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shiny alero
03-17-2007, 10:50 PM
i want to learn to fiberglass. but. i no VERY little about it. i want to start with the rear deck. i obviusly no the glass wont stick to the carpet. so how do i remove it and what do i do to get it ready? i searched but couldnt find a how to.
DOHC_tuner
03-17-2007, 10:58 PM
First off bro its the easiest thing to do once you understand how it works. You will need a few tools to manage your success in the custom fiberglass tools. Heres what I have done at my best using fiberglass. A Custom tailight design. You will need a good circular sander, fiberglass aswell, dust masks cause you need to sand and smooth out the surface where you will add fiberglass and after you add it you will also need to sand and smooth it.
shiny alero
03-17-2007, 11:00 PM
what tools?
DOHC_tuner
03-17-2007, 11:02 PM
What kind of custom job are u trying to do?
shiny alero
03-17-2007, 11:03 PM
well, im thinking of doing my rear deck first. unless you would sugest something smaller.
DOHC_tuner
03-17-2007, 11:07 PM
well if your trying to make a custom chamber for your speakers it will take some practice but it can be done. Is this what u mean bro by rear deck?
shiny alero
03-17-2007, 11:09 PM
i want to possibly put 4 speaker holes instead of 2, but for the most part i just want to no how to remove the carpet, and what i need to do to lay the fiberglass so i can paint it
AftermathAlero
03-17-2007, 11:12 PM
i want to possibly put 4 speaker holes instead of 2, but for the most part i just want to no how to remove the carpet, and what i need to do to lay the fiberglass so i can paint it
fiberglass will stick to the carpet. U cant remove the carpet. its molded on. Whoever told u it doesn't stick to carpet is wrong. Your looking at alot of work and at least 300 bucks in material mininum. even more if u don't have the air tools or electric sanders. You can not sand fiberglass by hand.
DOHC_tuner
03-17-2007, 11:12 PM
First off look in your trunk I havent inspected this but look in the trunk and see if u can see the current two speakers. If so is there any metal in the way to add another two to the group. And if so then you have bigger probs than the carpet. And as for the carpet look around the edges for snaps and for a better look put down the back seat and u can see where the carpet starts and go from there
DOHC_tuner
03-17-2007, 11:15 PM
fiberglass will stick to the carpet. U cant remove the carpet. its molded on. Whoever told u it doesn't stick to carpet is wrong. Your looking at alot of work and at least 300 bucks in material mininum. even more if u don't have the air tools or electric sanders. You can not sand fiberglass by hand.
Your right fiberglass does stick to carpet once it dries, I just finished working on a Mustang Bodykit and I still got fiberglass on my f**kn fingers, I used gas to take some of it off
shiny alero
03-17-2007, 11:15 PM
damn a lot more pricey than i thougt lol. its worth it. but im in the process of buying a house so im limited...maybe for now just attempt to do some reupholstering of the panel and door panels lol for some reason i was thinking fiberglass was way cheaper.
racin4JC
03-17-2007, 11:15 PM
You technically don't have to remove the carpet on the rear deck to fiberglass it (it will use a lot more resign if you don't) but it would probably be the best to take it off. You can use an angle grinder to remove the carpet, but go very slow and take your time, you don't want to eat into the plastic shell just lightly touch it enough to take off just carpet.
DOHC_tuner
03-17-2007, 11:21 PM
Using fiberglass you can make anything possible, Once you get the hang of it you can totally customize your ride
Eh_nigma
03-17-2007, 11:32 PM
Hey, how's it going... http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16740&page=5
Look halfway down the page... maybe this is what you're looking for?
Okay, fiberglass over the carpet, maybe not such a hot idea as you may get ripples... only because the carpet may be pressed down in some areas, and remain higher up in other places.
Removing the carpet? Get a power grinder... just look at the link.
Prior to my fiberglassing, I took some 100 Grit sand paper, roughed it up enough so that the hardener and fibers would have something to bond to. It's the edges you need to worry about. In those areas, if you're still concerned as to how much it will stick, and you didn't wrap it over, just run a thin line of THICK super glue, and smooth it out.
There's a couple other parts that are fiberglassed in that thread, using the same ideas.
Hope this helps...
sound_xtreme
03-18-2007, 12:28 AM
uh circular sander? try a DA
Eh_nigma
03-18-2007, 01:52 PM
The reason I used what I did, is because that Parcel Deck isn't completely flat. The round disc allows for getting into the 'not so hard, but hard enough' places. And easy to switch between discs as well to smooth things out.
DOHC_tuner
03-18-2007, 02:29 PM
uh circular sander? try a DA
See the red thing next 2 the bumber on the floor, that a circular sander or what ever the name is. and it helps alot working with fiberglass. CUSTOM is MY touch!!!!!!!!
shiny alero
03-18-2007, 02:39 PM
not to get off topic but is 48x8 size mesh enuf for my whole body kit?
sound_xtreme
03-18-2007, 07:18 PM
that looks like a home orbital wood sander, use a air DA sander
pimpalero2003
03-18-2007, 07:20 PM
First off bro its the easiest thing to do once you understand how it works. You will need a few tools to manage your success in the custom fiberglass tools. Heres what I have done at my best using fiberglass. A Custom tailight design. You will need a good circular sander, fiberglass aswell, dust masks cause you need to sand and smooth out the surface where you will add fiberglass and after you add it you will also need to sand and smooth it.
what did u do bondo over everything
DOHC_tuner
03-18-2007, 07:53 PM
what did u do bondo over everything
well i didn't use bondo i used fiberglass and before you add fiber glass you must sand it real good or atleast till the gloss is removed, then i added cat hairs and fiberglass. Last i sanded the whole trunk to get a smooth and even surface. In my opinion it looks better than the big tailight original look.
pimpalero2003
03-18-2007, 08:07 PM
i hated the fact lights. i was hopping u used hair thats not a bad idea though
DOHC_tuner
03-18-2007, 08:15 PM
i hated the fact lights. i was hopping u used hair thats not a bad idea though
its simple autozone gots everything u need.
-A mat of Cat Hairs
-Fibergloss jelly
-A putty knife
-but they don't have a circular sander so u might want to pick that up at wal-mart
AftermathAlero
03-19-2007, 01:06 PM
its simple autozone gots everything u need.
-A mat of Cat Hairs
-Fibergloss jelly
-A putty knife
-but they don't have a circular sander so u might want to pick that up at wal-mart
Ouch autozone bondo brand stuff is the worst stuff to use. You should switch over to evercoat brand. Evercoat body filler and etc OWNZ. Easiest stuff to sand ever. way better than bondo brand body filler.
SweetNLow
03-19-2007, 03:25 PM
well i didn't use bondo i used fiberglass and before you add fiber glass you must sand it real good or atleast till the gloss is removed, then i added cat hairs and fiberglass. Last i sanded the whole trunk to get a smooth and even surface. In my opinion it looks better than the big tailight original look.
please tell me you didnt just glass over the stock tail lights. cause judging from the picture i saw of your car....... it looks like you just glassed over the stock tail. and thats definately a shit job
sound_xtreme
03-19-2007, 03:28 PM
uh, the proper way is to shape and weld in some sheet metal. then mud it.
pimpalero2003
03-19-2007, 04:15 PM
that is true! has it cracked yet
DOHC_tuner
03-20-2007, 12:47 PM
uh, the proper way is to shape and weld in some sheet metal. then mud it.
to be honest yeah i did fiberglass over the stock tailights cause i was waiting for my sheet metal to come home to me from my friends work but he would never bring it so i said fuck it im going to just finish what i started. I was driving around with out the inner tailights for a while so since he never pulled through i just did it OH WELL
Eh_nigma
03-20-2007, 01:28 PM
I know what it's like to get screwed over waiting for things to come in. I would recommend though, as I'm sure others would... think of the glass over the tail lights as only temporary. When you get a chance, finish it up.
DOHC_tuner
03-20-2007, 01:40 PM
I know what it's like to get screwed over waiting for things to come in. I would recommend though, as I'm sure others would... think of the glass over the tail lights as only temporary. When you get a chance, finish it up.
yeah i do want to continue it but right now i am focus on add HP to my lil 4cy block. Right now I got my head in the machine shop getting a vavle job, and Im looking to get the 2.3 HO intake manifold with the 2.4 flange
Eh_nigma
03-20-2007, 01:42 PM
interesting... I'll definately be paying attention to this one for sure...
DOHC_tuner
03-20-2007, 02:15 PM
interesting... I'll definately be paying attention to this one for sure...
what size engine is your project alero?
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