Just out of curiousity

[Valley olds]

Can you make the 2.0 L ecotec supercharger work with the Alero's 2.2 L Ecotec. This is just out of curiousity, cus I would one day, in the near future, like to SC my car, but dont have the cash yet.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/COBALT-ECOTEC-EATON-M62-SUPERCHARGER-LOW-PRICE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3 a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q 2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem310085600266QQitemZ3100856002 66

^Ive already seen a couple of these on E Bay

[KenshinZero]

As far as I know there almost identical, but I don’t know for sure.

[Valley olds]

Ive heard that too, I dont know if you could make it work with the alero's PCM though.

[KenshinZero]

The pcm I think you need to get a re-flash, but that’s with the 2.4 I think they are the same though, but like i said befor im not sure.

[Valley olds]

Yup, youd probably have to reflash it too. Also, Im thinking, if you need to compensate for the extra .2 liter the 2.2l Alero has, compared to the 2.0l you'd probably have to switch pulleys. Just a theory though, I dont really know much about this stuff.

[heineck]

ive been lookin into this too its possible but the pulley belt for the m62 is 6 rib and the l61 is only 5 and the head bolts on the lsj intake mani are shorter i think

[KenshinZero]

Same here, I don’t know much about boost, and boost tuning, my thing is N/A and suspension

[Vic28]

No GM reflash for the ecotec on Alero. Even if you buy just the SC you would be missing whole lots of parts that are kinda hard to get. Take a look at the picture in this site as reference http://www.crateenginedepot.com/store/Ecotec-22L-CavalierSunfire-Supercharger-Kit-17800003-P1377C41.aspx. The kit would fit our car, but has to be custom tune.

[Vinalero]

Anyways, theres no Dealer tune for the 2.2 ecotec for any SC, so whatever SC kit you put in there, you need to custom tune it.

[Cliff8928]

Anyways, theres no Dealer tune for the 2.2 ecotec for any SC, so whatever SC kit you put in there, you need to custom tune it.

That is unless it's a cavalier or sunfire.

[KenshinZero]

That is unless it's a cavalier or sunfire. What’s the difference? The sunfire and cavi have the same 2.2L motor. Just wondering because I don’t know much on this subject.:lol:

[Cliff8928]

It all has to do with emissions certification and other legal stuff.

[KenshinZero]

So the factory "could" tune it but will not do to legal reasons?

[Cliff8928]

They probably don't want to invest in EPA certifications for the supercharger due to perceived minimal sales.

[heineck]

but cant we take it to like any dyno shop and have them tune it?

[guiguilandry]

yeah you can also take hptuner and tune it by yourself

[Valley olds]

KenshinZero: What’s the difference? The sunfire and cavi have the same 2.2L motor. Just wondering because I don’t know much on this subject

Maybe something in the pcm. I say this because when looking at the supercharger kit, it said they could only reflash the cavalier or sunfire. The reflash, they said, wont work on other cars with the 2.2L. I thought it was the same thing too though.

[KenshinZero]

Maybe something in the pcm. I say this because when looking at the supercharger kit, it said they could only reflash the cavalier or sunfire. The reflash, they said, wont work on other cars with the 2.2L. I thought it was the same thing too though.
So, then you would either tune the stock computer or get one from the sunfire or cavi, then it would depend on the cost?

[Cliff8928]

Well, you can't just plop in a J-Body computer and expect it to work right.. There are some minor differences.

The Alero has inputs and outputs for a few things the J-Body doesn't have...

1) Clutch Pedal Position signal (manual trans)

2) Ignition 0 Voltage Input

3) High Speed Cooling fan control

The J-Body also has an additional Class 2 Data line going from the PCM to the EBCM for whatever reason. The Alero distributes Class 2 data in the left IP Fuse block. That probably wouldn't make much difference.

[heineck]

how much do u think it would be to tune it?

[Cliff8928]

To drop it off at a shop with a dyno and tuner? probably like $500.

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

I think it would be worth the money though if you have the extra cash laying around, I would do it just to see how many people would accuse me of having some dumb ricer mod, and also to get the whole "WTF that's a fast alero" comments not many people would think of an alero being a boostable car.

[KenshinZero]

I think it would be worth the money though if you have the extra cash laying around, I would do it just to see how many people would accuse me of having some dumb ricer mod, and also to get the whole "WTF that's a fast alero" comments not many people would think of an alero being a boostable car.
Anything is boost-able, I once attempted to boost my moped, with a hair dryer, I maybe got a 1 hp gain, lol

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

Anything is boost-able, I once attempted to boost my moped, with a hair dryer, I maybe got a 1 hp gain, lol

yeah but around here people just wouldn't think of someone boosting something out of the norm, oh and you would likely get better gains with a leaf blower compaired to a hair dryer, but you would look rather stupid with either lol.

[Valley olds]

KenshinZero: Anything is boost-able, I once attempted to boost my moped, with a hair dryer, I maybe got a 1 hp gain, lol

lol, you should have intercooled it

[NickAlero2000]

hahaha intercooled a hair dryer
reduce the heat soak lol

[heineck]

i dont see how a super would be ricer mod most hondas and crap are all turbo-ed not super-ed, i mean its all the same just a different route of forced induct. but i just dont see a sc as a ricer thing

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

^ i was referring to those stupid sound things you see on ebay that make cars sound like they are turboed with the whole blow off valve sound.

[heineck]

haha turbo whistles do those things even work? i thought it was a joke till i saw em online

[KenshinZero]

yeah but around here people just wouldn't think of someone boosting something out of the norm, oh and you would likely get better gains with a leaf blower compaired to a hair dryer, but you would look rather stupid with either lol. I didn't have a leaf blower, and I never thought to hook up an intercooler :lol: