Starting on my Wide Body F1 Style Metal Fenders

[volfenhag_alero]

I finally got all of my Front end off of my Alero... I've got one fender cut and ready to weld in my custom made F1 Style Fender Vents. I will put picks up tomorrow of the progress... I plan on being done with both fender and have them primered by monday night... Here's picks of everything of the front of my car.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290050_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290049_large.jpg

[Nate's Alero]

very good :)

[volfenhag_alero]

I'm hoping to get both fenders cut and welded tomorrow and smoothed up and primed by Sunday.

[cherrington17]

i'm intrigued to see how this will turn out...

defintely keep us posted.

[volfenhag_alero]

So far they are looking pretty good... I'm hoping they will be what I'm expecting the to be.

[Redog]

Interseted to see the finished project.

[heineck]

i wanna see how they come out

[volfenhag_alero]

Thanx for ya'lls support, instead of ya'll putting me down... I appreciate it

[Nate's Alero]

Thanx for ya'lls support, instead of ya'll putting me down... I appreciate it

figured i would give you a chance

[volfenhag_alero]

I appreciate it... I'll put some pics up on here tomorrow after I get further along

[cherrington17]

hey... your STILL doing more then 90% of the members on here.

many talk... few do.

keep up the good work.

[Nate's Alero]

hey... your STILL doing more then 90% of the members on here.

many talk... few do.

keep up the good work.

he has a point... i hope this turns out well

[volfenhag_alero]

who knows... if they come out good... I might have to go to my friend and get several sets of fiberglass fenders made to sell on here.

[cherrington17]

i could live w/o the blinking signature though.... :glare:

[AleroDrime]

like the painted wing

[_01Alero_]

hope it comes out good. Definite plus on effort man! Keep up the work. Cant wait to see a finished product.

[bdyman]

[quote=cherrington17;449456]hey... your STILL doing more then 90% of the members on here.

many talk... few do.



ummmmm what about me and richie?? one off custom cars??? riiiiggghhhttttttt


all i see is the nose torn down, i will give my judgement and professional opinion and advice when i see pics of said fenders

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

hey... your STILL doing more then 90% of the members on here.

many talk... few do.



ummmmm what about me and richie?? one off custom cars??? riiiiggghhhttttttt


all i see is the nose torn down, i will give my judgement and professional opinion and advice when i see pics of said fenders

he said FEW do...he didn't say NOBODY does. You are in the slim minority of those that actually do something. ;)

[cherrington17]

hey... your STILL doing more then 90% of the members on here.

many talk... few do.



ummmmm what about me and richie?? one off custom cars??? riiiiggghhhttttttt


all i see is the nose torn down, i will give my judgement and professional opinion and advice when i see pics of said fenders


you guys were part of the "few that do". we have 5k members, and about 100 active modders. Out of those... we had 2 truely customized cars? Thats certainly on "few" end.

granted, we DO have a couple guys who do plenty of work... but you guys are still certainly in the minority among the forum.

[kwhauck]

good luck, maybe if you fitment on the fenders suck as bad as the fitment on the bodykit, it will all come together....

[volfenhag_alero]

I'm using my factory fenders so the fitment should be perfect and I'm going to fix that fitment issue with my front bumper as well

[black00gt1]

who all makes fenders for alero's?

just andy's?

i know that aed planned on doin a set as well as a hood as we all know that didn't happen :(

[volfenhag_alero]

Extreme Dimensions, Andys, Ground Dynamics have the Spyder 3 hood and Razor/GT concept fenders

[kwhauck]

which are gay...

[xstrong4lifex]

Is there a difference from AAS and Extreme Dimensions besides price?

[hok666]

i could live w/o the blinking signature though.... :glare:

So do what I did and changed my settings to get rid of everyone's avatar's saves bandwidth:D

[hok666]

Im on your side volfenhag great job so far:thumb:

[[ion] C2]

what's the "great job so far" about? :lol: his fenders and front bumper are removed

woo great work, looks amazing

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

^ that's weight redux stage 4. DUH.

[Valley olds]

Come on guys. No need to hate yet. What is great, is that he is actually trying to do something different to his alero. Hopefully itll be good, but if its bad, wait till then to hate.


xstrong4lifex: Is there a difference from AAS and Extreme Dimensions besides price?
I think the material of the kits is different.

[volfenhag_alero]

Update... One fender welded and the other one cut and the vent pieces are cut.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290051_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290052_large.jpg

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http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290055_large.jpg

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http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290056_large.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290057_large.jpg

[[ion] C2]

sweet

[knuckleballer32]

nice. i really like that style

[volfenhag_alero]

I also have a set of large fender flares coming in sometime this week... I will be molding them on as well... After this, the next project is the wide body rear quarter panel.

[hok666]

C2;449652']what's the "great job so far" about? :lol: his fenders and front bumper are removed

woo great work, looks amazing

our an idiot :lol:

[cherrington17]

hey... a member who posts pics of a project when he says he will...

:thumb: :thumb: for that alone!

[clutch1]

Those look excellent.

[pimpalero2003]

Looks alot like the aed ones nice

[Oldsnut]

I'm likin it, keep going.

[Spilner521]

Nice looking vent :thumb:

I don't get it though, you said wide body. You just cut a vent into the stock fender. It's not any wider...

[volfenhag_alero]

I have a set of wide fender flares coming sometime this week as I had said before

[Spilner521]

I have a set of wide fender flares coming sometime this week as I had said before
Good call on that. Reading > Me :p
I also have a set of large fender flares coming in sometime this week... I will be molding them on as well... After this, the next project is the wide body rear quarter panel.
What do the flares look like?

[volfenhag_alero]

I'm pretty sure that they are 3.5" fender flares but there wasn't any real measurements on the site so I will post pics as soon as they come in... They look bigger than 3.5" but I'm not exactly sure

[Spilner521]

Something like this?

http://www.italia.nt-uploader.com/Pics/M&S%20fender%20flare.jpg

[adam337]

i wonder how this will turn out.. im hoping it will end up looking amazing.. but with rounded flares like that plus the vents.. im kinda scared it will look retarded :\

[volfenhag_alero]

No the flares are way bigger that that... Here's the link for what they look like.... http://app.vendio.com/img/template.jsp

[volfenhag_alero]

Sorry that was a bad link... here is the ebay page with the pics on it

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/UNIVERSAL-WIDE-FENDER-FLARES-hOt-ImpOrT-nIgHT_W0QQitemZ150335128093QQcmdZViewItemQQptZOthe r_Vehicle_Parts?hash=item150335128093&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A1171%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A131 8

[dragon8807]

looks sweet

[bdyman]

so your making the fender out of metal but yet your going to buy a flare thats fiberglass?? so why not make it out of metal??? and how deep is this vent your doing?? is it going to fit against the upper rail???
i can give you a thumbs up for being different, trust me i like different
when your done fabn` on the backside of the fender my advice would be to use a self-etching primer, and then apply a sealer so ya dont have to worry about rust
what kind of bond o are your going to use?? i recomend using evercoat rage gold, one of the best fillers out there, or you could use there kevlar reinforced filler, its corrosion resistant, water proof, and the kevlar stop any body work from dying back on ya ya wont see a line or nothing its amazing stuff and it cheap
i really wouldnt do the flare you picked out your this deep with metal work why not finish it with metal

[KenshinZero]

your this deep with metal work why not finish it with metal

Hes got a point.

[cherrington17]

maybe use the fiberglass as a template? get a good mold, then shape the metal?

[volfenhag_alero]

The reason I'm going to use fiberglass fender flares is bc I don't have the the metal shaping equipment to make them out of metal and I'm going to make sure they look right before I mount them on or mold them on... I'm sure what I have pictured in my head will look good.

[volfenhag_alero]

As for how deep the vent goes on the top part it is 2 1/4"- flush which puts the fender close to the fender frame top rail. The Vented part is 3/4"-2 3/4" and it doesn't even come close to hitting the frame underneith. Another reason for using the fiberglass fender flares is bc they are solid flares and it will help stiffen up the front fenders since my front bumper sits so low.

[kwhauck]

not a fan....

[MattismodderX]

i think a wide bodyhttp://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/2380938022_23112bd7f0.jpg like this would be pretty sweet on an alero

[billytheman1188]

The reason I'm going to use fiberglass fender flares is bc I don't have the the metal shaping equipment to make them out of metal and I'm going to make sure they look right before I mount them on or mold them on... I'm sure what I have pictured in my head will look good.

if you mold on a plastic piece to a metal piece.....its going to crack over time and look BAD. bring the fiberglass flares to a metal fab place and have them make flares for you out of metal.....then weld them on and you wont have to worry about cracking in the future.

Looks good so far, those fenders are going to look bad ass!:coolio:

[kwhauck]

metal welds can crack too, if you don't know what you are doing, or if you warp the shit out of the flares from not welding right you end up with a shitload of bondo which can also crack...

[billytheman1188]

metal welds can crack too, if you don't know what you are doing, or if you warp the shit out of the flares from not welding right you end up with a shitload of bondo which can also crack...

true.... and im hoping he knows how to weld good :lol:

Dont just run a steady bead.....make a bunch of tack welds along the flare, then run a little bead on one side, go to the other side run another little bead......then go to the other, REPEAT until done:lol: Make sure you test the welder on a scrap piece of metal before doing it though, so you can set up the voltage and wire speed:coolio:

[KenshinZero]

true.... and im hoping he knows how to weld good :lol:

Dont just run a steady bead.....make a bunch of tack welds along the flare, then run a little bead on one side, go to the other side run another little bead......then go to the other, REPEAT until done:lol: Make sure you test the welder on a scrap piece of metal before doing it though, so you can set up the voltage and wire speed:coolio:

theres alot more to welding than i thought, lol

[clutch1]

Either get metal flares, or buy fiberglass fenders and do all the work on there... like they said fg molded to metal is going to end badly eventually..

FG on FG is a permanent bond, and so is a good welded piece. metal and fg will expand at different rates and cause cracks, not to mention it's just an overall much weaker bond between the 2 materials.

[bdyman]

As for how deep the vent goes on the top part it is 2 1/4"- flush which puts the fender close to the fender frame top rail. The Vented part is 3/4"-2 3/4" and it doesn't even come close to hitting the frame underneith. Another reason for using the fiberglass fender flares is bc they are solid flares and it will help stiffen up the front fenders since my front bumper sits so low.



its called upper frame rail, i was askin about if wat your doing is going to hit the upper rail, ok so why not make a bracket so the bumper doesnt move around on ya, a fender flare is not going to make a bumper stiffer, brackets will

and i wont even touch the whole welding thing becaseu it could go south real fast

[volfenhag_alero]

I building brackets for the front bumper as well, but I was talking about stiffening up the fenders for side impact, bc I had a lady open her truck door into my driver side front fender and she crushed it in. That's why I'm doing it the way I'm doing it

[bdyman]

ohhhhhhhh, well sorry but the only way to do that would be to use thicker metal and make your own fender, or use high strenght steel like bmw and mercedes does and make your own fender

a flare isnt going to make metal stiffer or stronger metal makes metal stiffer and stronger, thats why i said do them in metal

[SouthDakotAlero]

ohhhhhhhh, well sorry but the only way to do that would be to use thicker metal and make your own fender, or use high strenght steel like bmw and mercedes does and make your own fender

a flare isnt going to make metal stiffer or stronger metal makes metal stiffer and stronger, thats why i said do them in metal

I don't think you're understanding it correctly. It sounds like the fender buckled inward when the door hit it. Fiberglass isn't going to buckle like metal would, so if there was a large flare there it would absorb the impact and the result would be damage to the flare and not deformation in the metal fender. Therefore, it is strengthening the fender, just not in the sense you are thinking.

[volfenhag_alero]

^^^ Thank you for getting what I was trying to say

[Dhoyle]

oh crap, *gets ready for the Bdyman A-Bomb*

[deathwish666]

oh snap...

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

this is going to become a really good argument.....

[bdyman]

ok so tell me how a fiberglass flare is going to change a metal fender, and how is a door opening going to buckle a fender, the person must have superman poweres to buckle a fender

fiberglass cracks upon a impact, a piece of fiberglass iam sorry is not going to make something more durable,stronger, and dent resistant
so i see what your saying i do but fiberglass does not make metal stronger

[volfenhag_alero]

The fender flares I got are solid, not like normal fender flares... I don't have the fender wells in the car either... the lady opened the door and I guess the wind caught it and it smashed in my fender... The truck was gone when I got back to my car and noticed the damage... Fiberglass is easier to repair when chipped or cracked, than it is to reshape and reconstruct metal, that is why I'm using fiberglass fender flares.

[Dhoyle]

so far soo good, lols * puts on a flax jacket and helmet*

[TheMeaningOfLife]

Let the man do his work, its not for us to tell him how to do something.

[rustyballs_69]

Let the man do his work, its not for us to tell him how to do something.

Amend brother!

[Nate's Alero]

this could all end bad...

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

I'm going to wait an see the finished product before I comment about it.

[Nate's Alero]

I'm going to wait an see the finished product before I comment about it.

agreed

[pimpalero2003]

Bdyman I got in a hit and run front wasn't molded small crack in bumper and buckled the hell out of the fender and then another time drive scraped badly took small little chunk out of bumper and buckled my other fender. So my fiberglass bumper is stronger then my fenders but I have like one of the first aed bumpers richies old one.

[paulyb]

just my 2 cents,

while you have the fenders off, cut arround the wheel arch move it out and use that to form the wide body,bodyman might be able to better exsplain, i forgot what its called, but its used in the vip style to make room for the wide wheels and serious camber, and bring the wheel lipright to the fender line when stretcing the tire.

which begs he question, what wheels are you going to use so that it doesnt stupid with wide fenders and your tires sunk into them.

[Gr1m]

man i would ruin that fender in a heartbeat with my air ride lol looks like its coming along nicely, keep us updating with pics

[Mr_Reed]

Looks good man, keep us updated.

[volfenhag_alero]

The wheels I'm planning on putting on is Konig Hotswap 18"x9" with a 90mm lip in the front and 18"x9" in the back with a 120mm lip... The lip size may change... I have to measure it out to make sure once the fenders and rear quarter panels are done

[billytheman1188]

so your still going to mold the fiberglass flares to the metal fender?

[cliffordwoeller]

I think its going to look good, however I dunno anything about body work so I cant really comment on what the others are saying is gonna happen, but if it was me i would just do all metal just cause I wouldnt want to have to worry about it getting messed up as bad as they say it will.

God knows I have wasted a ton of money on stuff for the ho only for it to be a waste cause I didnt do it the right way the first time.

[volfenhag_alero]

My vents on my fenders should be done this evening... I'll post pics as soon as I'm done and the are on the car... The flares won't be on it yet... they still have yet to come in and they will only be primed until I'm ready for my new paint job.

[billytheman1188]

My vents on my fenders should be done this evening... I'll post pics as soon as I'm done and the are on the car... The flares won't be on it yet... they still have yet to come in and they will only be primed until I'm ready for my new paint job.

ok....so you are molding them on :No: after a couple of months you will regret it, but w/e its your car do what you want:lol:

[cliffordwoeller]

ok....so you are molding them on :No: after a couple of months you will regret it, but w/e its your car do what you want:lol:

yeah i think he's already established that he's gonna do what ever he wants..... not that thats a bad thing for him. but it may just be a bad thing in the long run.

I know for me it takes me being stubborn before I realize that sometimes my way or my wants are not always the best way of doing things

[kwhauck]

The wheels I'm planning on putting on is Konig Hotswap 18"x9" with a 90mm lip in the front and 18"x9" in the back with a 120mm lip... The lip size may change... I have to measure it out to make sure once the fenders and rear quarter panels are done

what are the offsets....

[clutch1]

Bdyman I got in a hit and run front wasn't molded small crack in bumper and buckled the hell out of the fender and then another time drive scraped badly took small little chunk out of bumper and buckled my other fender. So my fiberglass bumper is stronger then my fenders but I have like one of the first aed bumpers richies old one.

Most fiberglass is going to be like that. It'll bend and crack, but not dent. For example, when I totalled my Alero, the FG fenders took the full force of the hit, and came out with lots of chips and a few cracks, but overall they had their shape still and could be fixed in an afternoon. If my fenders were metal they would've gotten dented/smashed beyond recognition. It's because fiberglass has memory, take a hammer to a metal fender, it'll leave a dent. Take a hammer to a fiberglass fender and it'll either leave a hole, or just crack and return back to it's shape.

But anyways :p

To those saying to just let him work... we're trying to save him headaches later when the fender flares inevittably crack...

[cherrington17]

but like he said... he doesn't have the access to metal shaping tools.

let him add the fiberglass ones. see if any of us like it, and if/when it cracks/breaks... THEN find access to metal ones and do it again.

[billytheman1188]

let him add the fiberglass ones. see if any of us like it, and if/when it cracks/breaks... THEN find access to metal ones and do it again.

cherry....that was by far the dumbest thing you have ever posted:lol: why not do it the right way the first time? im sure there are shops or metal places around him that can make a metal copy of his fiberglass ones. sure you may have to pay a chunk of $$$ but it will be done right and you wont have to worry about it in the future. but im sick of saying this.....

go ahead and try to mold that to the fender:lol:

[pimpalero2003]

Just crack in gel coat bumpers solid no flex at all

[paulyb]

let him do it his way and when it looks like shit we can laugh at him. he knows what he's doing 'he made the bumper' didnt he...

[volfenhag_alero]

Here's some pics of the fenders back on the car... they are bondoed but not sanded yet... I will be sanding them down tomorrow... My fender flares are supposed to be here at the end of the week... They shipped out friday morning.

http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290058_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290059_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290061_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290062_large.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4207/581/23015290063_large.jpg

[guiguilandry]

I like it, I love the custom works....

And for the people that say that FG will Crack, my hood is a metal one with a custom vent made of fiberglass and it hasn't cracked if you use the right adhesive it will last forever, now they do glue that are stiffer then weld...

It will crack if your wheel hit it while rolling or something but other than that it shouldn't crack if it was made properly

[Valley olds]

So far it looks ok, but are you going to do something with the rear also? I dont know, the front fenders look kind of disproportionate to the rear now.

[pimpalero2003]

Wrong it will crack no matter what in time they have different properties!!
Go on fiberglass forums and say glass on metal will last forever!

[pimpalero2003]

http://fiberglassforums.com/showthread.php?t=4792
There's the sticky if you do it proparly it will last for awhile and depending where you live it will eventually crack

[paulyb]

what the hell is the sewage plumbing pipe coming threw your fender ? looks like my drainage pipe..lol

flares cant possible look good with those,unless your going to flare it out below the vent line, just running the flares to the bottom is going to offset horrible

[Eric Neal]

i think it looks pretty great man. yeah it does look kind disproportional from the back but im sure you have something in mind for that. what do you plan on doing to the rear?

[bdyman]

not to shabby, is that evercoats duraglass??? if ya used there new stuff, it would have been better for ya its made for stuff like what you did,
fusor makes a adhesive to bond 2 different material together its great stuff

[cherrington17]

what the hell is the sewage plumbing pipe coming threw your fender ? looks like my drainage pipe..lol


i'm pretty sure thats the tubing for the bottom of the stock air intake...

[kwhauck]

i want to know the offset of your rims...

[Spilner521]

^ So do I

What's the offset on the rims?

[Gr1m]

hmmm not a fan so far, but that could change from you sanding and primer. atleast someone on here is getting their hands dirty! keep it up

[volfenhag_alero]

I had to postpone sanding bc we are having extremely bad weather lately... I sanded some but not much... The back will have some special things done to it, but you'll just have to wait and see... my fender flares are supposed to be here tomorrow afternoon... I will post more pics as soon as I can, but I'm going to a concert tomorrow night... As for the offset on the wheels I'm getting... I'm still not totally sure yet until I get my fender flares and rear end done

[jayson_waltz]

looking good, i'm not usually a fan of wide body kits but i'll see when the finished product comes.

[kwhauck]

just check konig's site, hotswap isn't even available in an 18x9,

and in order for a 18x9 wheel to fit right on the front with a 3.5 fender flare you are looking at a -43 offset, good luck with that.....

[volfenhag_alero]

My bad... the size of the Wheels was 18"x9.5"... I also was looking at the Lace wheels in a 18"x9.5"... They will have a deep lip to make the wide body look right.

[kwhauck]

ok so then with a 18x9.5 you are still at a -37 offset........yeah good luck with that.....

[volfenhag_alero]

Well I got my fender flares in today... they don't seem as big as the one they had pictured, but I'll make them work... also they are only a 2" flare

[heineck]

post pics

[paulyb]

ok ive been wanting to say this,

Its not a fucking wide body kit, wide body kits use wide fenders, not fender flares.............my yukon has bush wacker cut out flares, so does that make my truck a wide body???????????? do I have a wide body yukon. should i add a lame wing. an no deep lip rims dont help with wide body kits, wide rims do that for you....unless your going to add a spacer to push the rim and tire out more.........

[volfenhag_alero]

Why do you have to be a hater... 350z's have wide body kits that are just fender flares that connect to the body kit... same with the tiburon... the TT... and how about this keep you stupid comments to yourself... at least I'm making my Alero what I want it to be instead of just photoshoping what I want it to be.

[CiscoPath]

Though I don't believe paulyb had to sound like like an a-hole, he is correct. Your terminology is off. What you're doing is not widebody. There's full custom widebody where the front fenders, rear quarter panel, and bumpers are widen.......
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2268/2380938022_23112bd7f0.jpg

and then there's widebody where the fenders and quarter panels are "flared" but the sideskirts are extended out to match the flares and the bottom of the front/rear bumpers are flared to match as well
http://estrictlyforeign.com/images/LUMMA3_jpg_large_LN.jpg
http://estrictlyforeign.com/images/LUMMA5_jpg_large_LN.jpg

Adding two inches to your fender does not a widebody make. And no where in the entire thread do you mention additional work so unless you're going to go the extra mile and fab up the sideskirts and lower bumpers, then call them what they are : Flared F1 Style Metal Fenders

This....
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/13179707/aview/flares_1.jpg

and this.....
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/13179707/aview/flare_5.jpg

are not widebody

[volfenhag_alero]

I'm doing more than just putting on fender flares... they are just a fraction of what I am going to do... and I already have side skirts they just need to be modified to improve fitment.

[CiscoPath]

lol....well, it'll definitely be in your best interest to be more forthcoming about your plans. Lotta people love to nickpick over any and everything. Not telling you anything ya don't already know. Trust me, once you get it molded and painted, the atmosphere around here will change. But like I said, if you gonna do the widebody and do plan on eventually marketing it, do it right and do it big.

[volfenhag_alero]

I plan doing it real big... it's just going to take some time to make it right

[Kilroy]

lol....well, it'll definitely be in your best interest to be more forthcoming about your plans. Lotta people love to nickpick over any and everything. Not telling you anything ya don't already know. Trust me, once you get it molded and painted, the atmosphere around here will change. But like I said, if you gonna do the widebody and do plan on eventually marketing it, do it right and do it big.

I've discovered that while I do get good info from this forum regarding my Alero, there is also one BIG HUGE problem thaty I think brings it way down. First of all, apparently if you don't clear your corners, then you may as well not post pictures of your car. Also, if you make one tiny mistake, you get sh*t on and treated like you are a total idiot, by someone who just happens to know different and they act like they are Gods, and they know all and you suddenly know nothing.

Personally, I think this.....Do whatever the heck you want to do with your car. If you want to put a whale tail on it, then do it. IT IS YOUR CAR< NOT ANYONE ELSE'S. I could care less what someone thinks about my car. Just because it doesn't look like their car doesn't make it any less or their's any better. Put whatever flares you want on it, put whatever tires you want on it PUT WHATEVER WING YOU WANT ON IT!!!! and paint it any which way you want. IT IS YOUR CAR, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S!!!!

I am actually sick and tired of the know it alls on here who think that their way of modding the Alero is the only way. Modding has always been about doing what YOU want to your car. If modding was dome the way some people on this forum say it should be done, then going to a car show would be like going to an automotive dealership, the cars would all look the same!!!

To anyone that has anything negative to say about what I just said, you might as well keep it to yourself, cause I ain't going to waste my time responding to you.

Everyone ELSE, have a nice day! :beerchug:

[Caboose73]

I've discovered that while I do get good info from this forum regarding my Alero, there is also one BIG HUGE problem thaty I think brings it way down. First of all, apparently if you don't clear your corners, then you may as well not post pictures of your car. Also, if you make one tiny mistake, you get sh*t on and treated like you are a total idiot, by someone who just happens to know different and they act like they are Gods, and they know all and you suddenly know nothing.

Personally, I think this.....Do whatever the heck you want to do with your car. If you want to put a whale tail on it, then do it. IT IS YOUR CAR< NOT ANYONE ELSE'S. I could care less what someone thinks about my car. Just because it doesn't look like their car doesn't make it any less or their's any better. Put whatever flares you want on it, put whatever tires you want on it PUT WHATEVER WING YOU WANT ON IT!!!! and paint it any which way you want. IT IS YOUR CAR, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S!!!!

I am actually sick and tired of the know it alls on here who think that their way of modding the Alero is the only way. Modding has always been about doing what YOU want to your car. If modding was dome the way some people on this forum say it should be done, then going to a car show would be like going to an automotive dealership, the cars would all look the same!!!

To anyone that has anything negative to say about what I just said, you might as well keep it to yourself, cause I ain't going to waste my time responding to you.

Everyone ELSE, have a nice day! :beerchug:


Couldn't agree with you more :thumb:

[hok666]

x3...........

[kwhauck]

I've discovered that while I do get good info from this forum regarding my Alero, there is also one BIG HUGE problem thaty I think brings it way down. First of all, apparently if you don't clear your corners, then you may as well not post pictures of your car. Also, if you make one tiny mistake, you get sh*t on and treated like you are a total idiot, by someone who just happens to know different and they act like they are Gods, and they know all and you suddenly know nothing.

Personally, I think this.....Do whatever the heck you want to do with your car. If you want to put a whale tail on it, then do it. IT IS YOUR CAR< NOT ANYONE ELSE'S. I could care less what someone thinks about my car. Just because it doesn't look like their car doesn't make it any less or their's any better. Put whatever flares you want on it, put whatever tires you want on it PUT WHATEVER WING YOU WANT ON IT!!!! and paint it any which way you want. IT IS YOUR CAR, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S!!!!

I am actually sick and tired of the know it alls on here who think that their way of modding the Alero is the only way. Modding has always been about doing what YOU want to your car. If modding was dome the way some people on this forum say it should be done, then going to a car show would be like going to an automotive dealership, the cars would all look the same!!!

To anyone that has anything negative to say about what I just said, you might as well keep it to yourself, cause I ain't going to waste my time responding to you.

Everyone ELSE, have a nice day! :beerchug:


LOLOLOLOL:haha: :haha: :haha:

i think he is just a little butt hurt about me and spilner telling him he was wrong on the supercharger thread......

[volfenhag_alero]

He's right... there's a lot of "know it alls" on this forum and it's messed up when they bag on guys that are modding their cars the way they want to... and at this point nobody in the world has an Alero like mine, bc I have one off front, one off front fenders, one off side skirts and I'll have a one off paint job... Honestly I don't care if any of ya'll like my car, bc I know people where I live do and people at car shows that I attend do... If all you can do is bag and talk shit about someone elses car, it's only bc you're jealous that yours doesn't compare and you wish that your car could look like that or that you would have thought to do stuff like what I'm doing.

[CiscoPath]

^^man, you're gonna start a pissing battle calling others jealous. Most of us fall into the "believe it when I see it" category. Some of them really know what they're talking about but don't have good social skills. Then there are those who rag on any and every not because they want what you got but because it's just who they are. All you can do is not sweat the hype. Saying people are jealous of what you got makes you as big a butthead as they are. And I agree, this board is horrible in terms of how members interact with other. But that all falls on the inforcing of the regulations of the board, but that's an un-winnable battle. Just humble yourself and when you finish your project, don't become a dink like the same people you're putting down.

[hok666]

^^man, you're gonna start a pissing battle calling others jealous. Most of us fall into the "believe it when I see it" category. Some of them really know what they're talking about but don't have good social skills. Then there are those who rag on any and every not because they want what you got but because it's just who they are. All you can do is not sweat the hype. Saying people are jealous of what you got makes you as big a buttheaded as they are. And I agree, this board is horrible in terms of how members interact with other. But that all falls on the inforcing of the regulations of the board, but that's an un-winnable battle. Just humble yourself and when you finish your project, don't become a dink like the some people you're putting down.


Damm you said it bro.. I would have, eventually, thought of something intelligent to say just like you:p but that's just I'm a slow and deep thinker:p

[Oldsnut]

Dude just finish the project without posting anymore about it and when you are done post away. Good Luck with the car.

[billytheman1188]

He's right... there's a lot of "know it alls" on this forum and it's messed up when they bag on guys that are modding their cars the way they want to... and at this point nobody in the world has an Alero like mine, bc I have one off front, one off front fenders, one off side skirts and I'll have a one off paint job... Honestly I don't care if any of ya'll like my car, bc I know people where I live do and people at car shows that I attend do... If all you can do is bag and talk shit about someone elses car, it's only bc you're jealous that yours doesn't compare and you wish that your car could look like that or that you would have thought to do stuff like what I'm doing.

Im not trying to tell you what to do to your car..... im just trying to help you do it the correct way so you dont have to keep re-doing it. But you dont listen to the people who actually know stuff about body work. have fun fixing it again later on and having it look like crap from the cracking.....:badidea::No::nuts::Rage:

[billytheman1188]

I've discovered that while I do get good info from this forum regarding my Alero, there is also one BIG HUGE problem thaty I think brings it way down. First of all, apparently if you don't clear your corners, then you may as well not post pictures of your car. Also, if you make one tiny mistake, you get sh*t on and treated like you are a total idiot, by someone who just happens to know different and they act like they are Gods, and they know all and you suddenly know nothing.

Personally, I think this.....Do whatever the heck you want to do with your car. If you want to put a whale tail on it, then do it. IT IS YOUR CAR< NOT ANYONE ELSE'S. I could care less what someone thinks about my car. Just because it doesn't look like their car doesn't make it any less or their's any better. Put whatever flares you want on it, put whatever tires you want on it PUT WHATEVER WING YOU WANT ON IT!!!! and paint it any which way you want. IT IS YOUR CAR, NOT SOMEONE ELSE'S!!!!

I am actually sick and tired of the know it alls on here who think that their way of modding the Alero is the only way. Modding has always been about doing what YOU want to your car. If modding was dome the way some people on this forum say it should be done, then going to a car show would be like going to an automotive dealership, the cars would all look the same!!!

To anyone that has anything negative to say about what I just said, you might as well keep it to yourself, cause I ain't going to waste my time responding to you.

Everyone ELSE, have a nice day! :beerchug:

so.....do it your way when its not the RIGHT way. im talking about the flares..... i really could give two shits about what you or anybody else does to their car. Im just trying to help the guy so he does it the right way and doesnt half ass it cause hes too lazy. go put a big wing on your car and look like an ass, nobody cares. all i care about and a few other guys who do body work, is that its done right. Obviously this guy is taking your advice and not listening to us cause its his own car and were gonna be jealous when it starts cracking:lol:

[paulyb]

Why do you have to be a hater... 350z's have wide body kits that are just fender flares that connect to the body kit... same with the tiburon... the TT... and how about this keep you stupid comments to yourself... at least I'm making my Alero what I want it to be instead of just photoshoping what I want it to be.

so as i said and was proven its not a wide body.......so go find the ricers guide to modding and re read it...fender flares dont constitute a wide body.....

and i laugh at that comment of "at least I'm making my Alero what I want it to be instead of just photoshoping what I want it to be" sorry mine is sitting in the garage torn down, and never have i chopped a "this is what I want it to look like" thow i did chop a version of the kato combat that im trying to finish, for a diffrent style...but guess i could just buy one and say i made it like you did......

your cars your car and do with it what you want, i dont care, but when you get called ot on your wrongful use of words try not to cry over it.....calling that a wide body may fly with your ricer high school friends, like your shitty wing does, but in the real world its not......

[Dhoyle]

wow? uhm isnt there a rule for not flaming other peoples alero's paulyb? im just curious if you have read the forum rules or not?
Heres the link incase you havent yet, look at Silents second post, http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68

[YALEROYNOT]

I like it, I love the custom works....

And for the people that say that FG will Crack, my hood is a metal one with a custom vent made of fiberglass and it hasn't cracked if you use the right adhesive it will last forever, now they do glue that are stiffer then weld...

It will crack if your wheel hit it while rolling or something but other than that it shouldn't crack if it was made properly

Wrong it will crack no matter what in time they have different properties!!
Go on fiberglass forums and say glass on metal will last forever!

I have to agree with pimp, go on FGF and ask about the glass and metal, they expand and contract at different rates so it will be fone for a while but will crack eventually, if done correctlly with the right materials it could last longer then most would think.

http://fiberglassforums.com/showthread.php?t=4792
There's the sticky if you do it proparly it will last for awhile and depending where you live it will eventually crack

ok ive been wanting to say this,

Its not a effing wide body kit, wide body kits use wide fenders, not fender flares.............my yukon has bush wacker cut out flares, so does that make my truck a wide body???????????? do I have a wide body yukon. should i add a lame wing. an no deep lip rims dont help with wide body kits, wide rims do that for you....unless your going to add a spacer to push the rim and tire out more.........

what about this build isnt a wide body ? cause its not an off the shelf kit ? he is taking fender flares and molding them into the fenders making the body of the car wider, last time i checked the fenders were part of the body, since there is no "wide body" kit for the alero I guess one cant be made :rolleyes2:.

good luck with the build and if you need some help or postive feed back check out www.fiberglassforums.com/ (http://www.fiberglassforums.com/). there is some professional talent there and everyone is willing to help with a project any way they can.

cause as i can see everyone here is so supportive of someone trying to make there car custom with there own hands, instead lets get in a pissing contest over what a "wide body" is......... who the fuck cares

[volfenhag_alero]

^^^ Thanks... I'm not bashing on anybodies Alero... I'm just making mine different than everyone elses, but you all keep hating... If you don't like it, don't read and or post comments... It won't hurt my feelings any... bc I know what I'm doing with my Alero... I have several friends and relatives here that do body work for a living and have been doing it for 6 years or longer... They are the ones helping me with this project... I understand that your Alero is tore down, but that's not an excuse to bash me bc I'm finally making my what I want it to be and another thing... I made my front and I made my fenders... The only body parts that were purchased for my Alero was my rear bumper, side skirts and wing... At least my Alero is what I want it to be... You can call me a ricer or whatever all you want, but at least I'm getting out there and being different and representing everything that an Alero can be with a little work and a lot of imagination and planning

[Kilroy]

so..... go put a big wing on your car and look like an ass, nobody cares.

Obviously you DO care, because you are saying a big wing WILL make you look like an ass. Maybe someone likes a big wing. Obviously you don't, but you still feel it your duty to say that one will look like an ass with a big wing. This is precisely what I was talking about. People saying if you do this you will be an ass, and if you don't do this you will be an ass. Giving tips on how a perticular job is done is okay, but telling him it will make him look like an ass is just plain wrong.

And Quack, first off, you couldn't of picked a more perfect name. Sceond of all, if you want a device designed to cool incoming air laced in the middle of an engine running closs to if not over 200 degrees, then all the power to you. If you remove that, the dain from a LOT less restriction will probably out-weigh any supposed cooling effect from that small of an intercooler. I bet you run one of those things in your intake that is supposed to swirl the air and give you better mileage, and probably also have the magnets on your fuel line to "align the molecules" for better mileage. Also, if you actually read my post, instead of just enough so you could immediatelly bash it, I never said it was impossible. Now, why not put on a chicken suit and go cross a road!!!!

[CiscoPath]

what about this build isnt a wide body ? cause its not an off the shelf kit ? he is taking fender flares and molding them into the fenders making the body of the car wider, last time i checked the fenders were part of the body, since there is no "wide body" kit for the alero I guess one cant be made
First off, you really dug yourself into a hole. Name one person that said a widebody had to be bought off the shelf? Where did you pull that from? Don't make comments that have no basis to the ongoing conversation. Oh, and last time I checked, widebody literally meant the widening of the body. I've personally never heard of a widebodyparts kit, but that's just me. From your reasoning, wheels are part of the "body" as well, so all he really needs to do is put on some 3 inch wheel spacers and BAM! INSTANT WIDEBODY, right? You can't accentuate a portion of the whole and warp it up in a fits-all title. Do you call a car with only an aftermarket front bumper "kitted"? Fender flares" can give a car that widebody look.....................................but it's not a true widebody and shouldn't be labeled as one until it is.

lets get in a pissing contest over what a "wide body" is......... who the eff cares
People who know the difference care. You can't come on a website and call your project something that real car enthusiasts and bodywork people know it's not. It makes it hard to put faith in his work if he can't even give his work a proper name. That's like me starting a thread called "Twin charging project" and all I have are two of those eSupercharger electric craps plumbed between my TB and CAI. Asking why this isn't a widebody kit only shows how much you're NOT in "the know". I asked him if he was gonna change the bumpers and sideskirts as well. He said he was. He knows what I meant about it being a widebody. Apparently, you don't. So don't pick up arms in a battle you aren't "knowledgeably" equipped for.

And volfen, be careful of who you allow to be your mouthpiece. Character is also determined by the character of the company you align yourself with. And you said in one of your posts you weren't gonna respond to any of the crap because it was beneath you. Don't be a hypocrite. Heed your own advice and oldsnuts' :Unless you're gonna stop being baited by every putdown said, dont post again in this thread until you're finished. If you keep this up, you're gonna finish the car and come here looking for accolades, only to get crapped on not because it doesn't look good but due to you being an ass during the process. And I'm late to all this, but from what I read, your credibility here is mud. If you want to be a key member bringing something new to the community and want respect for your work, then act like it. But if everyone who gives advice or criticism, good or bad, is a hater, you might as well leave the board now. It's already overrun with aasholes.

[volfenhag_alero]

I've done what everybody has asked... put up progress pics... show proof... and still Me and/or my Alero will ever be good enough for any of ya'll. I don't care... I love my car and the plans I have for it. I'm the only Alero modded in this area and I'm proud of that fact. I honestly don't need ya'lls approval on anything I'm doing. If I would have known that everybody was against each other on this site, I probably wouldn't have ever joined. I haven't done anything wrong to any of ya'll and yet you still bash me for being different and doing things my way. It's my car let me do with it what I wish to.

[billytheman1188]

I've done what everybody has asked... put up progress pics... show proof... and still Me and/or my Alero will ever be good enough for any of ya'll. I don't care... I love my car and the plans I have for it. I'm the only Alero modded in this area and I'm proud of that fact. I honestly don't need ya'lls approval on anything I'm doing. If I would have known that everybody was against each other on this site, I probably wouldn't have ever joined. I haven't done anything wrong to any of ya'll and yet you still bash me for being different and doing things my way. It's my car let me do with it what I wish to.

omg.....why does every thread have to end up with people crying about the other people on the site. ITS THE INTERNET, GET OVER IT! were gonna say what we think.....i painted my engine blue, and i got shit for it....did i sit there and cry like a baby, no. I manned up and did the smart thing....get rid of it. but thats a different case, im not bashing you. pauly went a little over board..... do what you want, but please stop crying, along with kilroy.....i feel like im talking to a bunch of teenage girls here

[NewbieAlero]

eeeeh booosh! =D

all i gotta say is, i think it's cool for someone to put any mod on an alero.

since around here in my city, the only alero's that i've seen have maybe a wing, and rims. no bodykit or anything really fancy to my liking.

i cant say whether or not its a wide body kit since i have no experience so i'll shut up on that.

but to make my point, i like the creativity of your car. keep it up

[NickAlero2000]

"Twin charging project"

Quoted for Epic Win.
:lol:

But yea dude, theres gonna be people who hate on it, but just let them say whatever, if you don't feed people they shutup. Simple life lesson right there...

[Kilroy]

omg.....why does every thread have to end up with people crying about the other people on the site. ITS THE INTERNET, GET OVER IT! were gonna say what we think.....i painted my engine blue, and i got shit for it....did i sit there and cry like a baby, no. I manned up and did the smart thing....get rid of it. but thats a different case, im not bashing you. pauly went a little over board..... do what you want, but please stop crying, along with kilroy.....i feel like im talking to a bunch of teenage girls here

You got rid of your car because someone on a forum said the engine shouldn't be blue?? Damn, do you jump off a bridge because you hear it will make you look "cool"???:scpimp:

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

wow, this thread turned to shit. a mod or admin needs to clean all the whining out of here. Probably take it down to 2 pages. OR can start a new thread with just volfenhag's pics and delete this thread altogether.

Volfenhag: I won't make any negative comments unless I don't like the finished product. I might make constructive comments in the meantime. Keep up the work and keep us updated, and don't be discouraged by the whiners.

[billytheman1188]

You got rid of your car because someone on a forum said the engine shouldn't be blue?? Damn, do you jump off a bridge because you hear it will make you look "cool"???:scpimp:

i never got rid of my car, i dont know what your reading. WHERE DID I SAY I GOT RID OF IT!?!?! wow......

[econewb22]

^^^
no. I manned up and did the smart thing....get rid of it.

just sayin i think thats where he got it from...im not gettin into this fight:lol:

but anyways...volfenhag the cars lookin good bro...not a fan of the barcode on the hood but to each his own...fenders are lookin good so far tho

[kwhauck]

i'm still interested to see what you end up doing for your rims with such a rediculously huge negative offset....

[cherrington17]

keep it up volf... your the only one trying it. we need results!

[billytheman1188]

^^^


just sayin i think thats where he got it from...im not gettin into this fight:lol:

but anyways...volfenhag the cars lookin good bro...not a fan of the barcode on the hood but to each his own...fenders are lookin good so far tho

LOL....any person with common sense knows somebody wouldnt get rid of a car just because they painted pieces of the engine..... im amazed he would even think that:lol::lol::lol:

[Bad99Olds]

volfgang, do you plan to have the fenders extend completely over the tires? and are you stretching the bumpers to match?

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

^ front bumper looked way too wide to begin with, but it did look like it could be tweaked out a little.

[volfenhag_alero]

I plan on widening the rear bumper, front bumper and side skirts to match what I'm doing to the fenders. I have to get more time off from work to do more. I'm doing all I can with all the bad weather we've been having lately.

[Oldsman]

well i see this thread has gotten out of hand and needs to be cleaned and infractions handed out................Thanks...........Online Mafia:yahoo:

[paulyb]

just an idea, but for the rear why not locate a wide body for an accord or a diffret style 4 door and make that fit. Im not sure your plans for te rear yet,just an idea i was thinking.

another was the doors, since a the body would be exstended out,i would think panels for the doors would be inorder to, i was thinking you could use side modlings fom the ga rk sport kit, or get them and d some work to them to fit your application, since the flare is goig to have to make its was on the rear door edge.

[Bad99Olds]

just an idea, but for the rear why not locate a wide body for an accord or a diffret style 4 door and make that fit. Im not sure your plans for te rear yet,just an idea i was thinking.

another was the doors, since a the body would be exstended out,i would think panels for the doors would be inorder to, i was thinking you could use side modlings fom the ga rk sport kit, or get them and d some work to them to fit your application, since the flare is goig to have to make its was on the rear door edge.

loaded with typos, haha, but hes got some really good ideas. i think it would really help the flow. The door pannel idea is deffinitly worth looking into, im not sure how it would look with super flared fenders and bumper, and then standard doors. might look a little odd, but i have horrible imagination, damn cable tv. be sure to keep posting pics of progress. I am really excited to see this finished. My friend has a widebody 350z and its pure sex on wheels.

[Trickyslick]

want to see picts installed...

[volfenhag_alero]

PaulyB... my car is a two door and those RK Sport Door Panels for the Grand Am will fit just fine but the are expensive and I don't think that they would be worth it... I wish that they had that rear bumper for the Alero bc it looks so much better that the AAS Rear.

[paulyb]

PaulyB... my car is a two door and those RK Sport Door Panels for the Grand Am will fit just fine but the are expensive and I don't think that they would be worth it... I wish that they had that rear bumper for the Alero bc it looks so much better that the AAS Rear.

ahhh ok, for some reason i thought it was a 4 dr. As far the the panels, it would be worth it in my opion, the reason is, if the wide body pulls the fenders out another 1-2 inches your not going to have a nice smooth flow. with the door panels, you'll be pulling off a matched exstended panel like the fenders and qauters...but m sure you have you design figred out, i just figured id trow it out there...

and with a 2 door it will be alot easier to fnd a wide body rear quater, try like an accord or intergra, there will be some modding needed, but n the end it wouldbe worth it to pull the true wide body look.

[slowandlow]

i want fenders that i can rool with my weels tucked up in to the fenders.

[jayson_waltz]

^ There are people here that have done something like that with stock fenders still, except they roll not "rool" and they have wheels not "weels". its a nice combination you should try it.

[pimpalero2003]

Wow!! I get banned for a year for saying the word shit in a thread.
Let the dude do what he Wants!! There's only one other person on this site that can say they made there own front bumper!!! I'm not a fan of the fenders but he is doing good work. And who cares if it doesn't classifie as a widebody to you. And it's rice to you hell maybe your car falls into his classfication of rice.

[pimpalero2003]

And again with dude above me why flame and crap for no damn reason even though I just craped.

[Th0r]

Whatever happened to this guy?

[Nate's Alero]

i'm curious as well... maybe the car got up and ran off

[kwhauck]

i'm guessing he wrecked or sold the alero since he hasn't been online since three months after this thread was created......

[Nate's Alero]

or decided he wanted to be rice instead of eating them, and is too disgraced to show his face here

[hok666]

that guy does some great body work including his front bumper

[sfi3400]

ok not being a prick here jus straight up talk, why would you want a wide body kit=more weight=slower qt time. also wide body=RICER. again im not being a prick just straight up talk

[pimpalero2003]

Has a new name and is silent disburator new name neverdoneusa or something that's his website posted in his profile and also a new member on the forum.

[cherrington17]

Has a new name and is silent disburator new name neverdoneusa or something that's his website posted in his profile and also a new member on the forum.

thought that was powerlifter?