rear speaker box idea

[AleroDrime]

im imagining a box that would extend the center console to the rear seat

THis box would replace those sucky rear cup holders with a set of ones available at a marine supplier, they're for boats and would be much more effective.

if order to give the box more purpose, i was imagining it what a 6x9 on each side.

the issue in my mind is this: how wide would the box have to be so that the magnets of the 6x9s are a healthy disance apart

[jayson_waltz]

the entended console with cupholders may not be too bad, but would you even hook the 2 extra speakers in unless you have a stero with 6 channel capability?

[worknprog.99]

im imagining a box that would extend the center console to the rear seat

THis box would replace those sucky rear cup holders with a set of ones available at a marine supplier, they're for boats and would be much more effective.

if order to give the box more purpose, i was imagining it what a 6x9 on each side.

the issue in my mind is this: how wide would the box have to be so that the magnets of the 6x9s are a healthy disance apart

if im picturing correct in my head couldnt you just put in a dividing wall on the inside of the console?

[AleroDrime]

ruff draft

[worknprog.99]

now these designs would go behind the front seats? as an extension from the stock one?

[jayson_waltz]

the side option i'd think they would have to be offset to get enought room, unless you can find really shallow mount speakers and a thin divider, maybe masonite wud work good for a divider. top option, i'd be worried about stuff getting into the speaker.

[AleroDrime]

yes it would meet up to where the cup holders on the back of the center console are now, this thought was origanlly for somthing to go between bucket seats in an el camino i was looking at that had a messed up bench seat

[Gr1m]

this idea sounds fucking retarded, just upgrade your speaker components.

[AleroDrime]

figured the grills would be enough protection from dust and what not

[AleroDrime]

it was an idea to upgrade rear cupholders cause they suck, and i decided a speaker box would be an origanal addition to do it with

[itsbmw]

Just leave it alone, upgrade your speakers and substage before pulling stuff like that. It'd look out of place IMO..

[jayson_waltz]

this idea sounds fucking retarded, just upgrade your speaker components.
actually i agree, but i'm just trying to be helpful with his question.

[worknprog.99]

we have rear cup holders ;) lol didnt know that

[AleroDrime]

my sedan does adn they fucking suck, a drink tipped out and spilled on interstate curves yesterday

[AleroDrime]

now the car has a faint Durrs Scotch odor, 12yr

[shez]

yeah seriously... worst idea ever.

[AleroDrime]

then any ideas what to do about the cupholders

[worknprog.99]

maybe go to walmart and see if you can find some rubber cup holder liners to help grip more?

[AleroDrime]

its not the bottom grip, theres no side grip, picture a U adn thats what the look like, horrible cheap lazy GM last minute design

[worknprog.99]

usually the cup holder inserts are round and are kind of tight like a can holder. they have different sizes....

how often are the back cup holders even used?

[AleroDrime]

as little as possible given hteir current shit ass ness, but my family carries bottles of water everywhere, adn i mean everywhere

[worknprog.99]

lol. well at least the bottles have lids;)

[AleroDrime]

but theyll take somting without a lid, and sit it back there in the cupholder and sometimes pple ride back there with drinks

[C_EICK]

i dont allow any drinks in the back of my car without lids.

[Nate's Alero]

i dont allow any drinks in the back of my car without lids.

i dont allow drinks or food period......

[AleroDrime]

off subject, i think with enough attention to detail i can make this look oem, im asking like wich set up is best. Which is the most Possible. And any issues, such as speaker magnets being too close adn how to correct?

[MattismodderX]

the backseats of the alero aren't very spacious. and im assuming you have a 4 door because that wouldnt work very well in the 2door at all. it would have to be as thick is the stock console.. which wouldnt be enough width to put 2 6x9s on it. like everyone else said just upgrade your speakers and get an amp for em. dont waste ur time on somthing dumb like this

[AleroDrime]

i was thinkign start thing box from teh edges of the center seat in the back and round it in near the front to the center constole, i have all teh tools and gear for this

[AleroDrime]

doing that with the side speak design would provide a foot or so of width, then if i separated teh interior with wood, i hting the mags would be fine, is this right

[MattismodderX]

you realize your doing all this work for a taller cupholder... speakers will be behind you and down. not gonna hear em to well from where you're sitting, just listen to the other people who know what theyre talking about and dont waste your time

[AleroDrime]

i had thought of small subs there, but dont 6 inch sound like crap, and everything, i doing the speaker placement more for visual appeal then anything

[MattismodderX]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e265/MoparMadness/DSC02086.jpg

THAT looks pretty good. you dont need speakers on it... thats just useless. plus unless ur bdyman i doubt its gonna look anywhere near as good. thats just my opinion after the 5 hour energy shifter

[AleroDrime]

thats similar to what i want, just the front part though, if i extended it on to the seat, it would affect the rear seats folding down

and it don't take a genius to round corners and sand wood (that's a slam to bdyman, I think hes a genius with the stuff i've seen on here)

Ps. There seems to be a handful of brilliant minds on here, I wish I was one, but theres a bunch of ^^^^ who talk down ideas and don't seem to have done anything

[MattismodderX]

then whats the point? instead of making it easy for the people in the back to get from side to side, your just adding an extended cupholder with speakers on it. my cars a 2 door so whenever im in the driver seat, i refuse to let anyone in on my side (unless shes a good looking female). everyone uses the passenger door/seat to get in the back. its my car- im not moving rofl.

[AleroDrime]

Mines A sedan Making This Idea Way More Feasible

[worknprog.99]

wood??? why not fiberglass or mold some plastic at least?
with wood you would have to sand and sand and sand and laqre(idk how to spell it) on top of your paint to act as clear coat just to get it too look "oem" or as it should even be there.

if your going to go with the speaker idea still look up the 09 gtr and try a middle speaker mount like that or something like in the 370z...

but otherwise i dont see the point....

[AleroDrime]

i could easily take a block of wood, bore out to hole for drinks and fix it down, but whats the point and aesthetic value of that


because i haven't learned to fiberglass yet, so i'm using the skills i do have to produce something, i might try fiber glassing after i meet someone experienced enough to teach me how


for oem i was thinking a lot of sanding, couple coats of cheap paint, some couats of textured paint, then go light with an oem color match to keep the texture

[MattismodderX]

still, do u really want to spend 50+ on a pair of speakers for a console like that? thats over 2 tanks of gas. not to mention price of wood/w.e u would use to cover it. im not trying to be a douche or anything, i just think its a mod that doesnt need to be done at all- pointless. kind of like adding video monitors on the backs of the headrests.... unless u have kids why even bother?

[worknprog.99]

i could easily take a block of wood, bore out to hole for drinks and fix it down, but whats the point and aesthetic value of that


because i haven't learned to fiberglass yet, so i'm using the skills i do have to produce something, i might try fiber glassing after i meet someone experienced enough to teach me how

true with wood it will be easier to do if you really want to do this .. but i dont think the end result will look "natural" to the car like fiberglass or something would. jmo

[AleroDrime]

i apprecaite that and if you'd come down here and show me how id do it lol

as for the money and speakers, why replace anything or mod anything if that's your veiw.

Modding is all in the point of Improving and being different

[MattismodderX]

but theres a difference between a useful mod and a useless mod. ie: entire exhaust system vs rice muffler

[AleroDrime]

thats why i'm keeping the rear seat in a sedan, i had i coupe id yank it out and turn the hole thing it a sub box

[MattismodderX]

do what u do, as long as u like it, its all that matters really

[AleroDrime]

so as for the magnet placement with the speakers any answers to that?

[jeenysrider07]

i could easily take a block of wood, bore out to hole for drinks and fix it down, but whats the point and aesthetic value of that


because i haven't learned to fiberglass yet, so i'm using the skills i do have to produce something, i might try fiber glassing after i meet someone experienced enough to teach me how


for oem i was thinking a lot of sanding, couple coats of cheap paint, some couats of textured paint, then go light with an oem color match to keep the texture





If u do this i think you should vinyl it the color of ur center consol, otherwise I think it will look outta place. I thought of something similiar to this but no speakers, just A dvd screen and a places to hold about 5 dvds, I also have a 4 door

[AleroDrime]

i was gonna try to find some dupilicolor oem paint or somthing, vynls a great idea, better feel easy texture, less sanding your genius

[shez]

20 dollars says he doesn't even go through with this retarded idea.

[AleroDrime]

itll be a while but i gathered scrap wood yesterday, plie wood and 2 4x4's, plie wood for sides and 4x4s to creat round corners to meet up too the console:p

[worknprog.99]

as much as this sounds quite out there i am quite curious to see the finished product

[Ryan from Ohio]

Fiberglass or dont bother.

What are you going to do with wood? sharp corners? Boxy/ugly?

4 real

[billytheman1188]

how do you plan on holding this thing down? are you just gonna throw it in there and not secure it down?

Its definitely a different idea, but its just going to look WAY out of place.

[Ghadsphi]

but theres a difference between a useful mod and a useless mod. ie: entire exhaust system vs rice muffler
Depends on if you need chopsticks to shimmy something I guess...

[cavaliers60]

I kinda like the idea.... Maybe instead of 6x9's, maybe a small 6" sub or something on the side with the amp on the other side... cup holders on top.....

[Caboose73]

20 dollars says he doesn't even go through with this retarded idea.

make it 40 lol

[econewb22]

itll be a while but i gathered scrap wood yesterday, plie wood and 2 4x4's, plie wood for sides and 4x4s to creat round corners to meet up too the console:p
:haha: :haha:
horrible choice of wood...i agree with ryan that if ur gonna do it do it in FG
but if u absolutely have to do it in wood go spend the extra and get some MDF...
u can probably find somewhere near where u live that will fiberglass u somethin for a couple hundred...but if ur gonna do somethin do it right the first time...not some half ass ugly thing between ur seats

[Alero_1986]

Nice. You'll have a sweet plywood Z24 Alero before you know it!

keep us posted!

[jeenysrider07]

Its true I am a jeenyus.lol sorry its a great day. But go fiberglass ftw, just do a small fiberglass replica of what u want, so u get the feel for it, its not so bad(u have to be patien*) but if u cover in vinyl it wont have to be sanded so much either.

And ....fuk u guys are giving him a hard ass time. DAMN
(TO EACH THERE OWN)

it doesnt sound like a bad idea but take ur time and do it right. I only wish i could take my own advise




i was gonna try to find some dupilicolor oem paint or somthing, vynls a great idea, better feel easy texture, less sanding your genius

[jeenysrider07]

if u do this in fiberglass, u should fiber glass some speaker rings in it so ur speaker screws have something to hold ur speakers to>

[Ryan from Ohio]

4x4 wood? Like the big posts?

:lol:

I hate to sound negative, but seriously man? Do you honestly think that a chunk of 4x4 and some ply wood is going to look good and work inside your car?

Think about it a bit...

Maybe you can make something out of it. It still is going to look like crap.

[worknprog.99]

ouch getting kinda harsh lol
you never know maybe it will turn out good. . . . . .

[dhurst765]

i think the idea is stupid even for a 4dr

[Ryan from Ohio]

ouch getting kinda harsh lol
you never know maybe it will turn out good. . . . . .

Dude...

Only way it can look good is covered in carpet or fiberglass. Its wood and ply wood...

And DONT USE THAT STUPID PLASTIC PAINT ON YOUR INTERIOR. That stuff is absolute CRAP.

[worknprog.99]

Dude...

Only way it can look good is covered in carpet or fiberglass. Its wood and ply wood...

And DONT USE THAT STUPID PLASTIC PAINT ON YOUR INTERIOR. That stuff is absolute CRAP.

lol im just trying to be less negative

[Valley olds]

If you do make it out of wood, you would HAVE TO upholster it (and maybe the center console too). Upholstering them, will make the center consoles look more like one piece rather than the stock console and a seperate box in the back. As for speakers, I wouldnt go for treble, because the location may hurt your sound stage. Go for small sub or subs if they fit. Maybe an 8 incher. I have heard some nice sounding 8s. Only prob is you cant expect too much power from them. Disconnect the rear 6x9s. Doing this should give you a decent sound stage as opposed to putting subs in the middle and treble speakers in the back. And I guess that's all the advice I can give. Good luck on your project.

[AleroDrime]

after i shape the 4x4s to look like round sides with rounded tops similar to how the console ends naturally i think you all will me suprized, give me time, i work 6 days aweek plus school, and any real money is being save for tires, and then a brake job, so im gonna toy with this project for a while, will the magnets be ok?

[worknprog.99]

im telling you the magnets will be fine just use a dividing wall in the center... with a slight stager

[Ryan from Ohio]

Depends.

If the magnents have a hole in the back of them, then no. They need clearance. Thats the pole piece.

[worknprog.99]

Depends.

If the magnents have a hole in the back of them, then no. They need clearance. Thats the pole piece.

even with something separating them?
with a lower depth size speaker?

i think if he is going to do this he should out a 10 in it lol

[jayson_waltz]

^agreed that i'd use this as a sub box. extra speakers without a deck capable of more channels is a bad idea imo

[worknprog.99]

^agreed that i'd use this as a sub box. extra speakers without a deck capable of more channels is a bad idea imo

not only that it would hit alot harder feeling since it will be in the dead center of the car, and not to mention a great way to make people in the backseat shut up lol

[worknprog.99]

here we go lol here is your design you should go with :cool:

sorry the print is small lol
its an amp
a 10
and cup holders

[jayson_waltz]

^even better, instead of the amp under a secret door, get a cool looking one and put it under plexi. the only other thing bout that design wud be to make sure to use a full speaker grill. it wud look kinda cool tho done like that.

[worknprog.99]

yeah i think that would be the only way to go...
and yes under plexi with some leds would be pretty cool.
i think a carpeted match to the interior this idea may not be as dumb as originaly thought it just needs major changes lol

[jayson_waltz]

yea it might not be too bad. but i'de get some vinyl the same color as the dash and center console and wrap it in that. it would be a more stock look.

[worknprog.99]

well lets just hope aleroracing goes with something more functional like this then lol...

[jayson_waltz]

yessir. i actually wanna see what it looks like, just to be curious.

[worknprog.99]

as do i

[AleroDrime]

if you go back i posted a design very similar to that, asked for sugesions, i will be wrapping it in oem vynil mess

[worknprog.99]

as long as the speaker is a good sub and use the plexi idea that may very well work better than we all expected

[AleroDrime]

im a bastard so id probably stick with wood, portings not prob, can any give me a sugestions of dimentions to support proper air displacement for a sub

[worknprog.99]

well since you have limited space i would use a ten and they are much more leniant in there space needed

[AleroDrime]

like i said this idea is a variotion of one i had for a el camino center, we were gonna built it in like a half hexagon shape, subs in the top with plexiglass a half inch above them for protection and sound recoil, cool idea me and my friend had going, i never got the el camino though

[jayson_waltz]

use a 10" shallow mount from any decent manufacturer. then when you decide on one, you should be able to find a spec sheet that tells you the min and max air space for ported and unported boxes. btw i say shallow mount even tho a regular one would fit only cause they will need less air space, and you don't have much avaliable.

[AleroDrime]

another amp is really gonna make the sub idea more costly, but i guess id woulda need one for extra speaks but still speakes = smaller amp in most cases

backseaters are already getting beat to death from the 10's in the trunk, y not down them out

[worknprog.99]

another amp is really gonna make the sub idea more costly, but i guess id woulda need one for extra speaks but still speakes = smaller amp in most cases

backseaters are already getting beat to death from the 10's in the trunk, y not down them out

ok well simply take the amp from the back and put it under the plexi in the front have one one of the 10s you already have and use it in the cup holder idea and keep the other one in the truck facing the interior of the car like i have my 12 . it sounds so much better than having it face out i think.

just my idea now you can use the subs and amp you already have thus allowing you to spend no more money on an amp ;)

[AleroDrime]

look at the box on my cardomain, i really dont wanna separate them

[worknprog.99]

i can see why not

[AleroDrime]

like it?

[worknprog.99]

yes i do... is your amp powerful enough to run more than two tens? add a third to the cup holder thing

[AleroDrime]

nope sadly off brands r poor on rms, that one does about 700 total tops, perfect for my subs though

could one fo those vr3s handle a 10

[worknprog.99]

not sure ryan would be the one to talk to for that

[meadus101]

Nice Box.

This is a Call to ryan for sound suggestions!:p

[AleroDrime]

lol he was dissapointed in my brand selection, but my plan is use this settup till it wears out and breaks and by then i should have some money to get a higher quality set up

[billytheman1188]

i had that same box, and i broke it because my subs were so powerful..... cracked in a few places. but i cant complain, cause the box came with my 2 12in infinitys for $250....

[AleroDrime]

its breaking for me too, all four corners have cracked, but oh well, wonder if i could find another glass for it