak. Get a full 1/4 time then compare.

[Voodosoup]

Plus you have to factor in weather, heat humidity, wind, elavation.
Track conditions - track conditions at GAP were piss poor. How much extra/less weight you had compared to stock.

[flalero]

You can factor in my subs (two 12's), and my amp. I don't have any of my factory exhaust except for my headers. This probably got rid of some weight, but that was instantly canceled out by the speakers. I'll try to get to a 1/4 mile track, but I have to go to Jacksonville or Atlanta to find one. Everything around here is 1/8 mile.

[Alerosince99]

I can sympathize. There isnt anything particularly close to me either.

Im keeping my fingers crossed though cause there are couple guys trying to bringback the minnesota dragstrip. They just need find an appropriate location. Which will be nice if they do it. State of the art and within an hour of downtown. :)

[AleroHawk]

I'm from Jax...where is a 1/4 mile track here? The only track I know is Jax Raceway (dirt track, asphalt track, 1/8 mile). :huh:

[Silverknight]

I still wanna know how that car pulled a 15.1 with almost the SAME MPH as my 15.7 run in my completely STOCK Alero

[flalero]

Originally posted by AleroHawk@Nov 26 2003, 11:43 PM
I'm from Jax...where is a 1/4 mile track here? The only track I know is Jax Raceway (dirt track, asphalt track, 1/8 mile). :huh:
I was told by a couple of guys that I race with that there was 1/4 mile track in Jacksonville, they could be wrong, though. Hey since we're talking about FL, how about trying to get something together with some other members here in FL. I would love to meet some people from this sight and see their cars.

[AleroHawk]

Yeah, I've been thinking about doing that too, but all of the FL people on here are spread out like crazy (drawback of being such a long state). Any FL people got a nextel? Could plan out a meeting place one day.

[jabartram]

I'm considering having my ecu programmed by vette's unlimited in corpus chyristi texas! does anybody know the best performance settings, (fuel curve, timing, auto trans settings) or where I can get them, to compare to what he is gonna do to mine? I'm very finicky about my car! and I'll most likely have to reset it for the super or turbo charger! the custom exhaust you did? did you fit 2 pipes under the car?

[Molson]

Originally posted by Silverknight@Dec 1 2003, 02:46 PM
I still wanna know how that car pulled a 15.1 with almost the SAME MPH as my 15.7 run in my completely STOCK Alero
It was also a GAGT 3400, not a twin cam.

Saw lots of stock, or close to stock GAs run low 15s.

the 2.4/5 speed is a mid 16 sec car.

[Molson]

Originally posted by fiestyalerogirl81@Nov 20 2003, 10:03 PM
MY ALERo has not been able to visit the track yet. boohooo. Well thats ok the highway is my race trak.
Well, have fun, but know that emergency services laugh at you when they pull you mushy and mangled body out of a wreck. You have now topped your most stupid statement. I've been to accidents, where an innocent person was injured, quite seriously, from the consequences of "The highway is my racetrack, hyuck"
:dink:

Sorry to get off topic Flalero. But I had to say that.

[flalero]

Don't worry about getting off the topic, check out my post earlier in this thread, I said something about her comment of street racing.

[justinusaf]

I Ran a 1/4 time of 15.778 @ 86.53 MPH at Raceway Park In Englistown, NJ. To See Pics of the start and finish go to http://www.cardomain.com/id/justinusafMy Alero (http://www.cardomain.com/id/justinusaf)

[justinusaf]

Originally posted by justinusaf@Dec 9 2003, 01:26 PM
I Ran a 1/4 time of 15.778 @ 86.53 MPH at Raceway Park In Englistown, NJ. To See Pics of the start and finish go to http://www.cardomain.com/id/justinusaf[URL=http://www.cardomain.com/id/justinusaf]
Sorry I messed up the website for the Post above this one. The pics of the start and finish of the race are at http://www.cardomain.com/id/justinusaf
Thanks

[flalero]

that was pretty cool seeing you stomp that Accord.

[supvnman]

If this helps at all

2.289 60ft
6.597 330ft
10.170 1/8th @ 69.70 mph
13.220 1000ft
15.820 1/4 @ 84.31 mph

stock 3.4 2-door alero. soon after i found out that my air filter was crammed with dirt, plus it was a fram.

[Redog]

Ran a 1/4 time of 15.778 @ 86.53 MPH at Raceway Park In Englistown, NJ. To See Pics of the start and finish go to http://www.cardomain.com/id/justinusafMy Alero

I also was at Englishtown on that day I thought you ran a 15.3. My car was out of aligment that day, well it still is, after I get it fixed I'm going to head over to Acto. I thought I saw on their site that they have test and tune on the weekends in the wintertime.

[Orion]

yo guys January 25 a bunch of us aleros are going to atco, meeting there around 10 to 11, u guys should come that live around NJ , PA< DEL

[Redog]

I'm hoping that I can run about 15.5 at Atco, but I'll be happy with 15.69 or 15.70.

My main goal is to get into the high 14's but I don't know if that will happen

[Coupe]

You guys have to understand that not all cars are created equal. Even if they are the same model year and make. When i went to MGM this past fall there where 2 GAGT's that both where literaly stock that where hitting 15.2-15.4 all day. I couldnt break 15.6 for the life of me and my mods greatly out weighed them. But none the less they stomped on me all day. My buddy at GAGT.com (kubiache) only has headers as far as "serious performance mods go" and his best was 14.8. Ive also watched other GAGT's that have headers, P&P EVERYTHING, big @ss TB, PCM and they couldnt break 15 flat. It comes down to the car itself. No one really knows why this is. American cars are known for having factory freaks. I will be hitting high 14's this spring for sure. If not im gonna cry.