new tires heavier

[irondiezl3]

getting new tires. they are 4 pounds heavier each tire. does that affect hp or pickup?

[alerored04]

Technically yes but you won't notice it.

[irondiezl3]

how the hell do smaller tires weigh more? just depends on construction and material i suppose?

[AleroB888]

getting new tires. they are 4 pounds heavier each tire. does that affect hp or pickup?

4 pounds per tire is a lot.

I would notice it. That's why I got Sumitomo tires. :)

[MixtapeMessiah]

what kinda tires are they and what size

[irondiezl3]

now before u judge the brand name read the reviews i want them the reviews r completely insane plus i love the brand ive had them before but ok here goes, right now i have goodyear integrity which r amazing tires but the dealer when i bought it in feb last year put the wrong size on they are too big. so right now is a great time for me to get new tires and my friend needs the size i have now anyway so im selling them to my friend and getting new ones heres what im getting these are 4 pounds heavier each crazy to me,

sorry about punctuation im so lazy im workin on it :)


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Altimax+HP&partnum=16HR5AMAXHP&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=6&speed_rating=S&speed_rating=T&speed_rating=U&speed_rating=H&speed_rating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&speed_rating=(Y)&minSpeedRating=S

[MixtapeMessiah]

dudeeeee nooooooo, generals are garbage! hense why there heavy tires

[MixtapeMessiah]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Bridgestone&tireModel=Potenza+RE960AS+Pole+Position&partnum=16HR5RE960PP&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes&place=1

By far the best all season tire u can get bro

[irondiezl3]

those r even heavier lol and alot more expensive look at all the people who have those generals what they say

[MixtapeMessiah]

and look at all the people who rank the bridgestones higher, they arent heavy at all, I put them on infinitis all the time because people dont wanna pay the money for good years. If u truely want a good tire bridgestone is the way to go bro...15 bucks more a tire aint bad at all considering ur getting 15's...

[irondiezl3]

o i didnt know you have personally used them before on cars. what do you like about them so much?

[MixtapeMessiah]

I work for Infiniti bro and mostly they all come with good years, but ur lucky to get 25k miles out of them, good tire dont get me wrong but the bridgestone potenzas I showed u are cheaper then the good years and are just a good all round all reason tire. I have experience with generals and lets just say ur gonna have tons of tire noise coming from them. Remember cheaper doesnt always mean better, u get what u pay for. Go with bridgestones

[Gr1m]

it has a lot to do with rotating mass and physics

[MixtapeMessiah]

and plus ur worried about 4 extra pounds on a stock 15 inch rim? come on now bro. 215/60/15 weigh nothing, u can throw those hoes like frisbees 100 feet out...even if u had like 18's or dubs I still wouldnt worry inless ur rims way like 50 lbs...

[tw0123]

dont get the generals... i had them on a contour, yes i know p.o.s., but it was what i had to drive... anyways, the belts shifted in 3 of my 4 tires... within 20k... warranty was for 100k... and they only credited me for the 80k of the warranty that was left on the tires... total b.s. i now have the potenza's, they are good, and have lasted much longer than the goodyear's the car originally came with... good luck if you get the generals...

[CactusWill]

Altimax are the shit, hands down. I don't care if they are heavier or not, they've saved my life many times already.

[irondiezl3]

cactus u like them how do they do on treadlife? all the reviews are like what you are saying. every single one they have got to be good i heard they look sporty to. id love to hear what you think of them all together

[Redog]

General tires are made in Korea and are just garbage.

Be sure that the tires you buy are made here in the States. Tires made in Mexico are just like anything else made there. (Like the front tires on My Delta 205-75-14's and made in Mexico, they were louder than the rears and they were 235-60-14's and made here. Same tread too. :wacko: )

[MixtapeMessiah]

potenza's FTW

[irondiezl3]

i want the quitest most comfy tire possible

[TheMeaningOfLife]

Get a set of Kumho's i miss mine something fierce.

[MixtapeMessiah]

potenza's FTW

bump again

I to have kumhos on my but not the smoothest thanks to the 225/45/18's I have, but once I got a taste of my first oklahoma ice storm I realized they were horrible

[CactusWill]

cactus u like them how do they do on treadlife? all the reviews are like what you are saying. every single one they have got to be good i heard they look sporty to. id love to hear what you think of them all together

I've got 15k on mine so far and based on that, they will probably last about 40k miles but I also drive the shit out of them. Overall tho, they're by far the best tires I've ever bought. And yes the tread is sweet.



General tires are made in Korea and are just garbage.

That may be the case for some of them but absolutely do not knock the altimax until you try them.

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

potenza's FTW
I had the Potenza ZR-i's on my car. they are freakin awesome on wet pavement...but absolutely terrible in the snow.
if you drive in the snow, get something else for the snow. if you don't, Potenza > *

[MixtapeMessiah]

I had the Potenza ZR-i's on my car. they are freakin awesome on wet pavement...but absolutely terrible in the snow.
if you drive in the snow, get something else for the snow. if you don't, Potenza > *

Yea exactly, we just had a ice storn here in oklahoma and my kuhmos are horrible...I tried to turn and I kept going straight and hit a curb goin about 15 mph. fucked my inner and outer tie rod up on the pass. side...so if u live somewhere where it snows u get a snow tire or all season tire atleast..Potenza's FTW none the less

[TheMeaningOfLife]

Well mine where kumho ecsta(sp?) track tires. they were 245/45/17's and they rode nice drove nice handled nice but like its been stated they dont like snow. you plow more snow then the accual trucks do as big as they were

[kwhauck]

I know what you mean, I had 255/40/17 kumho ecsta when my car was driven year round

Now I am waiting for these to come out for my next tires, max performance summer only wet/dry, they have been getting a lot of rave reviews..

http://www.nittotire.com/#index%2Etire%2Ent05

[MixtapeMessiah]

Well mine where kumho ecsta(sp?) track tires. they were 245/45/17's and they rode nice drove nice handled nice but like its been stated they dont like snow. you plow more snow then the accual trucks do as big as they were

I have kuhmo ecstas 225/45/18 summer only tires on mine and here in okc we just had an ice storm this morning, and I was literally 40 feet away from my garage door and I tried to turn going slower than shit on some ice and I just kept going straight, you can forget about brakes and wham hit a curb and busted my inner tie rod...no matter how good ur tire is it still aint no match for ice...inless u got chains on

[cherrington17]

Yea exactly, we just had a ice storn here in oklahoma and my kuhmos are horrible...I tried to turn and I kept going straight and hit a curb goin about 15 mph. effed my inner and outer tie rod up on the pass. side...so if u live somewhere where it snows u get a snow tire or all season tire atleast..Potenza's FTW none the less

dunlop graspic ftw!

i can't drift on snow, even if i try...

[MixtapeMessiah]

for dry and wet conditions potenzas ftw..

as for snow get a snow tire, as for ice were all screwed cuz no tire is good on straight ice...I know my kuhmos failed horribly for me today

[alerored04]

Mixtape you are blowing this storm out of proportion. I am in OKC right now, compared to MN this is a slush storm. My Neo Gen's are working fine today. I had potenza G009's. They were bad in the winter in ND but managable. Nothing like my new Dunlop winter tires.

[MixtapeMessiah]

alerored Im from El Paso, TX u think we have ice storms down there? Nah bro

As for the whole tire issue, if ur up north and are in actual winters where it snows get winter tires and if ur from the desert like I am you dont need winter tires obviously. If you read I was talking about the potenzas being a good dry and rain tire, and after that I said if u are in an area with snow or ice..get a winter tire or chains...enough said

[alerored04]

You did not understand me. I am currently in OKC with my Nitto NeoGen's on my 18"s. They work well here because this really isn't that bad. At home my snow tires are necessary but in an area like this you can honestly get by on summer tires if you are careful. I even did two winters in north dakota on potenza's and a little caution goes a long way.

[AleroB888]

I use Kumhos, too, on the front.....
since no matter what I put on there, they are burned off in 6 months, anyway. :lol:

I go light, and go cheap.

[MixtapeMessiah]

u still dont get the point, Im from the DESERT we dont have ice storms so u act like I know how to drive it in, this is getting way too far off point I believe I was talkin to irondiezl3 about not getting generals and letting him know bridgestone are the best route to go for what hes lookin for..

If u wanna get off point Im sure we can do that as well..my kuhmos suck ass on ice enough said again

[Cliff8928]

General tires are made in Korea and are just garbage.

Be sure that the tires you buy are made here in the States. Tires made in Mexico are just like anything else made there. (Like the front tires on My Delta 205-75-14's and made in Mexico, they were louder than the rears and they were 235-60-14's and made here. Same tread too. :wacko: )

LOL. Did you not even look at the link that was posted? Those generals are made in the US.

[irondiezl3]

yea they are us tires for sure. lol which scares me. screw that as far as im concerned everything from overseas is amazing. idk i think im going to try the altimax i mean how can 313 people who give these tires a 9 or higher out of 10 be lying right? besides i drive a alero not a vet you know? only thing that concerns me is what cactus said about the 40,000k they have the altimax rt which is just a little harder to i assume last longer. but shit man my shitty goodyear integritys are over a year old have 21k by me and are 8/10. granted i rotate them every three months and drive like a old lady but still i bet im gunna miss that having a tire basically not wear down. then again they fckn drive like sh*t i feel every bump and rougher than hell and loud to.



is there anyone that would be willing who has the 2156015 that would be willing to quick snap a front shot of the wheel and post it here?

[CactusWill]

only thing that concerns me is what cactus said about the 40,000k they have the altimax rt which is just a little harder to i assume last longer.


The thing is tho, that pretty much all tires actually wear faster than what they say. The tread warranty is just a sales tactic and if the tires don't actually last that long, then you get partial credit towards buying a new set from the same manufacturer, which is exactly what tiremakers want.

is there anyone that would be willing who has the 2156015 that would be willing to quick snap a front shot of the wheel and post it here?


Its getting dark now but I'll try to do it tomorrow or friday.

[irondiezl3]

o man ud be the best considering im gettin those id love that. just got a email from general. he stated to me if i want the most comftorable ride get the rts which are basically identicle to hps just few minor differences. he said hps while still give a great ride have harder sidewalls for better control and performance like steering. where the rts have softer sidewalls and possibly a slight addition in comfy ride. he summed it up with basically the hp has a few extra features and slight better handling with minimal difference in comfort loss. bottom line if u have same car as me and u say they are good thats about all i need to know.

[CactusWill]

Yeah I couldn't really comment on the ride part. I switched from worn out michelin pilots to these ones and didn't notice any ride difference. The traction was a big improvement tho.

[AleroB888]

..............

is there anyone that would be willing who has the 2156015 that would be willing to quick snap a front shot of the wheel and post it here?

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http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr299/Gflash01/002.jpg?t=1233185532

[CactusWill]

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Only one thing... Thats not the right tire.

[irondiezl3]

there no way thats a 215 60 15 that looks more like 225 50 16 to me?

[kwhauck]

it is a 215/60/15, i've seen them in person, that is what he drives on a daily basis for weight savings, they are lightweight 15" rims off a malibu....

[irondiezl3]

wow really damn wish it was a front shot.

[kwhauck]

sorry, it's not closer and little dark, but here is a front and rear shot of 255s

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3891/281/22225140010_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/3891/281/22225140011_large.jpg

[irondiezl3]

im usually dont like exterior mods like that idk why but i love that car! lol im so stupid i ment fron shot of the rim lol.

[Spilner521]

sorry, it's not closer and little dark, but here is a front and rear shot of 255s
255s on what size/offfset rims?

[kwhauck]

17x8 +29.5 offset, they sat out just a hair too much, that's why my new rims are 17x8 with a +32 offset

[Spilner521]

Those gunmetal Wedsports you have right? Those are some nice wheels!

I'm going with 18x8.5 +38 with some 255/35 tires. They should sit nice and flush, but if they do stick out, I'll just pull the fenders out a little.

[kwhauck]

yep, the wedsports, you think 8.5" are really necessary, i mean, the 8" would definately be lighter.......

[CactusWill]

These are crappy nite pics but you can see a little bit.


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7443/picture868fh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/picture868fh6.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img187/picture868fh6.jpg/1/)

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http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/picture869dj2.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img206/picture869dj2.jpg/1/)

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http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/picture871ik5.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img134/picture871ik5.jpg/1/)

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http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/picture870tu2.jpg/1/w800.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img187/picture870tu2.jpg/1/)

[irondiezl3]

cactus ur the man thx:) any front shots of the rim like sidewall shots? hey you wouldnt happen to have a coolant leak would you? sounds wierd but the tire looks orange?

[CactusWill]

The orange brown color you're seeing is just leftover beach sand. I can probably get some better pics on a day when I can catch some daylight.

[Spilner521]

yep, the wedsports, you think 8.5" are really necessary, i mean, the 8" would definately be lighter.......
It's only a half inch, and there's some pretty light rims in that size. I'm not worried about getting the lightest rims known to man, but lightweight is definitely a must. Plus there are some 8.5" wide rims have that slightly concave face to them, which I like the looks of :thumb:

[irondiezl3]

did u say beach i wish. day pics that be perfect. 2 feet of snow here.

[kwhauck]

It's only a half inch, and there's some pretty light rims in that size. I'm not worried about getting the lightest rims known to man, but lightweight is definitely a must. Plus there are some 8.5" wide rims have that slightly concave face to them, which I like the looks of :thumb:

right on.....:scpimp: i'm assuming 18s?

[NickAlero2000]

18's are perfect for our cars lol
20s seem too much and 17s are too small
i run 8 inch thick with no problems btw :)

[kwhauck]

17s are better if you want good launches, well 15s are best, but 17s are a good compromise, your rims are 8" which rims do you have?

[meadus101]

I've heard awesome things about Ecsta AST's. They're supposed to be a high performance all season.

[Spilner521]

right on.....:scpimp: i'm assuming 18s?
I'm going with 18x8.5 +38 with some 255/35 tires. They should sit nice and flush, but if they do stick out, I'll just pull the fenders out a little.
Yep^^

[kwhauck]

wow post skimmer, i'm retarded.....

[KenshinZero]

Falken Tires. Can’t go wrong, sticky good looking, I love em. That’s my spare change for this thread.

[irondiezl3]

ordered tires from there saturday. no emails, reciept, no response to my email, and when you call them you get a busy signal been that way since saturday :/

[CactusWill]

Ordered tires from where?

[irondiezl3]

www.discounttires.com what a mistake lol.

[kwhauck]

www.tirerack.com (http://www.tirerack.com) FTW!!!!

[irondiezl3]

i know ive used them before but they are over 100 more for the same tire f that!

[CactusWill]

i know ive used them before but they are over 100 more for the same tire f that!


Hmm I paid $280 for the set of 4 from tire rack, shipped. How much did you pay discount tire?

[irondiezl3]

For the tire I want tirerack is $366 discount tire is $266 but its obviousley a scam so I should have paid the 100 extra. although I found 3 other companies cheaper than tirerack. At this point again i'd pay the extra for peace of mind look at my position now :/

[CactusWill]

I dunno man, for the exact same size as what you're buying, 280 is what I paid total from tirerack, and I got a $50 rebate too so I really only paid 230. Are you sure you added it up right?


Anyways, I'd be watching your card account closely, if you think you got scammed then you should watch for any unusual activity on your card account.

[Nate's Alero]

they screw you?

[irondiezl3]

Im not talking about the falkens I think thats where the mixup on price beteen us is? or maybe it's the different areas where shipping is concerned? yea so far they did. If you call there number its a busy signal been that way since sunday cant even count how many times ive called them. i tried emailing no response. the charge is n my account but i cannot do anything about it until a week thats my cards policy. wow make sure noone buys from them!!

[CactusWill]

Yeah dude you made a boneheaded move, given that we already gave you all the info on what to buy and from where. But now that its done, I guess you have no choice than to wait it out and go from there.

[irondiezl3]

wow the story gets better. so im talking with tirerack about getting these tires. i explaine what happened and how i chose the discount site because they were so much cheaper right. well literally at the same time i update my web browser and what do i get boom a tracking number and not only that but they were shipped yesterday wow. still though there number is off the hook and they dont respond to emails. that's still nuts. i was literally about to order them from tire rack that was so close.

[CactusWill]

So what tires exactly did you get?

[irondiezl3]

lol after all said and done i got the altimax hp. best part is tirerack offered me a lower price after pricematching. son of a b. next time im calling around to get the lowest pricematch.

[kwhauck]

i like tirerack because they are always there, ship super fast, I have always delt with the same guy for over 3 years, and they are way cheaper than anything locally.....

[CactusWill]

Yeah, tirerack is best. But oh well, at least you got what you needed.

[irondiezl3]

i got what i needed and learned a lesson sometimes its worth it to pay a little more.