Train horn help

[Redog]

OK I was going to wait until I hooked it up to show it off, but I got the kit today from FM Kustoms and I'm a little bit lost.

I see the compressor: 2 wires postive and ground I'm going to buy an inline fuse holder for a spade fuse, at least 16 gauge and put in either a 20 or 25 amp fuse. The air line from the compressor to the tank, the air line to the valve (with switch relay) and to the horn, but the kit came with a pressure switch, 2 prongs and a air fitting on the other end, where does this go?, also the switch relay, which prong is switch, power and ground?

[MixtapeMessiah]

lol i wanna see a vid of u scaring the shit outta people with that train horn lol, what DB is it rated at? sorry i cant help u out on that, havent hooked a horn up before

[sound_xtreme]

what kind of pressure switch? it may not need a ground depending. post a pic up. it wont matter which wires(power or to compressor) you hook up to which prong. all the pressure switch does it connect those 2 wires.

[Redog]

Here's the switch. My buddy thinks that the top hole (covered) it an exhaust port, but he hasn't seen it yet

[sound_xtreme]

looks like it's a non ground switch. so jus T it and plug ur wires in

[SweetNLow]

an exhaust port?

think about this......... how is the pressure switch gonna sense the pressure without being located someone in the air storage system?

the extra fitting you have should be for the pressure switch.......... it should screw into the fitting.

basically things most likely should go........ tank........fitting....... fitting with pressure switch........ compressor line....... compressor

like joel said you T the pressure switch. one should be constant power with your on/off switch and the other wire is the compressor 12v wire

[sound_xtreme]

you can actually put the switch bout anywhere before the valve(s), jus as long as it has a direct feed from the tank.

for example my switch is the grey box on top of the tank(a different switch but still works on the same principles)

http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/Ownerprofiles/soundxtreme/316200622935PM19401.jpg

while brents is inline with one of his ports going to his valves(at least thats how it was when he got the stuff)

[SweetNLow]

ya mine is now between the tank and the compressor.

but like joel said........ as long as it has a direct feed from the tank your fine.

and whenever you do get it all hooked up........... the first time you turn it on and fill the tank......... it will take forever to fill....... atleast it will seem that way. but just let it build pressure and it will turn off when its supposed to. i alwasy worry that my tank is gonna explode or something

[AftermathAlero]

Heres my chime in! LOL

Compressor wiring w/ relay

Relay Pins:
85: Ground
86: From Pressure Switch Prong (Don't matter which one)
87: Power wire from battery (Must be 10 gauge min. or 8 ga, Fused w/40 amp fuse)
30: Compressor Red Pos. wire.

Black wire to compressor: Ground.

Pressure Switch Wiring:
Prong 1: Switched 12+ (from ignition or on a switch from a constant)
Prong 2: To Relay Pin #86

Valve Wiring:

If you want to splice in ur stock horn wiring and run it all the way back to the valve, you can do that. Or connect one side to ground and other wire to 12+ on a push button (or toggle switch) w/ Constant 12+.

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Plumbing:

Connect compressor to tank to a port, Connect Pressure switch to a port, then another port for to connect the valve (inlet), then valve outlet to the train horns. then any other remaining ports on the tank; you will need to plug up. You will prolly need to goto home depot or a hardware store to get fitting to adapt the sizes. If there isn't enough ports, you can get some "T" and do more plumbing. (heres an example of a "T" from my old tank setup)

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/P1020583.jpg

Hope this answers your questions, ken.

[MixtapeMessiah]

lol have fun blowin ur ear drums with that horn!

[billytheman1188]

I keep laughing when i see the title of this thread. i cant wait to see videos of people getting the shit scared out of them.:lol: :lol:

[MixtapeMessiah]

^^^ Exactly dude lol, I saw a vid of I think it was soundxtreme scarin the shit outta someone with his train horn, fuuuuunny shit

[sound_xtreme]

not me

[billytheman1188]

^^^ Exactly dude lol, I saw a vid of I think it was soundxtreme scarin the shit outta someone with his train horn, fuuuuunny shit

yea i know what your talking about, i dont remember who it was though:lol: :lol: i wish i had one

[MixtapeMessiah]

ok not u, it was someone i dunno, I just thought of the two tone paint scheme I dunno why, but yeah whoever it was it was funny

[p1mptress]

i believe it was Marc aka Silentalero

[tseebs]

hey redog if u ever see a forest green alero driving around newtown give me a honk, i gotta hear this thing when you get it hooked up.

[Silentalero]

it was me who hit the button but it was richies horn...hes the sap that got me addicted to it...and now its a pissing battle to see whos is louder :lol:

[Redog]

Something tells he that the Holiday Inn isn't going to like us anymore :lol:

[Silentalero]

the horn is on the acura, so it depends which car i bring.

i even found an air horn for the bike now when i get the new one. :)

[Redog]

^^ I've seen those kits. pretty impressive :cool:

[AftermathAlero]

it was me who hit the button but it was richies horn...hes the sap that got me addicted to it...and now its a pissing battle to see whos is louder :lol:

haha ..i've got new horns! 250 psi .. 4 piece hornblasters! and these .. even at 10ft from the car you can feel the pressure. Will demonstrate at ASS. lol

Something tells he that the Holiday Inn isn't going to like us anymore :lol:

ROFL LOL.. no doubt. But we're kinda far away in the back.

[Redog]

OK you got me beat Richie.

The horn that I got is a SEPTA trolley horn. about 150 dB. They are only allowed to sound them in the tunnels :naughty:

[AftermathAlero]

OK you got me beat Richie.

The horn that I got is a SEPTA trolley horn. about 150 dB. They are only allowed to sound them in the tunnels :naughty:

heheheh NICE!!! :)

[Silentalero]

:lol: you bastard!! ok gotta step my game up. Mine are from metra train and normally 120psi but i upped it to 150psi now, gotta add bigger lines though

[Redog]

What about the valve switch? It has 3 prongs, none are marked

[racin4JC]

Are you talking about the valve wiring. If so what brand do you have, (I'm thinking ASCO?)?

[SweetNLow]

i cant wait to hear scott bitch at us for blowing our horns all day and nite at teh hotel and the show.....

i remeber afew old people were getting pissed at teh homecoming show last year casue me and marc kept hitting richies horn

[Silentalero]

i cant wait to hear scott bitch at us for blowing our horns all day and nite at teh hotel and the show.....

i remeber afew old people were getting pissed at teh homecoming show last year casue me and marc kept hitting richies horn

and sadly now comparing to the horns this year thats a soft volume :lol:

[Redog]

Are you talking about the valve wiring. If so what brand do you have, (I'm thinking ASCO?)?

Yes, cat # SC8238S402

[Redog]

Also the switch I bought is only a 20 amp, will that matter? It's a push button

[racin4JC]

Ok, take and look directly head on with the three prongs, with your white tag (with serial number) is on the left. The left vertical prong is your positive 12volt source and you can use either of the others as grounds (I use the right vertical prong easier to keep straight). Either way one prong will be left open. However, if you are hooking up multiple valves to a switch box (such as air suspension) make sure to use all ground prongs the same (ex. if you use the right vertical prong as your ground source, use that prong on every valve).
Also if your using multiple valves make sure to use two designated colors for your connectors (ex. blue crimp on end = pos., yellow crimp on end = neg.) this way if you have an issue and you need to take things out or off they are easily recognizeable.

[Redog]

Heres my chime in! LOL

Compressor wiring w/ relay

Relay Pins:
85: Ground
86: From Pressure Switch Prong (Don't matter which one)
87: Power wire from battery (Must be 10 gauge min. or 8 ga, Fused w/40 amp fuse)
30: Compressor Red Pos. wire.

Black wire to compressor: Ground.

Pressure Switch Wiring:
Prong 1: Switched 12+ (from ignition or on a switch from a constant)
Prong 2: To Relay Pin #86

Valve Wiring:

If you want to splice in ur stock horn wiring and run it all the way back to the valve, you can do that. Or connect one side to ground and other wire to 12+ on a push button (or toggle switch) w/ Constant 12+.

------------------------

Plumbing:

Connect compressor to tank to a port, Connect Pressure switch to a port, then another port for to connect the valve (inlet), then valve outlet to the train horns. then any other remaining ports on the tank; you will need to plug up. You will prolly need to goto home depot or a hardware store to get fitting to adapt the sizes. If there isn't enough ports, you can get some "T" and do more plumbing. (heres an example of a "T" from my old tank setup)

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/P1020583.jpg

Hope this answers your questions, ken.


Do you think I can run the toggle switch into the same line as the pressure switch to the ign, and would I need a fuse for that too?

[SweetNLow]

whats the toggle switch for?

[Redog]

To sound the horn.

The push button switch I bought only has 2 prongs, one for on and one for ground. I got a brake light switch for it

[SweetNLow]

im pretty sure you only need the 2 prongs........ one positive one negative..... cause hten when you push down on the button that completes the circuit and opens the valve.......

could be wrong im pretty dumb when it comes to wiring.......... thats why i keep joel around haha

[sound_xtreme]

lol, that switch goes in the middle of the power line. meaing theyre both positive(what brent explained is correct cept the pos/neg part). one brings the positive in and one goes to the relay or whatever. the switch does indeed just complete the circuit

[Redog]

OK I got it now.

I going to fuse on that one too

I will go valve, to switch, to ign or is hot better?

[sound_xtreme]

you want hot, that way you dont have to have the car running to use it

[SweetNLow]

use ignition unless you want the compressor to turn on even when you car is not running...... most likelyin killing your battery.

so i used ignition

[SweetNLow]

errrrrrrrr...... i thought you were talkin bout hot for the compressor.

im retarded........ joel is correct

[Redog]

OK I'm going to be hooking this up soon.

Thanks a bunch guys!!

[Oldsman]

i cant wait to hear scott bitch at us for blowing our horns all day and nite at teh hotel and the show.....

i remember afew old people were getting pissed at teh homecoming show last year casue me and marc kept hitting richies horn

Well if people use their brain and don't become annoying and an ass about it. i'm not going to bitch.

However if people go crazy with the horns and we either get kicked out of the hotel or show or i hear complaints then i am going to be pissed.

not saying not to use them but be smart, respectful to others about it.

[alerocar01]

can't wait to hear the horn

[Redog]

I'm unpluging mine at the Homecomming show ;)

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

so ASS = good to go for the horn
homecoming = cut it out.

as if we needed clarification. lol I'm dumb this morning.
well, I'm dumb everyday, but today especially. :(

[Redog]

so ASS = good to go for the horn


Yeah but only to an extent

[Redog]

Bit of an update.

The kit is completely hooked up now. I hooked the switch and the pressure switch both to "hot" I used that bolt on the corner of the fuse box under the hood. I hooked the compressor up right to the battery.

Relay points:
87 power
86 pressure switch
85 ground
30 compressor

(I'm going to double check these connections tomorrow in the daylight)

Compressor is grounded to the bolt on top of the strut on the drivers side, smae point on the passager side for the switch and relay. I used a splicer to join them up.

I have a 30 amp in-line fuse for the compressor. and a 20 amp for the switch. When I pushed the switch button, I can hear the valve opening and closing, very exciting. I hook the compressor up to the battery and nothing, It don't turn on or start :(

The in-line fuse for that seems to be a bit cheap, It looked like it fell apart when I stripped the sheet. I'm going to buy a new one tomorrow and try it again. Does it seem like everything else it hooked up right?

Plus a good safety tip. When hooking up anythng to that bolt, undo the battery. I tapped the suspension mount with the socket wrecnh and it threw one hell of a spark, I didn't get shocked but I did jump back about 10 feet! :eek:

[sound_xtreme]

uhhh, it sparked when you did the suspension mount bolt??????? uhhhhh...i could see when you put the wire on the bolt it sparked, but touching the socket wrench to is shouldnt do anything. AND, if you DID get spark, that means the compressor is getting power.

[Redog]

No, I was hooking up the switch when I threw the spark. I was tighting up the bolt and the end of the socket wrench hit the suspension mount hump under the hood

When I hooked up the main power wire, nothing happened. I think I have to replace that fuse line. Like I said, some copper fell out when I stripped the sheet off the wire