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Redog
03-26-2009, 11:22 PM
FIRST TIME EVER I had a car fail inspection.

It failed for front brakes, everything else is fine.

Just got my front rotors and pads from Summit today. I bought the Summit brand slotted and x-drilled like I have now, but I bought the Bendix Semi-metallic pads with the blue break in crap on them. I was running "Evelotion" pads, but I figured the Bendix were better although the others were ceramic.

I didn't even know for a fact the brakes were going. The rotors didn't warp, there is a little bit of grinding, but very little. Another first, usually bad brakes make the steering wheel shake like a mofo when stopping

So it's off the the powder coating shop to get the centers powder coated and then on the car.

When I go back to the shop, I just have to pay $2 for the sticker. The car passed everything else, including emissions

billytheman1188
03-26-2009, 11:26 PM
my brakes suck.....when i first got the pads and rotors i didnt bleed them good enough. then i neglected them for a while.....changed the pads and bled them real good. then they were great for a while, now they vibrate again..... i think i fucked up the rotors. so ive been thinking about going back to the stock ones in the front for now and putting on the extra brake pads i have laying around. getting those braided lines would be pretty sick too..... but idk

AleroB888
03-26-2009, 11:31 PM
FIRST TIME EVER I had a car fail inspection.

It failed for front brakes, everything else is fine.

Just got my front rotors and pads from Summit today. I bought the Summit brand slotted and x-drilled like I have now, but I bought the Bendix Semi-metallic pads with the blue break in crap on them. I was running "Evelotion" pads, but I figured the Bendix were better although the others were ceramic.

I didn't even know for a fact the brakes were going. The rotors didn't warp, there is a little bit of grinding, but very little. Another first, usually bad brakes make the steering wheel shake like a mofo when stopping

So it's off the the powder coating shop to get the centers powder coated and then on the car.

When I go back to the shop, I just have to pay $2 for the sticker. The car passed everything else, including emissions

At least you passed the "difficult" part. I'm sweating out this next emissions test here, though. Got a ton of new mods that are questionable.

How do they do the test on the brakes?

Redog
03-26-2009, 11:32 PM
For just a pad and rotor change, you don't have to bleed the system, just push back the caliper piston ;)

[ion] C2
03-26-2009, 11:36 PM
Wha? How do they test your brakes? How does this inspection garbage work? Someone else drives your car and then decides whether or not it passes?

Bad99Olds
03-26-2009, 11:45 PM
C2;446276']Wha? How do they test your brakes? How does this inspection garbage work? Someone else drives your car and then decides whether or not it passes?

they physically inspect the rotors, calipers, and pads, atleast in va.

CactusWill
03-26-2009, 11:46 PM
Thats weird.

Bad99Olds
03-26-2009, 11:49 PM
Thats weird.

virginias a wierd place my friend.

CactusWill
03-26-2009, 11:58 PM
virginias a wierd place my friend.


I didn't mean it to you, I mean it was weird that he failed inspection for brakes :lol: Usually inspections are pretty lax

Redog
03-27-2009, 12:05 AM
they physically inspect the rotors, calipers, and pads, atleast in va.

Yes in PA too.

All 4 wheels MUST be pulled off for inspection. In NJ you can be grinding the caliper on the rotor, but if the car stops in a certain distance, it passes.

So I'm driving around with one sticker that says 5/10 and one that says 5/09

Bad99Olds
03-27-2009, 12:25 AM
here they just pick any random 2

billytheman1188
03-27-2009, 01:26 AM
For just a pad and rotor change, you don't have to bleed the system, just push back the caliper piston ;)

long story short....i accidentally opened the bleeder screw and let some air in the system....never bleeded the system after i did that cause i didnt think any air got in it.....well it did and it took me a while before i bled the brakes....which in turn messed up my brakes in the mean time.

lol, i guess that wasnt short.....:lol:

C_EICK
03-27-2009, 02:28 AM
im so glad we don't have inspections.

Daytona
03-27-2009, 06:45 AM
Ken,

Make sure there's nothing else wrong with your brakes while you're at it.

I don't recall if I told you or not but in December I noticed a significant drop in gas mileage that was not related to "winter gas". Brought it in at the beginning of Feb when the problem persisted and they couldn't really find anything wrong. They cleaned my intake and did some other maintenance, just in case. Seemed to help a little that next tank, but then the problem got progressively worse. At the same time I noticed my brakes not being as strong as they were in the summer when I first got the slotted rotors and ceramic pads installed. Figured maybe it was the way these wore in.

Fast forward to this week. Wednesday I noticed the front left tire pressure WAY down so I refilled her on the way to work. She started vibrating something fierce as I drove and then there was a sick burning smell coming from that FLT and the tire itself was hot. The rotors looked fine. Brought back inot the shop yesterday thinking the hub might have gone bad. Found out that the CALIPER SEAL had "fallen apart" and the brake wasn't immediately releasing on that side and had been getting worse the more I drove.

$510 for parts and labor!

THEN they find that a seal on the SPOOL VALVE in my steering assembly has been leaking fluid. I was down about 1/2 quart (the assembly holds maybe 2 quarts total) since the last time the shop topped it off last month. Serious failure could occur if the fluid levels got too low and that particular seal couldn't easily be fixed/covered. Unless I wanted to top off the fluid every month, a whole new assembly would have to be put in.

Cost? $1,500 (est.)!!!

I just spent over $2G on the car in a matter of a few hours. Car should (hopefully) be ready by tomorrow a.m.

Nate's Alero
03-27-2009, 07:52 AM
holy christ daytona.......

lonnie
03-27-2009, 08:42 AM
I loved getting inspection in VA...the guy would pull the car in test the wipers, lights, and send you on your way for 12 bucks. Only thing is you have to get it done every freakin year, or at least you did when I last had a vehicle in VA.

I moved to Maryland and they nic pick everything. Some places are just rip offs. But once you get it done once you never have to do it again as long as you own the car....that I like allot.

Nate's Alero
03-27-2009, 08:48 AM
I loved getting inspection in VA...the guy would pull the car in test the wipers, lights, and send you on your way for 12 bucks. Only thing is you have to get it done every freakin year, or at least you did when I last had a vehicle in VA.

I moved to Maryland and they nic pick everything. Some places are just rip offs. But once you get it done once you never have to do it again as long as you own the car....that I like allot.

you need to get your car inspected here every year also, and its 50$ but still, LIGHTS, WIPERS! HORN! GOOD! 50$ please

dhurst765
03-27-2009, 08:57 AM
not having inspections here is great

zoL
03-27-2009, 09:35 AM
I loved getting inspection in VA...the guy would pull the car in test the wipers, lights, and send you on your way for 12 bucks. Only thing is you have to get it done every freakin year, or at least you did when I last had a vehicle in VA.

Same with Massachusetts. You just need to know where to go. I go to this Lebanese's guys shop. He tests the brakes and headlights, and you're on your way. Only thing that sucks is it's every year for $29.99. I usually go a few days after inspection, so I can get the next months sticker. So, 1 year and 1 month for me :D. Yes, I'm a jew.

lonnie
03-27-2009, 09:46 AM
not having inspections here is greatThis must be the muscle car capitol of the world?

cliffordwoeller
03-27-2009, 10:05 AM
here in Texas we have state inspections, and have to get them renewed every year. Now here in Dallas, we have to get the emissions test also. It brings the total cost to us DFW area people to 35.00 every year. But if you live in rural Texas you only pay 15.00 w/o emmissions testing

number53alero
03-27-2009, 10:19 AM
we used to have emissions checks in ky but thank god they got rid off them. The checks they did were very pointless and a waste of tax payer money and didn't change the pollution levels in our area at all.

AGT
03-27-2009, 10:25 AM
Auto fail
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AGT
03-27-2009, 10:26 AM
It sucks honestly.

We don't even have state inspections anymore.

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coolgrinder33
03-27-2009, 04:32 PM
Kentucky doesn't have state inspections

HazMatt24
03-27-2009, 04:42 PM
state inspections FTL, we don't have them, just emissions every other year

coolgrinder33
03-27-2009, 05:29 PM
no tests here of any kind ever
KY for the win (take that alerogirl!)

TheEdgeofSanity
03-27-2009, 06:11 PM
michigan doesn't have inspections and sometimes i wish they did because some cars around here shouldn't be allowed on the roads even in a third world country!

Ryan from Ohio
03-27-2009, 07:05 PM
Ohio is F'ed up.

They have inspections in counties around the larger Metro areas. Like Cleveland and Cincinnati. I dont think they have them in Columbus (bigger than Cleveland or Cinci). Sure as hell dont have them around here :D

Redog
03-27-2009, 09:59 PM
Pennsylvaina depends on where you live. Around the major cities you have to have the "Enhanced" emissions tests, which on cars 1996 and newer the run has to be runnig and they plug the state CPU into the OBDII port under the dash. If the SES light is on, automatic fail, that's just for emissions.

For safety, the wheels are pulled, all 4, unless the shop knows your car, then they'll just pick 2, lights, wipers, brake lights, t/s, horn, even the license plate light and fog lights. If it's aftermarket lights, even they have to work.

The cost varies from shop to shop, but usually it's around $80 for both inspections.

Out in the sticks, They don't do emissions, or it's a different test, don't know what it really entails. It all depends on what county the car is reg'ed in.

Cars 1975 to 1995, have to run at 15 MPH on a dyno with a probe in the tail pipe for 5 mintues. It measures the CO levels and 7 other fumes that the car emits. The Delta never passed this. I put "Classic" plates on it, which was $97 compared to the regualer $36 for reg fees, but the $97 is one time, it's permantet until the car is in the junkyard. Classic is 15 years and older, Antique is 25 years and older, and the car cannot be driven over 5000 miles in a year. All this makes it emissions exempt.

Any car driven less than 5000 miles a year is also emissions exmept, but only for one year, under 7500 in 2 years, makes the car exempt for 2 years. After that, Emissions testing has to be done.

Emission exmept cars are $33 to pass inspection

cherrington17
03-27-2009, 10:27 PM
i don't want to hear anyone complain about inspections... :glare:

Redog
03-27-2009, 10:31 PM
I'm not complaining, in fact I like inspection

At least I know what's wrong with the car, right away. I didn't know the brakes were at 2/32's because the rotors did not warp. It's the first time I had brakes get THIS low because they usually warp before they get there ;)

99alerogirl
03-31-2009, 01:42 AM
no tests here of any kind ever
KY for the win (take that alerogirl!)

no tests of any kind here either. BOOM BIATCH

nixon
04-05-2009, 07:34 PM
haha speaking of brakes I just had to spend 600 on mine the other week. I knew the one side was bad and that I thought the caliper had just gotten stuck or something and wore the pad down on the inside on the front left tire....a few hours later they came out and told me i needed all new calipers apparently the front ones were seized up.. yay...600 and all i did was replace the parts to stock rotors/pads/calipers...

dhurst765
04-05-2009, 08:24 PM
This must be the muscle car capitol of the world?
some times i think it is

Redog
04-06-2009, 03:48 AM
Well I got the rotors back from the powder coating shop and put them on with the new Bendix pads.

I had NO pad left on one of the old ones :eek: I guess I did need new brakes.

My neighbor hung out and watched me do the job, He wanted to learn so he could do the brakes on his 1995 Jeep. I showed him the pin that holds on his rotor and told him I've never done a brake job like that. I've only done the "floating" rotors like on the Alero, and soon the wife's Altima. Same set up, just 14 and 19mm bolts ;)

spc2125
01-31-2011, 08:41 PM
Same with Massachusetts. You just need to know where to go. I go to this Lebanese's guys shop. He tests the brakes and headlights, and you're on your way. Only thing that sucks is it's every year for $29.99. I usually go a few days after inspection, so I can get the next months sticker. So, 1 year and 1 month for me :D. Yes, I'm a jew.

where in mass do you go?

TheEdgeofSanity
01-31-2011, 11:11 PM
where in mass do you go?

...and thread jesus arrives!

Ttop191
01-31-2011, 11:12 PM
not only is he good at starting useless threads, but he brings dead ones back to life!

Kid you are amazing...

spc2125
01-31-2011, 11:45 PM
its really a god given talent.
but since i got your attention
i have another noob question
its about time to change the oil and i am getting snow every other day here and although i would love to change the oil myself...
anywhoo. i already know there gunna tell me a shit load of stuff that ill need and what kind of oil to use and a bunch of fluids that need to be flushed.
What are the things that should be checked/flushed/toped off so that i dont get ripped off

JLw7123
01-31-2011, 11:56 PM
jesus this thread id 2 years old. just change your oil anyway a little snow won't hurt you.

Redog
02-01-2011, 01:05 AM
15mm box wrench
oil filer pilers (don't need but it helps)
ramps
catch pan
rubber gloves (keep the bulk of the used oil off your hands which is know to cause skin cancer)
funnel
oil
filter

Now this thread is closed