Damned neons

[Vtolds]

I got beet twice by a Dodge neon SOHC :angry: tell me what you think about this.

[3.4Alero]

Yikes! What engine do you have? Were you at a 1/4 mile or 1/8 mile track?

[Alerosince99]

What mods do you have, what mods did the neon have?

[flalero]

Yeah, what they said! You shouldn't be getting beat by any Neon, unless it's the SRT-4 or one that's heavily modded.

[Silentalero]

even so the srt-4 would take a stock alero anyday

[Alerosince99]

even so the srt-4 would take a stock alero anyday

haha :lol:


srt-4 13ish vs alero 16.1.

[Naich]

srt-4's whoop most cars' asses.

[Vtolds]

I have no mods and a 2.4 liter with a auto not my pick for a trans but the neon was definetly a base model four door as far as could tell it had a exhaust so it probably had a intake and It was on a 1/8 mile track and I stuck right on his ass but he was getting me of the line my brother had a neon that was known to take down berettas with the 3100 so I never under estimate them but I should have beet it.

[fiestyalerogirl81]

U LET A NEON BEAT YOU..........WHAT WERE U THINKING. THAT OTHER GUY CHEATED!

[jackal2000]

that sucks dude, my 3.4 v6 (jackal) takes my buddies 2001 firebird v6 5 speed damn near every time off the line. granted he has me on the open freeway because i still have the governor, but redlight to redlight its usually all me. shake it off and better luck next time.

[alerov6]

I hate neons the only one I would ever buy is the srt-4

[crazykid]

i've seen some pretty NICE looking neons around here that had a lot of work done to them..... actually made me have some respect for them.. never used to like em though

[fiestyalerogirl81]

i would never ever buy a neon, or would i let my husband( if i ever decided to get married)

[crazykid]

yeah but.. who would want to marry you? ;)

[bdyman]

^^^^^^now that`s funny, ya i agree with the rest of the guys neon`s are damn fast little cars srt-4=whoop ur ass

[fiestyalerogirl81]

LOL. I wouldnt want to marry myself either. Neons suck!

[Oldsman]

well i had a 95 neon with the SOHC motor, 5spd. Stock it ran 16.67 in the 1/4 after rapid fire plugs, CAI, ported TB it ran 16.43.

One thing you have to remember is the neon only weighs 2400 lbs. they have a lot better power to weight ratio than the alero.

A stock 2.4 auto alero runs high 16's so yes the neon should get ya by just a little.

[crazykid]

damn thats just sad.. oh well my car looks better haha

[StealthAlero]

Originally posted by alerov6@Nov 21 2003, 02:41 PM
I hate neons the only one I would ever buy is the srt-4
That's because SRT-4's are not neons :P

[flalero]

yeah, but they are still ugly! Ever looked at one from the back or front, just too damn skinny and tall. They should have made them wider.

[johny_boy32]

oh no...all you bashing the SRT-4's...i like em'...i think they are hot looking and you can buy a lot of aftermarket crap for em'. I almost joined in with my g/f to buy one. It was between the SRT-4 and the new Stratus. I was all happy and poop...figured I could mod out a new car and she comes over to my house after work one night and descides we don't need to spend money on another car when we both already have a really good one that works. She has a prix and you all obviously know what i have.. Blew my week right out the window.

[Oldsman]

i like the SRT-4. i think it looks good and the exhaust sounds sweet. the interior could be better but you aren't buying a $30,000 car here.

215 hp, 13.9 @ 101 in the 1/4. the GTO is what350hp, 13.2-13.6 @ 104. So not far behind the new GTO and for $14,000 less.

For the performance and under $20,000 you can't beat it.

[Alerosince99]

Thought the 2004 got a power increase to 240hp stock? Either way I wouldnt mind owning one in the least!

[Oldsman]

last i saw was 215 and that was in the latest issue of autoweek i think. I know that back when the SRT-4 came out, sport compact did a dyno on it and it produced 215hp to the wheels.

[3.4Alero]

/\ /\ Yea, a lot of car magazines said that Dodge GROSSLY underestimated HP of the SRT-4. So they probably didn't actually do anything to it for 2004, just reported what it was actually making!

[Alerosince99]

I know I read it somewhere. I was off it is actually 230 for 2004.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectc...10scc_projneon/ (http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0310scc_projneon/)

[crazykid]

*points to the new alero, ex-neon owner* -> http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=414

[Final-Reality]

Originally posted by StealthAlero@Nov 22 2003, 08:43 PM
That's because SRT-4's are not neons :P
Uhm, so if you strap a turbo on an Alero, is it no longer an Alero? :rolleyes:

Anyways... yeah for the 2004 model the SRT-4 had no real changes to the engine but they reported its horsepower more realistically, also, often for turbocharged engines, power output can vary by like 10HP between cars, ESPECIALLY at the wheels, as things like air temperature (density) and type of dyno can change the output more so than on NA cars...

[jabartram]

Good point anout adding a turbo, it is still a neon, badge or not, was attempting to buy one but dodge pissed me off. found my Alero and have been very happy since! A question, are neons our rival? or are we in a class all on our own? I'm running a 3.4 auto, and I mess with the V8 stangs and camaro's, it really gets to them when they can't just walk away from me, and they find out its still stock!! wait till I install the supercharger! and in the corners they cant touch me!

[Alerosince99]

srt-4s are really a sport compact which typically on the domestic side include cavy's, sunfires, focus, ect.

We probably would more likely be compared to camry's, accords. I think we are part of the midsize...whatever those definitions mean.

Personally I would group us against anything with a v6. <shrug>

[Redog]

:pissed: A NEON BEAT YOU!!! All chrsyler cars and trucks suck ass. I hate Neons most of all. Something doesn't sound right about that.

I haven't seen a SRT yet but I beat a Turbo PT Cruiser and a Turbo Neon. I guess those guys wasted $30,000 hard earned dollars, but it serves them right for buying a poopy car.

Take a look at my web page and see exaclty what I think of all Chrsyler's cars. (this includes Mitsu, Eagle, and Jeep)

www.cardomain.com/id/evilredog

[johny_boy32]

sorry to jack the tread but your car is awesome redog

[Alerosince99]

Out of curiosity with all the mods you have listed you only ran a 15.86 1/4? or did this come before the mods?

[3.4Alero]

The SRT-4 is NOT simply a Neon with a turbo strapped to it. They upgraded most of the internals, plus suspension, wheel / tire, transmission, and intake / exhaust upgrades. But I agree, it IS still a Neon, until you change the body and it no longer looks like a Neon.

I would take one if someone wanted to give me one, but I don't think I would buy one.

[Redog]

No I ran 15.86 after the mods. I was a bit disappointed with that too.

[Alerosince99]

hmmm...you should be running low 15s with that setup.

Could of just been a bad day at the track.

[Redog]

:wah: I saw another Alero w/3.4liter the same day and he ran 15.3. My car is needes an alignment really bad. It started pulling about half way down. I just ordered new tires and I will be getting an alignment then.

[Vtolds]

you guys no nothing about neons or srt-4's to start with. neons are essentally the same as srt-4's but the the body and drive train is different. Dodge used the pt criuser motor the 2.4 liter with a mitsubishi turbo on it dodge has a long history of using mitubishi parts and cars and slapping the dodge badge on it. Like the mitsubishi 3000 gt is the same as dodge stealth but the stealth body was based on a intrepid concept. and the mitsubishi mirage early 90's dodge and chrylser and eagle all used that car with diferent names but same motor and ervything. but there is one difference between what they did this time than before dodge ran that same 2.4 liter turbo motor in all of the dodge avengers sent to mexico instead of the v6 which we got in america or the dinky 4 banger. plus the the srt-4 is commonly called the dodge neon srt-4. plus theres more dodge was actually rally racinf the dodge neon srt-4 in rally a year before anybody ever got to by one from show rooms. how ever much you hate them you are never going to find a more capable car for less than 20,000 dollars any where even japan.it is the second fastest dodge car ever biult next to the viper. and the 2004 version has 230 hp and 250 lb/ft of torque. an these are 0-60's top speed and quater miles from 2 magazines.

Car and Driver: 0-60 in 5.6 seconds, top speed 153 mph

Sport Compact Car: 5.8 seconds, quarter mile 14.2 seconds

not sure for what year this is 2004 or 03 but that is very fast for the price. :P

[jabartram]

Sorry but i'm down on dodge they seem to think their cars are gold plated, I looked at a srt4, before I purchased my Alero, and they wouldn't let me test drive one, and they tried to tell me it was gonna run me 21,995.00 when the sticker said 19,995.00 I asked the sales person why he added 2000.00 to the price, and he never gave me a real answer, so I nicely explained that me nor anybody in my family will ever buy a chrysler product again, and walked out, went down the street and purchased my Alero the next day! To hell with NEON srt4's.



Road and track had a tuner challenge, and the srt4 neon 2.4 turbo motor

BLEW UP !!!!!!!!

[Vtolds]

the reasin why they would not let you test drive it is because you are probably a young kid and they probably wanted to atleast now that you could afford the car my uncle is the sales manager of a dodge dealer and he would not even let me drive it. and did you ever think the car was goin to cost 22,000 dollars ever think of tax , title and reg

[Aleromaster]

I have heard a lot Of problems with dodge. My folks had problems as well trying to test drive a new Ram when they came out. They ended up Buying one but I went into the shop 4 times for the same problem and they didn't want to honor the lemon law. They Said that they had a few problemswith the the same thing in other trucks which was the steering. Rack and pinion in a truck is junk. They said Dodge was going to recall it as soon as they would figure out how to fix it but my parents didn't want it. After bringing a lawer into it they finaly said they where going to buy the truck back so my folks bought a new GMC to replace it. Unfortunatly the Dodge sat for 6 months before Chrysler sent them a check and even thenthey tried to short change them 3 grand. The manager of the dealership they went to to;d my fgather to *uck off and never to return. None of my family will ever buy a chrysler product again and no chrysler products are alowed in my faters driveway. There's my experiance with dodge.

[jabartram]

well lets see i'm 34 and the sticker price including ttl and destination charge was 19,995.00 and i had my 9 yr old son with me, so he didn't have to worry about me tryin to hotrod it, there are no excuses to be made for chrysler they just think that they don't stink, and i say PEW, but i'm only one opinion.

[gxryan]

lol yah they are a funny looking thing, i was looking at buyin a neon but the SRT-4 was a bit outta my price range and the lease price was HUGE i could get a Grand Prix GTP for the same lease price. So I took a walk over to the chevy Dealer and found my Alero :)


http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/563172

[JonE]

Whats going on. Had to respond to this thread since my friend owns an 03 srt4.

Basically the real difference in the 03 and 04 model is the 04 has the stage 1 injectors computer and has a LSD. Yes it does produce more power than 03 but my friend sinks like all his free cash into his car. His has 317 trq and 290 hp round abouts. Currentlly he is running a 13.4 1/4 mile time. His car with just a k&n insert dynoed 240 hp and i fogot the torque, thats on his 03.

As for my alero I bought a 2003 2.2 ecotec. Being a previous cavalier owner I really wanted the ecotec motor. Mods galore. THe v6 was the same engine in the pontiac transports and luminas that i have seen and always have expensive problems down the road. But any way I have this thing about giving my friends srt a good run and i know my 75 shot wont do it. Thinking about that Hahn Racekraft turbo setup. Anybody have thoughts or warning on this.

[Crispus]

I don't know how they do it, but a 4 dr bubble style kNeon got mid 15's with "exhaust and intake". But they are light I believe.

[BLK03GXS]

Despite the track performance of the srt-4 dodge/chrysler has a history of making disposable cars, that the bottem line... anyone remember the K car :rolleyes:

I dont know about Naich.. or the rest of the admin section.. but some one should put in a edit so that dodge/neon/chrysler = GARBAGE B) ...not only that.. but my moms boss had her jeep in for service at the local dodge dealer...
$95, an hour :( .. for shop rate... thats rediculous

[vodkaslut85]

heres a story for you guys, I was driving back from the milwaukee summerfest, back when I had my camaro and I actually had an srt-4 stick with me for a couple miles goin' about 140 miles an hour (it was 3 in the morning and I have a valentine radar detector. ;)) I know he had a turbo under the hood cuz I heard the blow off valve go off but he didn't stick that long after I started spraying ;)

[Pimpalero03]

well ur the coolest^

[wy3134]

JonE, I also have an ecotec and looking into turbo project...the Hahn kit looks nice, check out exploited racing as well...just remember your gonna have to do some upgrading to the tranny and perhaps the axels? Keep me updated if you come across anything, like tunes for an ecotec setup, etc...as for the SRT-4, nice car, looks like its on steroids with how the back sits so high, I definetely wouldnt mind one, but looks like im stuck with an alero for a good time coming unless something in the near future alters that.

[Aleromaster]

Originally posted by BLK03GXS@Apr 3 2004, 06:00 PM


I dont know about Naich.. or the rest of the admin section.. but some one should put in a edit so that dodge/neon/chrysler = GARBAGE B)
I like that idea :lol:

[boostnsrt]

ok guys, you have to think about some things there is a sleeper neon built from '94 to '99. looks like a 4 dr base mosel with foglight holes but no foglights. it is the acr model. acr for american club racer. came with a slightly modified sohc or dohc 2.0, full adjustable suspension, high flow exuast, high flow intake, mopar goodies all over. the sohc stock made 140 fwhp and 155 lb ft. the dohc made 150 fwhp and 160 lb ft the car was also very light with no ac or stereo equip. weighing aroun 2100lbs. cars ran low 15s from the factory that way. my 98 neon r/t from the factory was set up the same way except it had ac and stereo equipment. the car had a high rev limit aroun 8k and handled great. my 98 ran mid 15's from factory. it weighed a little more at 2400lbs. these cars are very easy to modify and make fast a few days of tweaking on the dyno and mapping the ecu with no other mods than stock. i managed a 188 fwhp and 197 lb ft of torque. after that i put on a cold air intake and full header and exhuast system, underdrive pulleys, and nology wire and plug set and was runnin very fast, all of these mods are hard to see with just the naked eye, so imagine if this guy had any kind of internal mods. these cars have a ton of mods that can be performed. just look at howellautomotive.com or modernperformance.com and you'll see testaments of 12 second naturally aspirated neons.

[boostnsrt]

heres another thing to think about, i dont think i have ever met a dodge fan that didnt own a gm or ford product that wasnt a peice of shit, ive never met a gm fan that didnt own a ford or chrysler product that wasnt a peice of shit, ive never met a ford fan that didnt own a gm or chrysler product that wasnt a peice of shit, ive never met a import fan........................get the picture. ive owned fords chryslers and gm's and imports. ive owned gm, ford, chrysler and import peices of shit. the only vehicles never to give me any problem was my 98 neon r/t, my 98 honda cbr 600, and my 2005 impala patrol car. and currently my 01 alero. but ive only had it about a month

[b-spot]

Thread Jesus has resurected though thread!

Praise ye Thread Jesus

[Coldfire]

/\ lol lol

Check the dates of the thread before you post boostnsrt, it's okay you're a noob ;)

[Coldfire]

By the way, your old neon actually ain't bad

[boostnsrt]

holy shit!!!! i'll use the noob excuse

[Vtolds]

This may actually be the very first topic I ever started. This is a very historic piece of internet history lol.

[jackal2000]

This may actually be the very first topic I ever started. This is a very historic piece of internet history lol.

lol my post on the first page has noob all over it. its funny how we progress over the years/posts. IIRC this thread was created just a couple days after the board crashed so i had been on here all of a week.