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Silverknight
03-04-2004, 11:41 PM
Here are some pics of the engine after we ripped the head off and took a look at the block.

http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine1.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine2.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine3.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine4.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine5.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine6.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine7.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine8.jpg
http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20broken%20engine9.jpg

Final-Reality
03-04-2004, 11:48 PM
Bah.. it's just a little chip! It'll be fine... :unsure:

Also, the pics are blurry, and you took a bunch of pics of the head like something is wrong with it, but I can't tell... so whats wrong with it?

Also, are #2 and #4 both busted?

Silverknight
03-04-2004, 11:57 PM
if you look closely at the second pic. the metal on the top of the ring , above the valves, is mashed to bits. also the second hole from the left is similar but not as badly damaged. You really have to see it in person to be able to see the damage.

Final-Reality
03-04-2004, 11:59 PM
Ah ok, that was where the piston material was smushed into the chamber... fun :P

I hope you have some aftermarket pistons and rods on the way? Hopefully a head port & polish and the secret cam swap too

Silverknight
03-04-2004, 11:59 PM
it's shown more closely in the third pic

Silverknight
03-05-2004, 12:02 AM
Originally posted by Final-Reality@Mar 5 2004, 04:59 AM
Ah ok, that was where the piston material was smushed into the chamber... fun :P

I hope you have some aftermarket pistons and rods on the way? Hopefully a head port & polish and the secret cam swap too
actually, GM is rebuilding the engine for me, they are covering it under warranty...the way I look at it is that a working newly rebuilt stock engine is still better than a blown engine :)

Silverknight
03-05-2004, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Final-Reality@Mar 5 2004, 04:48 AM
Bah.. it's just a little chip! It'll be fine... :unsure:

Also, the pics are blurry, and you took a bunch of pics of the head like something is wrong with it, but I can't tell... so whats wrong with it?

Also, are #2 and #4 both busted?
ya there are cracks in the pistons. Nasty stuff...they chunks of pistons were grinding up against the head and eventually welded themselves or pressed themselves into the head itself...it would cost $3000 to get it fixed without warranty

Molson
03-05-2004, 12:24 AM
if GM is doing it, why did you take it apart?

Oldsman
03-05-2004, 12:28 AM
you didn't tell them you are n2o obiviously

99blackalero
03-05-2004, 01:30 AM
ya..WTF...i guess GM wont do it if you're taking it apart

Fast Eddie
03-05-2004, 02:44 AM
:huh?: :huh?: :huh?: :popcorn:

overdrive75
03-05-2004, 06:48 AM
Yeah I think you are lying about GM doing the work, because I find it hard to believe they would tear down a motor, when they are just going to order a reman to put in there. Oh yeah and if they are doing, it, under warrenty, that's a great scam. Hey I blew my engine up by running NOS, then I took it all off and the dealer is gonna fix it under warrenty. That puts you in the same place in my book as the people that scam money off of little old laddies that don't know any better. Or the people that set up phony charitys after major disastorous events, and pocket the money. Some one needs to tip the dealer off where this guy has the car, that way half way through the job they can say they aren't covering it, and hold his car while it is appart for payment of a portion of the estimate, and then hold the car till it is paid for by him once done.

chicken_dog
03-05-2004, 08:01 AM
Think about this if gm is that stupid to cover the rebuild and not look into it then it is there own god damn fault. As for saying someone should tip off gm i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis. I bought a 02 alero and i had to change my brakes at 20,000 kms wtf. I had a 98 sunfire and did a brake job at 80;000 kms doing the same driving as always. This type of poop with the alero is not uncommon. Ive had all sorts of problems with my car besides the brakes, The seat broke on the rails, tilt stering colum broke, water pump. If i would have known the alero was a constant headache i would have never bought it the first place. Oh yeah what is with gm cars loosing like 5-9 thousand dollars in the first year of their value ?? like this is not reason enough to let gm take it in the rear. So let him have his glory cause i think he is finished running nitrous on the alero anyway. If this does not teach him a lesson then so be it but gm will definatly look into it if his motor goes a second time.

justinusaf
03-05-2004, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by chicken_dog@Mar 5 2004, 09:01 AM
Think about this if gm is that stupid to cover the rebuild and not look into it then it is there own god damn fault. As for saying someone should tip off gm i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis. .
I agree.

misslindseysue
03-05-2004, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by chicken_dog@Mar 5 2004, 08:01 AM
i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis.
Well if people keep scamming GM out of all this money, he's going to lose his damn job. Christ. It's not like GM tries to make cars that lose their value. They don't make the parts, either, they buy them from a million different suppliers. Suppliers make cheap parts because GM demands cost decreases, in order to keep costs down so that you can afford the car. You get what you pay for.

jonez
03-05-2004, 01:59 PM
Screw that. He bunnyed up and blew his engine, not GM. Therfore he should have to pay. If it was faulty from the factory yes GM should foot the bill. I know some people have had bad experences with thier Alero's. But every basic car manufactor also puts out cars that have problems. I have know people with Honda's who have done no mods and had plenty of problems. It just when you mass produce something the quality on everyone is not going to be the same. But IMO I will always drive GM cars and trucks because they are the best.

misslindseysue
03-05-2004, 02:24 PM
^ Exactly

Molson
03-05-2004, 03:07 PM
oh, GM will find out about him. Then its not only sneaky, its fraud.

Hope you like the showers in jail.

Oldsman
03-05-2004, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by misslindseysue+Mar 5 2004, 09:11 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (misslindseysue @ Mar 5 2004, 09:11 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-chicken_dog@Mar 5 2004, 08:01 AM
i think you should keep your trap shut and let someone get something back from gm as they piss people off on a daily basis.
Well if people keep scamming GM out of all this money, he's going to lose his damn job. Christ. It's not like GM tries to make cars that lose their value. They don't make the parts, either, they buy them from a million different suppliers. Suppliers make cheap parts because GM demands cost decreases, in order to keep costs down so that you can afford the car. You get what you pay for. [/b][/quote]
so this transulate into GM cars are cheaply made because of GM demanding cheap parts from suppliers. Boy there is a newsflash.

Far as GM doesn't try to make cars that lose value...........Aztek, saturn. Hell i have read articles that says they continued to make Oldsmobiles even though there was no profit and the lost of value just so GM could have a company to hit the 100 birthday mark first.


Scamming GM isn't cool.

But yet i'm sure his dealer scammed him so scam dealer. fair play.

Oh if you honestly think GM don't scam all of us car buyers.......lol. I use to work for a supplier for Saturn. If you knew the crap GM allows and does with suppliers...........lol.

misslindseysue
03-05-2004, 04:32 PM
I didn't think it would be news, just pointing out that you have to pay mercedes prices for mercedes quality.
Why would they want a car to lose value? Higher resale value boosts sales. Yeah, they've made a few bad calls, but I'm sure they hope everything will keep its value.
Getting scammed by a dealer is his own fault. I always check GM labor times and ask for my parts when I have something done there.
I work with a lot of auto suppliers too, I know what goes on.

Final-Reality
03-05-2004, 09:48 PM
GM's lose their value quickly because they whore out all their vehicles to rental fleets at basement prices, flooding the market which hurts resale value, plus percieved quality isnt good on GM vehicles (and up until very recently, rightfully so)

aleropimp1
03-06-2004, 01:39 AM
i love GM, my dad worked at delphi for years and they make great cars. They might have there fare share of bad bunches, but thats becouse people are lazy and build things half assed at the assembly line. My car came from the Mexico assembly line and it was made rite before a holiday ;) luckey me. i have replaced almost ever part on that car. all under warrenty of course. Thanks Gm for making up for all the lazy F's in the world. but i have gm cars that are well made and lasted well over 200,000 miles. IF you wanna bash GM the go test your luck with a good old rusty honda. My friend had a 2001 honda civic. biggest piece of crap i ever drove. the inside looked like fisher price made it. he broke two struts on that thing in 2 months driving it like a grandma. it was a manual and it only went in reverse half the time and it grinded the gears ever so often when you put it in firt. My clutch was made in italy B). thanks GM for your well built cars i love them.

Oldsman
03-06-2004, 10:26 AM
I'll bash GM however and whenever I want. Don't like it, too bad.

Silverknight
03-06-2004, 12:47 PM
well as far as I'm concered the car blew up under normal conditions. I wasn't spraying when the motor died. The week before this I took the car in complaining about valve chatter and what not. They told me it would be fine and fix itself. I then tried running a 75 shot once. The next day I was giving it full throttle in third gear and it went. I didn't even have the bottle connected to the car.

overdrive75
03-06-2004, 01:43 PM
Use your brain, man, the engine had been over stressed due to the NOS, it was only a matter of time till it failed, even under normal conditions. Don't worry what goes around comes around, you'll get stupid and blow it again, try to pull the same poop and the dealer will get smart. Best case someone has tipped them off, and you won't be able to get your car till you can pay for it.

aleropimp1
03-06-2004, 06:28 PM
LOOKS LIKE MY FIVE SPEEDS WAY FASTER THEN YOUR RUN DOWN POS NOW. HA HA HA I AM THE FASTEST

Pimpalero03
03-06-2004, 09:42 PM
dealers cant give u parts back on warrenty wrok. they have to send it back

Silverknight
03-07-2004, 05:20 PM
^under normal conditions your right. But I've made special request for the parts after they are checked by GM. Ohh by the way, heres my current ride

http://www.selleasier.com/neils%20nos.jpg

a 2002 Malibu.

Silverknight
03-07-2004, 05:26 PM
here's a vid
http://www.selleasier.com/purge.AVI

Pimpalero03
03-07-2004, 06:17 PM
:huh: :huh: why? :huh: :huh:

why not sell ur alero and ur malibu and buy one car that is worth money and modding..

Silverknight
03-07-2004, 06:29 PM
cause I like my cars...tha malibu is not mine, it's my parents. they are lending it to me while my car gets fixed

Molson
03-07-2004, 06:33 PM
they lent you the Malibu, so you put nos on it? How are you going to explain to them when that motor blows?

And I though the Alero was theirs too?

dopey
03-07-2004, 08:30 PM
i think the best way to sum this kid up is that he is just a complete fockin moron.

Oldsman
03-07-2004, 08:44 PM
your parents let you put n2o on their car????????? Or you just trying to be cool and just do a purge setup.

i agree sweet but wouldn't use those words.

Silverknight
03-07-2004, 11:08 PM
Actually my dad and I race both our cars at Shannonville Drag during the season. We race against each other. Thats his own purge kit on his own car. He's the one who got me into modding my car in the first place.

Spy
03-08-2004, 04:34 AM
Originally posted by Silverknight@Mar 8 2004, 04:08 AM
Actually my dad and I race both our cars at Shannonville Drag during the season. We race against each other. Thats his own purge kit on his own car. He's the one who got me into modding my car in the first place.
you mean puttin' cars on the bottle and nawsin n flawsin.


not modding, just cheap way out.

overdrive75
03-08-2004, 06:52 AM
Originally posted by SweetAlero99@Mar 7 2004, 09:30 PM
i think the best way to sum this kid up is that he is just a complete fockin moron.
I can agree with you on this one, the more this punk kid posts, the more i see he is just plain ol' stupid.

Silverknight
03-08-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Spy+Mar 8 2004, 09:34 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Spy @ Mar 8 2004, 09:34 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Silverknight@Mar 8 2004, 04:08 AM
Actually my dad and I race both our cars at Shannonville Drag during the season. We race against each other. Thats his own purge kit on his own car. He's the one who got me into modding my car in the first place.
you mean puttin' cars on the bottle and nawsin n flawsin.


not modding, just cheap way out. [/b][/quote]
his car runs a low 14 without the bottle so I don't think you should be sayin poop about his ride.

Silverknight
03-08-2004, 01:45 PM
just incase anyone was wondering, as far as I know this is what is done to the car : intake, port and polished head, stainless steel valves, lower and upper engine mounts, ignition system, built bottom end, and a vortec supercharger running 11 psi

Silverknight
03-08-2004, 01:46 PM
I'll check with him later on if u want details

Fast Eddie
03-08-2004, 02:03 PM
I think this thread has gone far enough, with regard to its lack of tackt...