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boostnsrt
10-23-2006, 06:40 PM
new to the alero world, my first issue is the speed limiter that kicks in at around 118 on my 01 2.4. how do i get rid of it?

doubleN0alero
10-23-2006, 06:44 PM
why are you going 118 to begin with?

jackal2000
10-23-2006, 07:07 PM
why are you going 118 to begin with?
because soldiers are invincible. i know this first hand.

super white alero1
10-23-2006, 07:19 PM
If you can't break into the 12 sec mark why do you need to have an ungovern car?

boostnsrt
10-23-2006, 07:21 PM
hopefully that invincible shit still works when i go back to iraq next month, i was goin 118 because i bought the car about a month ago and i have a g-tech pro from my neon r/t. i was tetsing the performance boundaries of the car in stock form. trying to find out the best performance options to start out on. so far stock, 16.77 1/4, 118 top, .78 g's on the skid. this car has relatively low miles for an '01 only 60k

Redog
10-23-2006, 07:28 PM
You gotta get a PCM upgrade.

You're not going to hit 118 in the 1/4 anyway

boostnsrt
10-23-2006, 07:30 PM
i dont plan on hitting 118 in the quarter yet. i'll leave that to my cbr. right now it is the overall performance of the car from top to bottom that i want to improve.

jackal2000
10-23-2006, 07:42 PM
i dont plan on hitting 118 in the quarter yet. i'll leave that to my cbr. right now it is the overall performance of the car from top to bottom that i want to improve.
so then your first issue isnt the speed limiter its the fact you have a 2.4L lol

boostnsrt
10-23-2006, 07:44 PM
lol thats good, the funny thing i realize is that i hav a friend with the 3400 and we found my car is actually quicker than his and pulls better on the skidpad, but he doesnt have the 118 speedlimiter.

adam337
10-23-2006, 07:57 PM
my 01 2.4 governs at 105. 107 down hill

boostnsrt
10-23-2006, 08:16 PM
thats a funny ass cartoon. lol i dont know what to tell you bro. my speedo reads 123 when the speed limiter kicks in but the g-tech is saying 118. it really makes me wonder what the ecu is reading when it kicks in. because the speedo is saying one thing and the tach wont read the same everytime you hit 118 because of hills and slopes so shat is it. maybe the speed sensor on the wheel and the speedo error is somewhere between the sensor and the speedo itself. i also looked it up on my spec sheet i got from the dealer down the road. the dealer can run your vin and give you all the build spec codes for your car, recall info and shit. and the spec build sheet even says "118 overspeed limiter"

jackal2000
10-23-2006, 08:32 PM
no way your car is quicker than a 3400. even a stock one will put almost a second on you in the quarter mile.

boostnsrt
10-23-2006, 08:38 PM
like i said im new to the whole alero thing, maybe its the driver, maybe there is something wrong with the car, it also has 20k more miles on it, but the 3400 only has 20 more horses and 45 more lb ft of torque with almost 200 more lbs to push. power to weight ratio is a big thing when racing.

jackal2000
10-23-2006, 08:40 PM
stock 1/4 mile times for the 3400 are around 16 flat. something is wrong with that car. it in another alero? grand am gt?

boostnsrt
10-23-2006, 08:44 PM
no its an alero, 2 dr 3400. black. but it is a 99 model i think

boostnsrt
10-25-2006, 11:09 PM
anyway, back to my original question. how do i get rid of the speed limiter.

jackal2000
10-25-2006, 11:28 PM
i believe hptuners provides the software you need. wont be cheap though. $500.

http://www.hptuners.com/products/vcmsuite_vehicles.php

alero168
10-25-2006, 11:53 PM
search in the how to's i think there's one there, cut a few wires and such but i remember it also disables your odometer so a bad idea if you ever want to sell it.

edit: here you go
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7150

i think this thread needs to be closed as this was discussed long ago and to stop "wtf you doing that for?" questions

2fst4u
10-26-2006, 09:53 AM
alrite, another soldier with a 'ho. maybe i'll see you over here in baghdaddy.

boostnsrt
10-26-2006, 08:42 PM
alrite, another soldier with a 'ho. maybe i'll see you over here in baghdaddy.

i'll see you around the middle of december, at liberty

cherrington17
10-26-2006, 10:58 PM
i believe redog said it best with "upgrade the pcm" or get software that was mentioned.

but if you just upgrade the pcm, you should really do a bunch of engine work first, then have the chip custom tuned for your mods. gets you more bang for the buck.

jabartram
10-26-2006, 11:54 PM
he may already have aftermarket programming, our governors are set at 108 at the factory.

Oldsman
10-27-2006, 12:16 AM
ok for those of you who have no idea about the 2.4, time for another teaching lesson by Oldsman.

far as a 2.4 being able to take a 3400 , jackal would you like to see my time slips against v-6 GA's and crazytaxi from GAP 03 where i bet them or where they just barely won. a 2.4 can beat a 3400. i have proved that in the past.

now on to getting rid of limiter on a 2.4 you have one solution.........HP Tuners. the VSS switch is not recommended and can screw shit up.

is it possible that his goes over 108.........yes. he might have an european PCM. some of us aleromod vets will remember about some cars having that PCM.

MixtapeMessiah
10-27-2006, 12:27 AM
SCT has a programmer for any GM, the module is $500 plus u need the software so $250 for that. If ur a beginner I wouldnt do it, have a pro do it, plus ur gonna need someone with a dyno so u can get the results u want out of it. I did it at my alero at school (UTI) and made 20hp/19lb ft tq, changed my shiftpoints,a/f ratio and disabled my governer. Check out Superchips for GM for the sheisse u need.

Redog
10-27-2006, 12:31 AM
is it possible that his goes over 108.........yes. he might have an european PCM. some of us aleromod vets will remember about some cars having that PCM.

The rental I had in Vegas hit 122 with no problem. It was a 2.4 '99 4 door

Oldsnut
10-27-2006, 12:51 PM
The rental I had in Vegas hit 122 with no problem. It was a 2.4 '99 4 door

That's the reason I never buy a car that has been a rental.
122mph Holy Crap!:eek:

jayson_waltz
10-27-2006, 02:32 PM
118? i'd be happy with that. my '99 2.4 limits at 108.

jackal2000
10-27-2006, 02:36 PM
far as a 2.4 being able to take a 3400 , jackal would you like to see my time slips against v-6 GA's and crazytaxi from GAP 03 where i bet them or where they just barely won. a 2.4 can beat a 3400. i have proved that in the past.

so you beat the 4dr 3400's and lost to the 2dr 3400's right?

boostnsrt
10-27-2006, 03:40 PM
ok look, im not in the business of bullshitting people. i just wanna know what i have to do to get rid of the speed limiter. i want something that is retunable as i do more mods. i have a friend that owns a business with a front drive dyno. i also no for a fact what a factory car with a few hours on the dyno flashing the ecu can do. i had a neon r/t that pulled 188 front wheel horses with nothing but a reprogrammed ecu. no mods at all. then as the mods when on the ecu was reprogrammed.

p1mptress
10-27-2006, 03:44 PM
My car only gets to 104 when i first got it not sure about it now.

tr4v1sf
10-28-2006, 09:15 PM
yea mine is around 108-110

jlenko
11-19-2006, 03:01 PM
Every 2.4L PCM I've ever seen topped out at 108mph. Whether or not your speedometer is accurate at that speed, is the question. Not that I would trust a G-Tech any more than the stock speedometer...

boostnsrt
11-19-2006, 07:11 PM
the speedo cluster went out on me thursday and i had to get a new one from gm got it saturday. it turns out the speedo was innacurate i only got about 106-108 when i kicked in. i also did a road course today and had a blast until the goddamn limiter kicked in about 100 ft before the braking point begore the corner. had fun anyway.

strtrydr
11-20-2006, 10:26 AM
hopefully that invincible shit still works when i go back to iraq next month, i was goin 118 because i bought the car about a month ago and i have a g-tech pro from my neon r/t. i was tetsing the performance boundaries of the car in stock form. trying to find out the best performance options to start out on. so far stock, 16.77 1/4, 118 top, .78 g's on the skid. this car has relatively low miles for an '01 only 60k

no way your car is quicker than a 3400. even a stock one will put almost a second on you in the quarter mile.

And that my friend is the truth ... i ran 15.74 1/4 at Firebird Raceway, AZ.

3400 V6 CAI and Exhaust

super white alero1
11-20-2006, 12:15 PM
There's a law against Aleros going fast. It's called PHYSIC

strtrydr
11-20-2006, 12:18 PM
actually i think what you meant was PHYSICS ... anyway this law will be disproved once BlackJack gets to full boost :)