Power Cable to Amp

[AleroDrime]

Hey whats the best way to run it in an alero, and would it be stupid to attach the cable to that positive thing by the fuse box

[StoopidAlero]

Just run it from the battery. I made a small x cut in my steering column boot and ran a wire hanger thru there. Find the hanger in the engine and tape the end of wire to the hanger. Then pull it thru the hole. Running it down the driver side seemed easiest

[jabartram]

it depends on what size wire you are running? i just ran 1/0 an d had to drill a new hole in the firewall.

[StoopidAlero]

I figure since he only has 1 sony xplod sub, he prolly running like 4 gauge

[Silentalero]

Hey whats the best way to run it in an alero, and would it be stupid to attach the cable to that positive thing by the fuse box

Honestly man, if you think its ok to run it from the "positive fuse thing" I'd advise highly about having a professional install this. If you must do it yourself then please follow these instructions.

Make sure you lugs on it

Run it from the positive on the battery, then within 12" from the battery, have an inline fuse or circuit breaker. Run it through the firewall (drill a new hole if necessary) and put a rubber grommet around the hole so over time the wire doesnt short something. Keep the wire going on the drivers side and RCA cables on your passenger side. Run it under the back seats, and into the trunk. When grounding your amp use THE SAME GAUGE WIRE. Some people think the ground isnt important but it is just as important as the power.


And for God sakes if any of your friends tell you to run the power through your door I give you permission to bitch slap them.

[AleroDrime]

have two with a big amp lemme see what gauge wire it is
4 guage 3/8inch thick 2000watt rated whatnot wire

[StoopidAlero]

Yea, if you run it thru your door, possible ban

[itsbmw]

I ran my 1/0 through a grommet I think the top one on the drivers side. when you push a wire hanger through it you should see it comeout by the fusebox. I used pliers and grabbed it.

[Silentalero]

have two with a big amp lemme see what gauge wire it is
4 guage 3/8inch thick 2000watt rated whatnot wire

Do you know what load your going to wire those subs to? What ohms are the subs and are they dual voice coil?

[Ryan from Ohio]

What amp?

If its small enough 8 ga will work fine.

[Silentalero]

i see this ending very bad if he does it himself

[clutch1]

I've run wires through the door before :ninja:
It works OK just make sure they don't get caught in the hinge. Later on you'll be pissed though, I suggest going for running through the firewall.

You can attach to either the battery or the lug where the LARGE wire enters the UNDERHOOD fuse box.

The system in my alero was the first one i'd ever done, and installed in around 2hours... I think it's simple enough for a money to figure out.

[AleroDrime]

im savier then i sound i was just wondering specifally if that positive thing there was the same as using the positive on the battery excuse me! it aint my first stereo rodeo sorry i sounded so green on the subject, 8 guage wont do it on my system its 2400watt amp 660 rms run to two 10 inch 1100watt 350 rms subs nothings hooked up in the car yet, i kept the amp and subs from my truck but left teh crappy head go with it, i need a new one before i do it

[cherrington17]

The system in my alero was the first one i'd ever done, and installed in around 2hours... I think it's simple enough for a money to figure out.

don't listen to anything he says...

this kid (while physically a walking yardstick) is a freak'n idiot savant w/ DIY projects.

[lonnie]

Fastest, easiest, and safest way is to just drill a new hole and put a rubber gromet in it....saves a hell of alot of time. installing an amp is the easiest thing in the world to do, but if you screw something up you could damage not only the amp, but the car's electrical system as well. If you have any doubts in your ability to safely install any equipment...seek a professional out and watch how they do it....once you see it then you shouldn't have problem afterwards. It would be very unwise to attach the main power for the amp to the positve post in the fuse block...very unwise.

As far as wiring here is an end all chart:
5880

[Ryan from Ohio]

Your greenness shines through by telling me the maximum watts...

:lol:

[GoldStar611]

x3 drill new hole for system and install at battery with appropriate fuse. I used line out converters tapped at the rear speaker and haven't had any problems.

[itsbmw]

If you don't have to drill a new hole dont. I can take a picture of how I have my wire run if you want to see. it is really easy. flat head screwdriver to pop a hole in the grommet. metal coat hanger to tape wire to and pull through. LMK if you want pictures.

[meadus101]

You should still have em from when I couldn't find the Grommet and you sent em to me on Xfire. Hahahaha

[itsbmw]

You should still have em from when I couldn't find the Grommet and you sent em to me on Xfire. Hahahaha

I think I might haha ;)

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/itsbmw/P1000158.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/itsbmw/P1000159.jpg
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/itsbmw/P1000160.jpg

I can take a picture from the inside of the car if you really need it. It';s just a pain in the ass to pull that clip out.

[Nate's Alero]

bleh..... bad wiring

[itsbmw]

bleh..... bad wiring

you talkin to me?

Mr. the stock stereo is good :rolleyes2:

[Nate's Alero]

you talkin to me?

Mr. the stock stereo is good :rolleyes2:

it is..... what do YOU have against the stock monsoon stereo?

[AleroDrime]

jesus layoff the insults arent we all on here for advice on something another?no i dont think a pictures necacerry if you tell me what to pull off and where to look i can do it, its it easy to run wires underneath the plastic by the doors on this car, i know it was a peice of cake with my truck, four screws and i could run anything under the carpet

[itsbmw]

....

[clutch1]

don't listen to anything he says...

this kid (while physically a walking yardstick) is a freak'n idiot savant w/ DIY projects.

Yardstick? You talkin bout my measuring tool I keep in my pants?

Lmao I dunno if I can take that as a compliment or diss :p

[cherrington17]

Lmao I dunno if I can take that as a compliment or diss :p

you have some of the best luck/skill.. at things you've never done before.. its impressive... and slightly frightening.

[bonez1203]

i drilled a hole on the driver side under the dash and used a gromet and ran the 0ga all the way to the trunk i had to remove most of the trim but it was pretty easy car to do an install on
just my 2cents

[clutch1]

you have some of the best luck/skill.. at things you've never done before.. its impressive... and slightly frightening.

Ah, gotcha, right. That's kinda true.. maybe I should start trading stocks or something and hope it goes as good as my other various projects go lol.

[AleroDrime]

What the fuck??!! Is this shit even right, I can't find it nowhere! Is that the grommit or am I completely wrong?? Somebody with this done, please post a picture.

[cherrington17]

that... kinda looks like the steering assembly boot... :huh:


all that carpet/matting needs to be pulled back. its to the left and above where that is.

its a gray grommet about the size of the palm of your hand.

[AleroDrime]

probably is, could i have messed anyting up???

[cherrington17]

dunno.

[AleroDrime]

Aaron loves his Alero more then his girlfriend!

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

Aaron loves his Alero more then his girlfriend!

Ha Ha Ha Random:lol: My advice is to just do what everyone says with the coat hanger and boot that's what I did and it worked good run the power under the drivers side molding and the RCA wires under the passenger side.

[dhurst765]

i am running 8 ga from the aux thing by the fuse box running through the door to a sony xployd 1000w amp to two 12" rockford punch p2's. u dont necessarely need a head unit i am using my stock stereo with a line output converter

[cherrington17]

Aaron loves his Alero more then his girlfriend!

did your g/f write that? :lol:



DON'T run it through your door. thats lame and a electrical risk.... not to mention, looks like hell.

[Fi-Alero]

I ran all three of my runs of 1/0 under the car and into the trunk.


DON'T run it through your door. thats lame and a electrical risk.... not to mention, looks like hell.
We had a guy come up to the shop with his wiring through his door jam. We give him the usual warning that it is a fire hazard and he gives us the usual "my buddy hooked this up and he has been installing for years."
So when he got in his car to leave, he closed the door, and immediately smoke started pouring from it lol. He ran inside begging for help.

[AleroDrime]

yeah.

[AleroDrime]

i got it through the grommit

[cherrington17]

wow... just over a month.

congrats!

[MattismodderX]

mine runs through the door. its just sitting there, the door doesnt close on it or anything. just wired under the hood, out by the pedals, and then under the plasic guard to the back

[AleroDrime]

not really took about an hour, i just wanted to see how ya'll were doing it, i wasnt gonna run the wire till i got my new headunit

[lonnie]

i got it through the grommit
not really took about an hour, i just wanted to see how ya'll were doing it, i wasnt gonna run the wire till i got my new headunitSo you worked an hour for nothing?

mine runs through the door. its just sitting there, the door doesnt close on it or anything. just wired under the hood, out by the pedals, and then under the plasic guard to the back
That's why we pm'd him to not listen to you.....LOL



no seriously......we told him not to listen to you....LOL






all jokes aside.......we told him to ignore you.....LOL




:jk:

[MattismodderX]

aww :'(

[MattismodderX]

Well it starts by going through here:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9821/0401091408.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0401091408.jpg)
reverse angle - comes in from top
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6527/0401091408a.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0401091408a.jpg)
goes into the car via this slot
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6901/0401091408b.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0401091408b.jpg)
and finally goes behind this panel to the trunk
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7982/0401091408c.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=0401091408c.jpg)

edit: all the while just resting in place. nothing rubs up against the wire or touches it really. :D

[lonnie]

You know thats extremely dangerous right?....lucky your insurance agent doesn't know.

All it will take is for something to shift and break through the insulation on the wire and short it on that hinge....then the boot catches on fire and then the car is toast...not saying that WILL happen, but it definitely CAN!

[cherrington17]

worst....idea.....evar

[MattismodderX]

O_O jesus. never really knew that. the only reason me n my buddy did it that way, was because we were too retarded to cut a hole in the firewall thing. so we said f*ck it and just did it that way and ive been too lazy to change it back. i might have to get on that now tho

[MattismodderX]

worst....idea.....evar

i swear to god one of these days ill have good ideas/information:banghead:

[cherrington17]

it takes like... MAYBE an hour, and one bent coat hanger....

i swear to god one of these days ill have good ideas/information:banghead:

And i'll definitely point it out... if/when it happens.

[MattismodderX]

well now that the weathers warming up i can actually do it and not freeze my nads off!

[lonnie]

it takes like... MAYBE an hour, and one bent coat hanger....



And i'll definitely point it out... if/when it happens.Cold....Oh so Cold....LOL

[MattismodderX]

yea ive brought myself to the shit end of this site by getting too offended and starting flame wars from other peoples comments. ive learned to not care about them anymore tho. thats why me n bad99olds worked out via aim our argument.

[cherrington17]

Cold....Oh so Cold....LOL

i didn't mean it that way! i meant to say when he points out something good/great.. i'll be the first one in line to congratulate him!

[MattismodderX]

i better put my helmet on for this task..

[lonnie]

yea ive brought myself to the shit end of this site by getting too offended and starting flame wars from other peoples comments. ive learned to not care about them anymore tho. thats why me n bad99olds worked out via aim our argument.I said that as a joke hence the lol at the end but like it is written below I didn't think he meant any offense by that.

i didn't mean it that way! i meant to say when he points out something good/great.. i'll be the first one in line to congratulate him!Although the comment wasn't made to me but I wouldn't have known how to take that one...I tend to figure out when someone tells a joke or means something by it, and I didn't think this was the case here.......oh well now we know!

[Ryan from Ohio]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/2750070238_20d5fa1a2f.jpg?v=0

[lonnie]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/2750070238_20d5fa1a2f.jpg?v=0
:lol: :lol:

[Ryan from Ohio]

First mental picture that comes to mind when I see wires run like that.

[dhurst765]

u wont have a problem with it shorting out if u have a in line fuse

[Fi-Alero]

u wont have a problem with it shorting out if u have a in line fuse
Fuses don't always work.

[Bad99Olds]

do it right or dont do it at all.

[dhurst765]

i do it how it works

[cherrington17]

i do it how it works

which.. ironically.. is also how stuff explodes.

[dhurst765]

not exactly

[lonnie]

u wont have a problem with it shorting out if u have a in line fuse
Absolutely not true!!
i do it how it worksQuestionable....refer to quote above.

[Ryan from Ohio]

u wont have a problem with it shorting out if u have a in line fuse

Tell that to the amp I smoked. Fuses didnt even pop... They aint instant... So this isnt quite correct.

[AleroDrime]

i swear to god one of these days ill have good ideas/information:banghead:

even i think ive had a few

[MattismodderX]

everyone has at some point

[AleroDrime]

So you worked an hour for nothing?


That's why we pm'd him to not listen to you.....LOL



no seriously......we told him not to listen to you....LOL






all jokes aside.......we told him to ignore you.....LOL




:jk:

not to listen to me?

[MattismodderX]

http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/img/facepalm.jpeg

[lonnie]

not to listen to me?
no nicomepoop reread...it was a multiquote.....:lol: Read what was under your name.

[AleroDrime]

What amp?


If its small enough 8 ga will work fine.

2400watt Legacy REBEL series
600 some Rms at 4 ohm

matched to TWO
1100 Watt Sony XPLOD
350 RMS at 4 ohm

i think i did fine

sounds awsome

[Ryan from Ohio]

:ohmy:

[AleroDrime]

bad? i know the rms of these products suck but i think i matched them ok for the budget i was on

[Ryan from Ohio]

Just the overall brand choice.

In the future you would be best served to ask for advice with your given price range. Almost 100% of the time you will come out on top.

Hell I still ask for opinions on stuff. It never hurts to hear others views.

[AleroDrime]

yeah thats what everybody says till they get to hear it, and i think as long as i dont abuse it theyll last and perform great for a good while

i am pioneer biased though, im doing the speakers all pioneer when i get funds

[AleroDrime]

its either a memphis or rockford box though ill take a picture i think the mountings funny with it but it does sound great

[cherrington17]

pioneer makes good middle ground. i'd spend a little more and do something better up front.

[AleroDrime]

like? i hate rockford adn memphis btw they seem over prices for a frequency and rms rating that not much better then mid grade brands, i realize never get pyle pyramid or roadmasters, they have no ablity to handle normal frequency ranges

[cherrington17]

which is why you ask specialists what kind of speakers you should get.

theres a whole TON of brands you've probably never heard of.... that blow the pants off everything you just listed.

rockford is good for power/subs. not clarity.
pyramid/roadmaster.. never mention those names again.
memphis... i have no experience with.

what about infinity? soundstream? rainbow? polk? JBL? JL? just to name a few other major name brands.

ryan can list out a ton of others that even i've never heard of.

[AleroDrime]

i know of infinity polk adn JL, heard talk on here of older soundstream products, yes i do read around, but i like pioneers bang or the buck ratio and longlastingness

[MattismodderX]

www.sonicelectronix.com they got a huge selection there.

[ryanJ]

phoenix gold rsd components sound pretty good for under $100 per pair

[heineck]

have to agree with him on pioneer tho, my speakers and subs are all pioneer, and hit hard as hell

theres also Orion too

[MattismodderX]

^^ Orion makes some incredible subs. like their 15.2 HCCA subs. 4000w peak 2000rms. 94lbs. faaap

[Fi-Alero]

^^ Orion makes some incredible subs. like their 15.2 HCCA subs. 4000w peak 2000rms. 94lbs. faaap

The new Orion is a joke now :(

Back in the day they used to be great.

[StoopidAlero]

I have to agree with you. New orion is poo, Im actually runing all Powerbass. 2 12's and a 1600 watt amp. Look into PB, reasonably priced and great quality

[heineck]

nah im talk in about the old orion reds

[AleroDrime]

I have my system for now, it's wonderful except for one minor issue. I haven't taken time to confirm it, but I don't seem to be getting sound from the tweeters.

Note tweeters and speakers are still the delcos at the moment

[MattismodderX]

The new Orion is a joke now :(

Back in the day they used to be great.

which version is the joke? the new black/red model or the older silder/red model. cause as far as stats and the reviews for them go... they seem to be the sh*t

[Ryan from Ohio]

The old stuff is where its at...

Most new stuff is cheap. The price is cheap, the build is cheap. The higher end items are still out there, but from different manufacturers. The prices are anything but cheap also...lol

[meadus101]

I just do what Ryan says. I picked up a bandpass, he told me the amp, I bought the amp.

Ta Daaaa.

It works perfectly!

Ryan = Pro.

[Fi-Alero]

which version is the joke? the new black/red model or the older silder/red model.
The new models are built just like Ryan said. Cheaply as possible.
cause as far as stats and the reviews for them go... they seem to be the sh*t
DD and RD mid-line stuff has better "stats" than Orion's higher range stuff. A sub that can take 2500rms daily is childs play lol

[AleroDrime]

tweeters...

[MattismodderX]

u might have to actually look at them, you know- get your hands dirty and see if everythings connected vs asking people if they are. we cant see them

[AleroDrime]

I have but they r producing sound just not a lot

Hey, I'm toying with an idea for the rear of my car, is it bad for speaker mags to touch? And if so how far should the magnets be apart if they're in the same enclosure facing different directions

[jayson_waltz]

stock tweeters don't produce much at all to begin with. ignore them or upgrade.

as for speakers, pioneer prob aren't too bad if you don't play your music loud. but the 4x6 pioneers i had in my doors completely died (like, absolutely no sound) within about a year after getting them. now i am running 5.25 infinitys. well worth the upgrade, the pioneers don't even begin to compare.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Actually the stock tweeters arent 'that" bad. Its the imaging which is horrible!

[Fi-Alero]

Its the imaging which is horrible!
The imagining isn't that bad either. They are pretty close to being on-axis with your head.

[AleroDrime]

imaging?

[Chipmunk-Alero]

imaging?

The way the speakers are arranged around you.

[Ryan from Ohio]

The imagining isn't that bad either. They are pretty close to being on-axis with your head.

Hence the problem. The on axis response is horrible. Off axis they shine pretty decent for stock. That goes for most tweeters. For every 1 that sounds best on axis there are 20 that are better off axis.