New video of 9 second Gran Prix

[BlackJack]

As most of you know, I tracked this car's progress for over a year now, almost to the point of stalking (only without the throat slashing).

Pleased to report that it is now flaunting a 9.01 and will soon be in the 8's.

For those of you who have not been tracking this with me, it is a 1997 Pontiac Gran Prix w/3800 twin turbo'd.

Builder is Stattama ( www.stattama.com (http://www.stattama.com) ) and lots of help from ZZPerformance ( www.zzperformance.com (http://www.zzperformance.com) )

The first victim I posted awhile back was a S/C intercooled Viper which got it's ass handed to it at a 9.73 run.

The lastest wasn't really any competition but happened to be at the staging line during test n tune, was a late model Gran Prix GTP (S/C 3800).

For those of you who were wondering why I track this car so hard, is that it's basically the motivator behind my own build, and am looking into a full TT build within the next coming year. I'll be about 400cc smaller engine than theirs, and a little heavier, so I'm planning on hitting 10's by then, until I figure out a way to get more traction.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j202/qaddamage/videos/th_TTGT9_01.jpg (http://www.zzperformance.com/miscftp/TTGT9_01.wmv)

[alero168]

wow, FF with a wheelie bar in the 9's, tell me he's the only one doing that...

[Oldsnut]

Holy Fook, I see your inspiration!! That was the high point of the day for me. :ninja:

[alerocar01]

looks like the other guy has never dragged before. i wish my car was that fast. i bet he gets a lot of people laughing at him before is run then after they are speechless.

[CiscoPath]

I bet the guy was like "HOLY SHIT" while he was doing the burnout in the box. And if it wasn't bracket racing, i'm sure he cleaned house that day

[MixtapeMessiah]

LMAO Holy fuck, that was bad ass

[billytheman1188]

Does he use this beast on the roads??? lmao,i would love to pull up to a guy in his mustang or some old dude in his vette and smoke them(not going over the speedlimit though, just off the line).

[Oldsnut]

Does he use this beast on the roads??? lmao,i would love to pull up to a guy in his mustang or some old dude in his vette and smoke them(not going over the speedlimit though, just off the line).
Billy, there ya go again. Can ya not refer to us as old dudes or olds guys, were just guys like everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)

[billytheman1188]

Billy, there ya go again. Can ya not refer to us as old dudes or olds guys, were just guys like everyone else. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)

haha, every guy around here who has a vette is probably in their 50s-60s, thats pretty damn old:lol:

[Oldsnut]

WTF are we gonna do with you besides beat the crap out of ya if you show up at ASS.:haha:

[BlackJack]

he's right ya know.....after all, for an old guy like me, the Alero is just a mid-life crisis. ROFLMAO

[number1alero]

damn thats sick...only thing about sleepers is they are becoming a thing of the past, with so many people these days thinking sleeper is the way to go, anymore it seems like its becoming more about the car you drive over how fast it is

[MixtapeMessiah]

hahahha yeah race sum old ass men like blackjack, that would be awesome. good luck losing LOL, I want a 9 second Alero, that will be one day.....one day Ill smoke yall with an LS2 in this alero thats gonna be RWD, and I dont care if yall pushin 60+ LOL

[kwhauck]

there was a guy that oldsman used to have a pic of, 454 alero with RWD and only ran like 14s........

[BlackJack]

yup, add nearly double the weight of a 3400, and not do anything to increase the HP, and it's pointless. never think for a second that displacement is everything. That's why there are 7-second ecotec drag cars out there.

[kwhauck]

there is also bettyracer grandam with a blown v8, not sure what kind of times she runs.......

check it at

http://www.*********central.com/photopost/data/13G57-med.jpg

you know what to do just replace the ******* with those three forbidden letters

[Coldfire]

Damn that thing is hot

[MixtapeMessiah]

^^^ I agree, looks gorgeous and its givin me ideas lol

[Satsuriku]

holy............bloody..........CHRIST!!

9.01 secs?!?! thats insane, lol i would hate to see the price tag hes dumped into her! my god thats a sick car!

[-Alero-]

who was it that was twin charged?

they had some aftermarket supercharger and some turbo on some 3800..........lol

[BlackJack]

price tag? heh. The insane part is, the engine is stock bottom end (crank/rods/pistons), and very few modifications to the transmission.

[RedFrk]

wow, FF with a wheelie bar in the 9's, tell me he's the only one doing that...
There are actually 3 fwd 3800s in the 9s. Two are from Intense, both with built engines and this one from ZZP/Stattama which used a stock bottom end and has the record. I believe they are all running wheelie bars.

[super white alero1]

who was it that was twin charged?

they had some aftermarket supercharger and some turbo on some 3800..........lol

How exactly can you turbo and super-cahrger the same motor at the same time? In theroy it is possible but. I would see too much restriction. A TT 3800 would be the best option for the GP

[RedFrk]

who was it that was twin charged?

they had some aftermarket supercharger and some turbo on some 3800..........lol
The owner of ZZP ran a twincharged setup into the 10s. It was a complete street car that weighed around 3500lbs. It was a ported gen3 m90 with a large turbonetics turbo.

[battistoni21]

:) i like

[Cliff8928]

I am seriously thinking about Twin-Charging the Alero. It would be fairly easy with the Ecotec.

Here's my inspiration for that one...

http://www.hilmersson-racing.com/bilder/Bildgalleri/Manta_galleri11.jpg

That engine on a dyno (http://www.hilmersson-racing.com/bilder/filmer/Manta_bromsning.mpg)

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

good luck twin anything on an Alero. it would take some money to do it. more power to ya if you do it


as for the video...IMO, the wheelie bar was merely there to improve traction, and perhaps reduce torque steer also.

[xbxradxsx]

Last year at the Nopi Nationals in Atlanta, I saw a little ugly ass hyundai (however the hell you spell it) that was turbo and supercharged. it was a small turbo and stuff. Have no idea how much boost he was pushin, but it looked pretty cool under the hood.

[kwhauck]

easiest way to twincharge an alero would be with a remote turbo, but as the redline and cobalt ss guys are finding out the tuning for a twincharged setup is a biatch........

[Cliff8928]

I don't think Twin-Charging the Ecotec would be all that hard, It's like raiding parts out of the GM parts bin. Now tuning on the other hand, I'd probably just take it to the shop, pay like $500 and they dyno-tune it.

[MixtapeMessiah]

It could be done, especially with SCT Tuning.

[BlackJack]

Actually, I've done the research and already have the plan down for TT in the ol' Silver Sled, and all under the hood without major work. Just oing to take a little fab. But I want to see exactly how far I can get with that T70 first, and I wont know until I can get the tranny/traction done. It's gonna be a blast though :)

[A57]

9 sec thats pretty fast...

[Oldsnut]

I want to see it now! Next project car i want to do that.

[SkullFractured]

a V8 Alero? ya I seen it. not impressed. anybody can get lots of power out of a V8 and most other V6's. but very few can get ass-kicking power out of a 60degree 3400. and I doubt if i'll ever see a twin turbo in an alero

[kwhauck]

it will happen sooner than you think.....my guess is within a year tops.....