Gauging Interest: Dampening Group buy

[cherrington17]

After chatting with ryan a while ago... he said something about www.secondskinaudio.com doing group buy deals on their damplifier mat.

I have no formal info on this, but i'm just wondering how many others might be interested in getting some.

its been as low as $1 per foot, apparently....

[Dhoyle]

id go for that :) i need some lmao, mostly my plate rattles like well lols really bad i need to stuff somethin behind it, and yes i have 4 bolts in it

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

I think that would be a good idea, I'm not one for buying stuff of the net but if the total cost including shipping comes up cheaper then what it would cost to go to best buy and buy Dynamat stuff I would be in.

[Dhoyle]

yea i went to circuit city, they wanted 33$ for a piece of dyno to go behind my license plate, i was like wow? expensive much? it was actully cheaper to get a square 5 by 5 or somethin cant remember the size? but it was for our front speakers and for 2 of em in a package it was 18$ i was like wtf?

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

yeah I know it's ridiculous how pricey that stuff is.

[Caboose73]

Im in

[Valley olds]

Sounds good. Around how much would I need for the doors? Maybe 16 sq ft for all four?

[Dhoyle]

yea no wounder why circuit city is goin out of buisness, their larger pieces of dyno is cheaper then the smaller pieces, i was like wtf? i was gonna buy but then this cocky mofo from their autodeparment started stalkin me (im 17 probly thought i was gonna steal) but ive had problems with him tryin to screw me outta money before. Hence why i stopped going there, but enough ranting, im all for this if this can become a group buy :)

[cherrington17]

i think around 20sqft per door.. maybe more.

i'm thinking if we can get that price, i'm in for at least $70. :lol:

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

yea no wounder why circuit city is goin out of buisness, their larger pieces of dyno is cheaper then the smaller pieces, i was like wtf? i was gonna buy but then this chickeny mofo from their autodeparment started stalkin me (im 17 probly thought i was gonna steal) but ive had problems with him tryin to screw me outta money before. Hence why i stopped going there, but enough ranting, im all for this if this can become a group buy :) salesmen tend to be that way when I went buy my amp I wanted JBL like my sub but they kept trying to get me to buy Alpine, but in the end I still bought a JBL amp now every time I go to best buy I have to know exactly what it is I'm looking for cause neither of the salesmen that were there that day will have anything to do with me.

[YALEROYNOT]

count me in for about 50 to 100 sq ft, the plan for the impala is eventually do the entire car, want it to be noise free inside and great sound from the 5.1 suround sound I am installing (true suround sound) .

[Dhoyle]

yea, he tried tellin me i needed 100$ whire kit, then he said he couldnt sell me a CD player with this ipod attachment cuz i wasnt getting it installed by them, when on their website they said the special was the CD player with free ipod cord and instalation, yea then he reported my debt card stolen too. lmao. but if it was 1$ a sq ft, id buy about 200$ worth? lols :)

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

100 sq feet sounds like plenty

[Dhoyle]

Lmao, my dad has an excursion also, and hes been bothering me about quotes.... id mat my whole car and part of his truck,

[cherrington17]

so.. lets start a figurative list....

cherrington-~100
yalero~100
dhoyle~200

[Caboose73]

cherrington-~100
yalero~100
dhoyle~200
Caboose73~100

[Valley olds]

maybe 80 depends on shipping

[jabartram]

id be up for it, BUT i have already done my car.

[Rexter9x]

Count me in. If its $1/sq foot the ill get between 150-200

[cherrington17]

cherrington-~100
yalero~100
dhoyle~200
Caboose73~100
Rexter9x~200

so.. we're at ~700sqft already.

i'll have to have one of the ca forum guys pm him and find out what level he cuts deals at.

i honestly didn't think this would get so much attention. :lol:

[itsbmw]

I need it. especially with the new system I am getting :lol:

Oh and all I want is dynomat for the trunk, eff the doors haha.

[cherrington17]

doors and backseat area for me. eff the trunk. :lol:

[Caboose73]

would 100 be enough to do the whole car?

[Ryan from Ohio]

Last time I wanted Second Skin Damplifier ANT told me he would knock 20% off the price if I ordered direct...

The pricing for Second Skin is absolutely insane. I know I mentioned it to you, but I havent check prices in some time. $3-$2.25 a sq ft... F that.

For what its worth at this point Im going to try a few alternatives...

1) Peel & Seal
2) www.fatmat.com 100 sq/ft $130 SHIPPED w/roller/knife
3) www.mcmaster.com search # 9709T39 $1.39 sq foot
4) www.b-quiet.com 50 sq/ft = $85 = $1.70 sq/ft
5) www.edesignaudio.com $1/sq foot order as you like

Ranked in order...

But if I could get damplifier for $1 sq/ft shipped or cheap shipping, I would be down for 80-100 Sq ft.

[cherrington17]

well.. then i guess we do some research, as around and see what kind of deals we can get.

obviously we have quite a few of us looking for a great deal on mat.

and sorry ryan, i guess i misunderstood what you were saying before when you were talking about prices. (misread prices on various types)

[99alerogirl]

i just want to do the trunk... so what, maybe 30-50ft? but i'd definitely be down. been meaning to get this stuff for awhile, but i'm cheap :)

[adam337]

i may be in for about 100

[Ryan from Ohio]

Let me know and I will see what I can do. I know people.

I bet we could get Fat Mat 100 Sq ft packs for $100 shipped...

Heres the kicker:

http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/

:ninja:

[cherrington17]

so according to that, fatmat is decent, but damplifier is great.

[99alerogirl]

i have a friend who would want in on this too!

[Dhoyle]

yea drop me back to 100 sq ft, im in it if its for around 1$ my dad told me he doesnt want his truck done lols

[jabartram]

i'm running fatmat, and so far it has done well. 50 sq.ft. did my trunk lid, trunk(including spare tire well) under rear seat and both front doors fully skinned.

doing the trunk helped immensely, i had alot of road noise and exhaust noise, had the run the system at higher volumes to drown it out, after the fatmat my car is much quieter system is much cleaner sounding, worth every hour and every penny.

[cherrington17]

50ft did all that?

if thats the case, i think we all need to adjust our numbers. :lol:


with the link ryan posted.. i'm just afraid of the adhesion problems fatmat might have with the freak heat and common cold we get here, year around. dark red car parked outside sealed up in the summer + subzero some nights in the winter...

i think the glue would break free after not too long.

[Dhoyle]

yea lmao, i was estimating maybe 180 for the whole car, then again its my first time so i bet ill have ALOT of scraps and uhm ooppsies lols?

[jabartram]

ive had a cheaper dampener that my brother sent me the extra he had that has been on my trunk lid for well over a year and has never even come loose, just use the roller and wipe all the dirt off, depending on where you are putting it most will be lying down anyways and held down by the weight of other things like the back seat.

[Dhoyle]

ok that sounds so simple i can do it :) lols, hopefully, cuz i dont know shit, my mom did used to illegally dragrace, but she wont help me >.< she says its for my own good? So sadly i gotta learn on my own :)

[jabartram]

ok that sounds so simple i can do it :) lols, hopefully, cuz i dont know shit, my mom did used to illegally dragrace, but she wont help me >.< she says its for my own good? So sadly i gotta learn on my own :)

install it in smaller pieces, instead of the big pieces it comes packed in. and be prepared to get dirty.

[clutch1]

If we can get decent stuff for $1/sqft I suppose I'll got for 100.. my trunk rattles like you wouldn't believe!

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

I don't really care I just don't wanna rattle like all the other kids in town so 100 sq ft is all I will need

[cherrington17]

clutch and/or ryan (and whomever else is on ca.forums) you guys want to keep us alert of any deals they have going, or see if you can't find any connections to a good price?

[clutch1]

I'm a noobie on CA.com, I just peruse it here n there.
Ryan's your go to guy ;)

[jabartram]

I don't really care I just don't wanna rattle like all the other kids in town so 100 sq ft is all I will need

your trunk lid will rattle, there is a weak spot in the center of the lid up against the rear window that vibrates like hell, i'm still working on a solution.

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

your trunk lid will rattle, there is a weak spot in the center of the lid up against the rear window that vibrates like hell, i'm still working on a solution.
DARN!!!! work harder lol jk

[adam337]

the reason it rattles like that is because it is two seperate pieces on top of each other.. i put a fuckload of packing foam between them and screwed them back together.. it worked to some point but still rattled like a bitch. the only solution i know of is shaving the trunklid like bdyman, aftermath, and that new dude

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

I'll find a way, I've got too much time on my hands now days...

[guiguilandry]

I'm the new dude I guess...... lol

[adam337]

yup. you are.

[jabartram]

the reason it rattles like that is because it is two seperate pieces on top of each other.. i put a effload of packing foam between them and screwed them back together.. it worked to some point but still rattled like a bitch. the only solution i know of is shaving the trunklid like bdyman, aftermath, and that new dude

we are talking about 2 different sections of the trunk lid.

[Ryan from Ohio]

I will do some emailing today.

Im going to say 700-100 sq ft for the group buy. Keep in mind these people usually have "bulk packs" in the 50 Sq Ft, some 80 most 100 sq ft packs.

So your not going to get 30 Sq ft... Or 60...Its probably going to end up at 100 sq Ft packs.

As far as $1/sq ft. Depends on what we go with. I DOUBT we can get Second Skin for 41/sq ft. I will try though.

[bonez1203]

i'm in if the price is right

[Ryan from Ohio]

E mails sent. We shall see give it a few days.

I need some anyhow...lol

[bonez1203]

thanks for taking time -Ryan

[cherrington17]

thanks for the help ryan!

....and now we wait.... :lol:

[Ryan from Ohio]

Ive gotten a little feedback from a dealer. He thinks he can get close to $1 sq/ft. Its probably going to be hard to get them to that level though...

Update.

Just got a response from Second Skin. Basiclly we can get the 80 sq ft bulck pack of Damplifier Pro for only $247ish... thats $3.08 a sq ft.

IMO not the way to go.

[bonez1203]

i'm with you Ryan kinda pricey for the amount we will be ordering

[meadus101]

I could use like, 10-20 feet. haha.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Just got another reply from another vendor. They again are offering only the highest end mat dampner. Then they also offered a mat that goes over said dampner for even more control.

While the offer isnt that bad on the later portion you guys would do a back flip at the mat pricing...

[cherrington17]

:lol: dynomat xtreme level pricing?

who was the first dealer? (what product?)


personally, because my car gets alot of heat flucuation in a year, i'd rather spend a little more and get some mat that won't fall off, rather then having to keep tearing it open and reapplying (or rematting)

i know this isn't an issue for everyone.

stupid wny

[lonnie]

Couldn't you just use the lower grade dampening mat with a spray adhesive....problem solved with it falling off!

[Ryan from Ohio]

So far Ive heard back from Second Skin, Cascade, B Quiet. I got E mails to Fat Mat, RAMMAT, eD also.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Well I ws just told by a dealer 41/sq foot isnt going to happen unless we order 10,000 Sq ft worth... lol

Im just going to order some of the stuff from McMaster and give it a try.

[YALEROYNOT]

rammatt would b my choice second skin has a great product but the price will blow my buget, rammatt has almost as good of a product it is way less in price, I will prob order 2 rolls of bxt (doors,trunk lid and sides), 6 yards ensolite (for the floor), I would like to put a layer of ensolite on the roof down the road.

[Ghadsphi]

Well if you really want to crunch number for a real good deal i'm in for 100 sq ft, could probably get an equal ammount from the grand am site. Lot more of them on the west coast.
When my coworker is back to work (he has rotating days) I think it's tonight at 9pm, but he's off the next 2.I'll ask him if he can get deals on it. I'm not sure about his parts contacts. He gets good work done, stupid work, but it's done good.

[Ryan from Ohio]

The dealer just told me he couldnt get below $3/sq ft...

WTF?

I can buy it direct from Second Skin for under $3... regular damplifier.

Ive come to the conclusion Im NOT buying Second Skin... lol May aswell by Dynamat at their current pricing...

[Ghadsphi]

Well hopefully my boy will show up tomarrow. he's been off 2 on for tonight then off 2, if he wasn't moron he's just phone it in. But like me he need the money.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Well as it stands right now Fat Mat and Elemental Designs has the best deal...

[cherrington17]

secondskin is quoting PRO though... i could careless for that. if i was getting it, i'd get the regular mat.

hmm... FatMat didn't have a great result w/ heat/cold, from your last link... any way to get it to stay, stuck, better?

[Ryan from Ohio]

Update...

Looks like Elemental Designs is going to give us a direct 20% discount for our buy. Which means you can buy any of their sound deadner products @ 20% off listed price.

For some of you just wanting cheapest mat, thats $0.80 a sq foot. And you order whatever amount you want... Even 1 sq... lol

Im pursuing this right now as I type. I think this is our best avenue.

Sound Deadner Showdown is a good site. The operator is a good guy, but his whole deal is a bit outdated right now.

[cherrington17]

very interesting.

would we have to order collectively, or is this just an aleromod.com deal?

[Ryan from Ohio]

Hello Ryan.

We typically do not offer group buys, but we offer forum discounts to specific message boards.

If you are interested, the coupon code is for 20% off on all sound damping material. Shipping with all sound proofing is the purchasers responsibility.

Thats all I got

[cherrington17]

noice! so you got our forum a 20% discount from ED!

[Ryan from Ohio]

noice! so you got our forum a 20% discount from ED!

Only for the sound deadner products...

[cherrington17]

well.. yeah. of course.

so whats the coupon code, for us?

[Ryan from Ohio]

Good question...lol

He didnt specify.

[cherrington17]

the coupon code IS...... coupon code. heheh.

:lol:

[Caboose73]

Any news on the coupon code?

[Ryan from Ohio]

Yes, look at the sticky post in this part of the board.