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paulyb
02-24-2008, 10:20 AM
Anyone knowwere to et some racin seats that will fit our factory sliders? Any suggestions on were to get some? Just thinking for some future plans.....thanks.
[ion] C2
02-24-2008, 10:31 AM
I have Otto-R's bought off eBay, $250 shipped.
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/5012102401.jpg
Racin4JC has these kind too, and supposedly they go in real easy. They come with the brackets you need and they bolt on to our stockers simply.
If you have the money, I'd get Tenzo Racing Sport Rally type seats. They're what I was going to get til I found out how nice these were and the price.
http://www.showstoppersusa.com/Images/Tenzobig_seats_rally_grayred.jpg
cherrington17
02-24-2008, 11:03 AM
yo ion, those comfy?
[ion] C2
02-24-2008, 12:23 PM
they are. they make some great gaming seats for now until it gets over 20 degrees so i feel like installing them :)
they also come in all sorts of colors if you don't want to blend in with the stock interior
racin4JC
02-24-2008, 12:32 PM
ions right I have the tenzos and they are very nice seats very well crafted.
However to install them (and most seats) I did have to make a couple little brackets so that they would line up with the stock mounts, so it wasn't a direct bolt up. But if you have some time and some minor metal working skills they are very easy to get to fit (the fronts atleast the backs are another story).
[ion] C2
02-24-2008, 12:47 PM
I thought you had Otto-R, woops. That's cool you got a set of 4.
mfuller
02-24-2008, 02:44 PM
Just about any sport seats will require that you fabricate some brackets to adapt to the factory sliders....or you can bolt them to the floorpan.
Please do not do a competition-style harness (4 or 5-point) unless you have a roll bar or cage in your car.
paulyb
02-24-2008, 03:13 PM
ions right I have the tenzos and they are very nice seats very well crafted.
However to install them (and most seats) I did have to make a couple little brackets so that they would line up with the stock mounts, so it wasn't a direct bolt up. But if you have some time and some minor metal working skills they are very easy to get to fit (the fronts atleast the backs are another story).
Sick interior man...........were did you get your colored carpet from?
[ion] C2
02-24-2008, 03:19 PM
Please do not do a competition-style harness (4 or 5-point) unless you have a roll bar or cage in your car.
what's wrong with 4-pt harnesses? infinitely safer than the cheap lap/shoulder belt. why does it require a cage?
mfuller
02-24-2008, 03:53 PM
C2;338977']what's wrong with 4-pt harnesses? infinitely safer than the cheap lap/shoulder belt. why does it require a cage?
Reason #1
In the event of a rollover your body cannot slide out of the way--as it can with a 3 pt Factory harness.
I guess it all depends how you will use your car and how safety conscious you are.
Reason #2
You want to wrap the harness around the roll bar right behind your seat. The longer the strap ( if you get long ones and bolt to the floor/rear etc.) the more the straps will stretch in an impact.
Reason #3
You do not want to mount the shoulder straps to the floor --the angle will be wrong and can result in additional injuries according to the belt manufacturers.
DO NOT MOUNT ANY LOWER THAN 4" BELOW YOUR SHOULDER LINE!!!!!!!!!!
Could result in spine compression in an accident. Very bad.
Also --harnesses on the street are not all that "easy" to drive with --unless you like being tightly strapped into the seat (forget changing the radio station). If you leave the belts loose--you defeat the safety of the harness--there is not a tensioner on the 4/5/6 pt harnesses.
[ion] C2
02-24-2008, 03:57 PM
Got it. Darn.
racin4JC
02-24-2008, 04:00 PM
Sick interior man...........were did you get your colored carpet from?
I don't remeber the exact company off the top of my head (and can't find reciept), but the color is electric blue, so just search that on google. Mine was all molded to fit so very easy to install once all interior was removed.
YALEROYNOT
02-24-2008, 04:06 PM
i thought about gettin tenzo seats a two tone leather wrapped. I would also do rear buckets too.
http://www.arizenracingsports.com/images/PacificBlue-Ash.jpg
www.arizenracingsports.com (http://www.arizenracingsports.com/page/arizen/CTGY/Seats)
this is a fine looking seat too
http://caragay.net/Sparco/SparcoMilanoBlue.jpg
999 post !!!!
nickbain
02-24-2008, 04:06 PM
http://www.auto-interior.com/extreme.htm
was this the place?
YALEROYNOT
02-24-2008, 04:20 PM
http://www.auto-interior.com/extreme.htm
was this the place?
figure it would be a lot more then $111 I might get new stuff
AJules
02-24-2008, 04:22 PM
But if you have some time and some minor metal working skills they are very easy to get to fit (the fronts atleast the backs are another story).
And if I don't have time or metal working skills, how much should it cost to get someone else to do it?
cherrington17
02-24-2008, 04:47 PM
racinjc... it was my understanding that rear bucket seats couldn't fit, due to height issues....
...or was it that you can't use the rearview mirror....?
how did you get yours to fit?
I've always considered it, since i find the stock seats rather uncomfortable (and i could use a little more leg room) how much metal fab work is required? I guess i'm just looking for more detail on how these "brackets" are made...
racin4JC
02-24-2008, 04:48 PM
Reason #3
You do not want to mount the shoulder straps to the floor --the angle will be wrong and can result in additional injuries according to the belt manufacturers.
DO NOT MOUNT ANY LOWER THAN 4" BELOW YOUR SHOULDER LINE!!!!!!!!!!
Could result in spine compression in an accident. Very bad.
With this one it depends on the seats you have, for example my tenzo seats have an all tubular frame and then steel top where the belts come through. In the case of an impact the force through the belt gets placed on that steel plate and redirected down to the floor.
Do that static analysis on it you will see what I mean..
http://www.auto-interior.com/extreme.htm
was this the place?
That looks like it.
And if I don't have time or metal working skills, how much should it cost to get someone else to do it?
No idea, that would depend on what kind of shop you bring it to and the quality of work they do. I made my own in probably a couple hours, it is the placement of the seats that is the challenging part.
[ion] C2
02-24-2008, 05:20 PM
mine look real easy to do, considering you can place the brackets they came with wherever you want on the bottom of the seat, so i can drill holes and bolt them to the stock sliders no prob
racin4JC
02-24-2008, 06:08 PM
racinjc... it was my understanding that rear bucket seats couldn't fit, due to height issues....
...or was it that you can't use the rearview mirror....?
how did you get yours to fit?
I've always considered it, since i find the stock seats rather uncomfortable (and i could use a little more leg room) how much metal fab work is required? I guess i'm just looking for more detail on how these "brackets" are made...
The rear seats fit fine, the only problem is that if someone slightly taller sits in the back there head is almost touching the ceiling and I have the seats as low to the floor as I could get them. Example I am 5' 10" and my head has about 3/4" clearance when I sit straight up in my back seat. But as far as vision I can see fine between the two with rear view mirror, and my back window is tinted so dark I hardly look through it anyway.
Here is a VERY rough sketch of how I did the driver and passenger brackets. The red ones are the brackets I made and he the others are the stock sliders. And the bottom of my seats just had four bolts that I bolted to the new brackets.
And the back brackets you just have to get very creative. (you can kind of see in photo under the work light)
cherrington17
02-24-2008, 06:14 PM
doesn't seem too bad, as long as you know how to measure, and drill....
Cliff8928
02-25-2008, 12:14 AM
Reason #1
In the event of a rollover your body cannot slide out of the way--as it can with a 3 pt Factory harness.
I guess it all depends how you will use your car and how safety conscious you are.
Reason #2
You want to wrap the harness around the roll bar right behind your seat. The longer the strap ( if you get long ones and bolt to the floor/rear etc.) the more the straps will stretch in an impact.
Reason #3
You do not want to mount the shoulder straps to the floor --the angle will be wrong and can result in additional injuries according to the belt manufacturers.
DO NOT MOUNT ANY LOWER THAN 4" BELOW YOUR SHOULDER LINE!!!!!!!!!!
Could result in spine compression in an accident. Very bad.
Also --harnesses on the street are not all that "easy" to drive with --unless you like being tightly strapped into the seat (forget changing the radio station). If you leave the belts loose--you defeat the safety of the harness--there is not a tensioner on the 4/5/6 pt harnesses.
Oh, and you forgot #4. Unless you have D.O.T. approved Schroth harnesses, they're Illegal to drive on the street because they haven't been tested for safety. I have Schroth Autocontrol ASM harnesses in my beretta which are nice because they have retractors and inertia switches.
[ion] C2
02-25-2008, 12:18 AM
Nice. I want some retractable ones.
Cliff8928
02-25-2008, 01:26 AM
http://english.schroth.com/tuning/produktdetail.php?id=34&id_kat1=1
racin4JC
02-25-2008, 12:13 PM
Those are pretty sweet, but at $230 a piece kind of steep.
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