View Full Version : Front Mount Intake
CiscoPath
10-21-2006, 11:10 PM
I know guy who crapped out his Civic and is parting it. The intake sparked my interest. I've always wondered how efficient they were. Guy says it worked great. I know the piping won't match, so i was thinking about some RS Akimoto Spiral Flex tubing:
http://www.turbofriendly.com/4insflex.html
I've never heard any reviews on this thing. My only concern is would it really worth the work and would it restrict the radiator. I know people put intercoolers up front all the time, but me and my radiator have a somewhat sordid past
NjRef511
10-21-2006, 11:21 PM
I'd be more afraid of sucking up bugs or having my intake clogged by such.
AlbinoMonkeyRat
10-21-2006, 11:27 PM
^ that's what grille mesh is for
IMO, if you have to pay anything more for this thing than a "built for alero" intake, then it's not worth it. And I mean parts and fab materials combined.
sound_xtreme
10-22-2006, 12:05 AM
you could make that piping work, youll just have to cut it to fit(im assuming you have the 3400, if u got a 4cyl all bets are off)
CiscoPath
10-22-2006, 12:20 AM
He's giving me the intake, no charge along with couplers. Only thing I'd have to supply is the tubing and I can fabricate my own brackets. And i know the intakes for the 3400 (what I have) are effective. I've been following the reviews for years but never got one because I could never wrap my mind around the benefit of mounting in the engine bay or wheel well. The obvious choice to me was always in the direct path of the air. And if I gotta spend a little extra for some fab work, hey at least i can be satisfied with fact that i'll be the only Al with it. That's what it's all about, right? And hell, it's been months since me and Al have had a project
sound_xtreme
10-22-2006, 09:23 AM
hey at least i can be satisfied with fact that i'll be the only Al with it.
nope, been done. alero18 did it.
CiscoPath
10-22-2006, 10:16 AM
^^Is he no longer a member, or inactive? Tried pulling up posts from him and i get the "Sorry-No matches found" message
sound_xtreme
10-22-2006, 10:24 AM
theres not many pics of it. i seen it in person though. you might be able to catch it on cardomain still
sound_xtreme
10-22-2006, 10:25 AM
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/610214 oh, i guess he finally sold it, congrats to him.
CiscoPath
10-22-2006, 11:12 AM
Hey, I remember that Al from years ago..........and seeing "for sale" ads everywhere for it. Used to go into epileptic shock whenever I saw the interior. Didnt take any close-up shots of the front end though nor talk whether the intake worked or not. And whoever bought isn't braggin on it or making themselves none. So once I knock it out........
I'LL BE THE ONLY "ACTIVE" MEMBER WITH IT.
(hey i'll settle for the consolation prize)
Alerwhoa
10-22-2006, 12:33 PM
Wow thats freakin ricer-riffic right there.
But I will say there are things I do like about the vehicle. The orange interior is just to much for me but i like the seats. The headlights are also pretty trick and look good matching the graphics. But it definatly has its down sides.
ImSoBored
10-22-2006, 06:10 PM
I'LL BE THE ONLY "ACTIVE" MEMBER WITH IT.
(hey i'll settle for the consolation prize)
who cares
CiscoPath
10-22-2006, 07:19 PM
^^Apparently YOU. I mean the "smart" thing would have been not posting at all, but since you "CARED" enough to post...............well, it kinda makes ya look like a dumbass, know what i mean?
aleromod101
10-22-2006, 08:30 PM
I like it. Its different!!
sound_xtreme
10-22-2006, 10:36 PM
you'll suck up a lot of water with that in the rain
aleromod101
10-22-2006, 11:29 PM
Thats true
Kilroy
10-23-2006, 01:23 AM
WOuldn't all the bends in the tubing required to route it to your intake, make it overly restrictive? I though the best idea is as few bends as possible. Also, I agree with the "suck up alot of rain" concept as mentioned earlier/
Cliff8928
10-23-2006, 02:40 AM
I'm not sure about that one, But i know i've seen other ones that had a lexan shield to go in front of it for that specific purpose.
CiscoPath
10-23-2006, 03:05 AM
I know the ones you're talking about, Cliff. But I've got a piece of plexi glass just doing nothing in my trunk, so it would be a simple matter dremeling it to shape and drilling some holes. But if you have grill mesh and the car is lowered, it's gonna be a PITA replacing/removing it especially in the rain. As for numerous bends, the only extra bend would be from the intake and up. Other than that, it will still run the same pattern as a standard intake
But anyway, I'm not gonna keep this thread alive and constantly have people asking "Have ya done it" or "What's the hold up". All I really wanted to know is if anyone heard any good performance reviews about it, but I got more cons than pros. I'll just do it and post pics when I can. Thanx for the comments
CiscoPath
03-03-2007, 04:07 PM
For anyone that cares
http://www.pbase.com/ciscopath/fmi
I'm gonna give it a week to see how it handles performance-wise and check the rain aspect. It definitely sounds better than my WAI, but if it runs like crap, at least I only invested around 45 dollars and 4 hours into it. I know it looks kinda out of place. There are clearance and piping issues that can easily be fixed but only after determining it's worth it
SittinOnChrome
03-03-2007, 04:19 PM
someone make me a new intake for a 2.4 and send it to me and i will pay you alot of money
jturkey69
03-04-2007, 01:40 AM
i thought there was a little sheild that would cover the filter in the event of rain? maybe use an AEM bypass on the intake tube to rule out the possibility of water?
on a side note...does anyone have a better pic of the rear seats of the black and orange alero??...We have been trying to decide if we wanted to try and fit two buckets in back and custom console from front to rear with ps2 and speakers, but on that alero it looks like the seats are way close together, and also touching the back glass
white04alero
03-04-2007, 02:59 PM
looks dumb
sorrowfulkiller
03-05-2007, 12:24 AM
It would be a good idea... if it was done on the damn hood and with a custom "box" to plug the piping to so that...
a. you don't get shit from the ground (oil, dirt, mud) up on the filter.
b. better flow since it would be going straight into a pipe
c. you have room for an intercooler if its turboed
CiscoPath
03-06-2007, 12:10 AM
jturkey69
I have the shield too, but you have to undo four Allen-head screws to put it on and take it off, which would be a PITA everytime it rained. I do have the AEM Bypass I bought years ago that I plan to mount after the MAF, but the pipe between the TB & the MAF has to be shortened first since the battery confines spaces for it. My Dremel died on me earlier that day so I'll have to work some more on it this Saturday.
sorrowfulkiller
Your statements hold no validity. I don't know what backwoods you live in, but here in the CITY, we drive on asphalt, not dirt roads and mud tracks. The same dirt, water, and bugs that can get caught in my intake can also be caught in a Ram Air hood. That's why we have grill mesh which is found in RA hood openings to catch bugs and large debris, a filter that does the job of any other filter: catch as many harmful containments as it can. And just like any filter, it'll have to be cleaned/changed from time to time (luckily mine is re-usable). I have the AEM Bypass which dissolves the water issue the same way RAs have special channels for water dispersion. And what "straight flow of air" are you talking about? For a CAI to work on our cars, there is at least one bend to run it down into the fenderwell, and possibly another bend to route it closer to the front end. I have a third bend running from the intake back which if in some unconceived manner makes it less effective, the fact that it's located directly in the path of the oncoming air makes it just as effective as RA, and more effective than the CAIs for our cars which are located in the fenderwell and breathe in the cool air it "catches" where as the front mount forces air in (which is very notice-able around 75 MPH). And to effectively install a CAI on our cars, the shield inside has to be removed, which means the exact same "shit from the ground" can get on the filter from the wheel. And this car will never be boosted, so space is the least of my concerns. And this is not some review I've read about it. This is real talk, plain common sense. So please, try again to explain what concerns you have
white04alero
03-06-2007, 12:25 AM
jturkey69
I have the shield too, but you have to undo four Allen-head screws to put it on and take it off, which would be a PITA everytime it rained. I do have the AEM Bypass I bought years ago that I plan to mount after the MAF, but the pipe between the TB & the MAF has to be shortened first since the battery confines spaces for it. My Dremel died on me earlier that day so I'll have to work some more on it this Saturday.
sorrowfulkiller
Your statements hold no validity. I don't know what backwoods you live in, but here in the CITY, we drive on asphalt, not dirt roads and mud tracks. The same dirt, water, and bugs that can get caught in my intake can also be caught in a Ram Air hood. That's why we have grill mesh which is found in RA hood openings to catch bugs and large debris, a filter that does the job of any other filter: catch as many harmful containments as it can. And just like any filter, it'll have to be cleaned/changed from time to time (luckily mine is re-usable). I have the AEM Bypass which dissolves the water issue the same way RAs have special channels for water dispersion. And what "straight flow of air" are you talking about? For a CAI to work on our cars, there is at least one bend to run it down into the fenderwell, and possibly another bend to route it closer to the front end. I have a third bend running from the intake back which if in some unconceived manner makes it less effective, the fact that it's located directly in the path of the oncoming air makes it just as effective as RA, and more effective than the CAIs for our cars which are located in the fenderwell and breath in the cool air it "catches" where as the front mount forces air in (which is very notice-able around 75 MPH). And to effectively install a CAI on our cars, the shield inside has to be removed, which means the exact same "shit from the ground" can get on the filter from the wheel. And this car will never be boosted, so space is the least of my concerns. And this is not some review I've read about it. This is real talk, plan common sense. So please, try again to explain what concerns you have
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