Push Button Starter?

[m1r4g3_k1d]

So... I know you COULD just turn the key... But I suppose it could be a security feature also. Has anyone done or know anyone who has done a Push Button Starter on their car and how hard would it be to do a setup like that to an Alero... Anyone have a site? (Sorry if there is a thread like this already or if this is in the wrong spot.)


Help plz.
EDIT:

Biometric Access with Starter + Free Installation.

Any thoughts? Here's the link: http://www.automobile-security.com/products.htm

That's interesting seeinf as how they will install it. O_o And it has a starter so I don't have to worry about turning the key and pushing a button. Stick my finger on it and VRROOM!

[Nate's Alero]

Maby you could mod one from a prius or sumthin..of course youd have to find a way around the PASSLOCK so the car will start.

[m1r4g3_k1d]

I've been hearing alot from the Honda S2000 starters. Hmm... Didn't even think about the PASSLOCK.

Has anyone out there done it to their Alero?

[Nate's Alero]

Not that i know of..try this, when your lock cylinder wears out change it then or do research

[[ion] C2]

there's a lot of threads on this as far as i know

[m1r4g3_k1d]

Alright. Well I was also thinking of going Double O 7 on people and doing a Biometric Starter...

http://www.automobile-security.com/products.htm

-- That link sells the thing I'd like to get. Put it in place of the Key lock and such. What do you guys think?

[Nate's Alero]

Umm waste of money, do an exhaust instead!

[m1r4g3_k1d]

LoL. Waste of money...Yes... But, who can really get in your car if you don't want them to?

[Nate's Alero]

true! i mean Stephen01 almost had his car stolen twice! so if you want to go with it then go for it!

[m1r4g3_k1d]

Well maybe the the Biometric safeguard with the Push button startup will be an alright combo. Or just the Biometric safeguard alone.

I must go ponder this more.

[cherrington17]

Not that i know of..try this, when your lock cylinder wears out change it then or do research

i love how the guy whose been here for like a week, is answering everyones threads now like hes an expert. :lol: (i know your dying to contribute, but please... stick around for a little while before you start really diving into these things)

pushbutton starts arent THAT hard to do. you will have to put a resistor inline (to bypass the passlock), and need a handful of relays, to trigger the electric signals to the various components)


Threads discussing this. Last one HAD pics, but apparently they've gone bye-bye.
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21141&highlight=push+button+start
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17331&highlight=push+button+start
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10743&highlight=push+button+start
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14031&highlight=push+button+start

if you want specifics of HOW to do it, message richie (goes by aftermathalero on here) i believe he has the most functional one, and is quite an expert on this higher end, fancy rewiring jobs. Eh_nigma also did one, but hes currently over in the desert blowing stuff up.

you'll need probably 3 switches, if you want to get rid of the ignition cylinder completely. so i'd start by looking for a clever place to hide those, before you get too far with the planning of how.

thats what stopped me from doing this. i can't find a good, hidden, yet easy access location to hide them.

[super white alero1]

Thanks Cherry I didn't feel like saying anything.

[2fst4u]

shouldn't be too bad. agreed with cherry, talk to richie. he'll get you set straight.
on a side note, wouldn't he only need the push button, not switches if he were keeping the lock cylinder? not sure. worth a shot. see what aftermath says.

[Kilroy]

i love how the guy whose been here for like a week, is answering everyones threads now like hes an expert. :lol:

So you figure that just because you've been on this forum longer than someone else, you automatically know more than someone with less time? Maybe this guy has been a GM mechanic for twenty years??

[lonnie]

So you figure that just because you've been on this forum longer than someone else, you automatically know more than someone with less time? Maybe this guy has been a GM mechanic for twenty years??That may be true.(being a mechanic).but doesn't mean he's right! Thats not to say that Cherry is right as well but he makes a very good point.

[JOEY GLADSTONE]

i posted up a whole wiring diagram of a keyless push start for our cars but richie told me to take it down ;)

[m1r4g3_k1d]

Sweet. I'll talk to him. I edited this and put a link to a Biometric starter and door lock. That seems interesting also and with it having free installation to boot it could be better than the push starter.

[cherrington17]

So you figure that just because you've been on this forum longer than someone else, you automatically know more than someone with less time? Maybe this guy has been a GM mechanic for twenty years??

i didn't mean it as an insult, (and i know for a fact that nate's alero had some good comments about the transmission of another member that i wouldn't have known)

but in this instance, theres plenty of previous about this, and he clearly didn't know about it. I'm just saying, if your THAT new, admit it and don't make it seem like your knowledge is the entirity of the board.

[Nate's Alero]

So you figure that just because you've been on this forum longer than someone else, you automatically know more than someone with less time? Maybe this guy has been a GM mechanic for twenty years??

Thanks, have had some experience with push button starters (not a mechanic yet) going to school to be one! My brothers Lexus has a push button starter that has always had problems and he always needs it to be fixed (he is too cheap to go to a Mechanic
But he usually calls on me to come and see whets wrong (usually a loose wire
The cars a lemon!)

[Nate's Alero]

Not saying that im right!

[JOEY GLADSTONE]

it sounds like none of you know what your talking about in this thread haha.

[[ion] C2]

a push button start isn't going to increase security

the ultimate security system:
- fuel pump cutoff
- starter cutoff
- hood pins
- dual batteries with hard to find wires
- train horn output for alarm
- tilt sensors
- impact sensors
- glass breakage sensors
- shaved door handles (can't jimmy it open or whatever)
- if glass breakage is detected, output to side flamethrowers from under the side skirt area
- two way notification alarm fob along with cell phone message sending as well

No one is stealing it then. If anything happens, you are notified instantly and get to come say hi and/or call the cops. If they try to tow it, the train horn will sound due to the tilt/impact sensors and you will be notified. People will notice. You will notice.

If someone attempts to break in and drive it away or just steal whatever's inside your car, they can't get the doors open by conventional means, which leaves them only one option: to break the window. The instant the impact/glass breakage sensors feel this, the alarm sounds, you are notified, and they get roasted via the side aimed flamethrowers.

If somehow they make it in, albeit on fire and hurt, the alarm will still sound, the starter is disabled, the fuel pump is disabled (and hard to get to since it's under the car near the tank. The hood has hood pins so they will not be able to pop it to find and figure out how to disable the starter cutoff and/or the alarm output (which has a separate battery hidden).

It will take too much time and make too much noise and you will be there with a shotgun to their face before they get a chance to even come remotely close to getting away. It's flawless.

[lonnie]

next project remote kill switch. Will disconnect the ignition with the push of a button, or better yet you could use a DTMF encoder/decoder and use it to disable it over the CB Band that way no matter where they are you could disable the car in the push of a few buttons on a hand held CB if they have those on that frequency.............

Actually thats a little to much..I'll remain quiet the remainer of this thread LOL....maybe!

[m1r4g3_k1d]

C2;351672']a push button start isn't going to increase security

the ultimate security system:
- fuel pump cutoff
- starter cutoff
- hood pins
- dual batteries with hard to find wires
- train horn output for alarm
- tilt sensors
- impact sensors
- glass breakage sensors
- shaved door handles (can't jimmy it open or whatever)
- if glass breakage is detected, output to side flamethrowers from under the side skirt area
- two way notification alarm fob along with cell phone message sending as well

No one is stealing it then. If anything happens, you are notified instantly and get to come say hi and/or call the cops. If they try to tow it, the train horn will sound due to the tilt/impact sensors and you will be notified. People will notice. You will notice.

If someone attempts to break in and drive it away or just steal whatever's inside your car, they can't get the doors open by conventional means, which leaves them only one option: to break the window. The instant the impact/glass breakage sensors feel this, the alarm sounds, you are notified, and they get roasted via the side aimed flamethrowers.

If somehow they make it in, albeit on fire and hurt, the alarm will still sound, the starter is disabled, the fuel pump is disabled (and hard to get to since it's under the car near the tank. The hood has hood pins so they will not be able to pop it to find and figure out how to disable the starter cutoff and/or the alarm output (which has a separate battery hidden).

It will take too much time and make too much noise and you will be there with a shotgun to their face before they get a chance to even come remotely close to getting away. It's flawless.

JEEZ! lol - Side skirt flamethrowers? Who installs those! I want some lol. (Actually that would be tight to have at a push of a button when you are about to floor it BAAM!) Guys would be stunned. And skurred. I might try to do some of that stuff ;) lol

[Vinalero]

That makes me think, what happened to Grim?

[sleepybastard]

This reminds me of a project I helped a friend of mine with. He created a custom security system for his car that would text his cell phone if any of the sensors (tilt/vibration/glass break) were tripped. He could also disable the fuel pump, starter, and battery with a text back. Also included was remote arming/disarming of alarm, starting of the car from the phone, and gps tracking of the car at all times. The only thing missing is the flame thrower by the doors.

[Vinalero]

This reminds me of a project I helped a friend of mine with. He created a custom security system for his car that would text his cell phone if any of the sensors (tilt/vibration/glass break) were tripped. He could also disable the fuel pump, starter, and battery with a text back. Also included was remote arming/disarming of alarm, starting of the car from the phone, and gps tracking of the car at all times. The only thing missing is the flame thrower by the doors.


That would require him to pay for another monthly paid cellphone line only for his car. Still I see this being really possible, and I guess its not that hard having a programming background. Only downside is the fact it doesn't work if your car is out of cellphone wave

Sounds cool.

[[ion] C2]

South Africa is rampant with carjackings, many have had flamethrowers mounted under the sides of their cars with a button near the pedals in case some guy feels like getting roasted.