OSV Bodykit Prebuy*UPDATE NOV.26.2003********

[Silentalero]

Ok guys I didnt want to release any info on this but its come down to it where I have to show AAS the intrest that is here for the osv. Currently they have 1 kit which is their combat kit but i know the osv would outsell any bodykit by far.

I've been talking to them about it for asome time now ever since i pulled the project from mike. If

Also if they are givin enough intrest im sure they can make a rendering or sketch of the bodykit to show as I will be working with them on the design since ive already figured out most of the kit as is. I would recommend to expect a prebuy for the kit to help fund it at $1000 and it would be sent to andy's auto sport if things get finalized by eric for the go ahead.

If you have any questions either call me

Marc - 773-519-5181

Please check my newest update post!!!

[Silentalero]

Ok I can kinda start to do this but I am going to write down the names of people who are SERIOUS!!! about buying this, meaning if you say yes, i will hold you responsible to have that money. Along with that please give me a date you would be able to so I know when to expect it.

If your wondering about my name it doesnt need to be on this list.

so far here are the names

1) Voodoo (Now)
2) ???? ? (Wife would kill him if she saw this but I know)
3) Grouch (Spring 04)
4) Bdyman (After christmas 03)
5) 99blackalero (Spring 04)
6) ??????? (Spring 04) Another wife who would kill him

[99blackalero]

so the OSV kit wil be $1000.00, not $1,500 then get $500 back like the last one...if it is only a $1000 sign me up for Spring '04, otherwise id rather just get the combat kit

[havik]

I'm going to be saving up money after this X-mas, but I'd need to know exact costs when they become available. Shipping, painting, installing, etc...

So, I'd like to say mid to late summer for me. Once I can estimate the exact costs I'll confirm my interest.

[Silentalero]

Originally posted by 99blackalero@Nov 21 2003, 05:31 PM
so the OSV kit wil be $1000.00, not $1,500 then get $500 back like the last one...if it is only a $1000 sign me up for Spring '04, otherwise id rather just get the combat kit
Exactly, this is a whole new pricing plan. I was going to be producing the kits but after alot of thought its just to much for me to handle without a company. So i would be pretty much handing it over to AAS to produce if they are intrested.


Yes $1000 is the estimate price im saying, it might be even less but will not be more. Shipping is probly $150-$200 on avg for something of that size

[Silentalero]

Originally posted by havik@Nov 21 2003, 05:36 PM
I'm going to be saving up money after this X-mas, but I'd need to know exact costs when they become available. Shipping, painting, installing, etc...

So, I'd like to say mid to late summer for me. Once I can estimate the exact costs I'll confirm my interest.
Ok this is a common question,

Price as said will be $1000 (maybe less but not more)

Shipping - $150-$200

Painting - They do not paint the for you, it would be a shop around your house that you would have to get a price from. No they cannot send it painted either.

Install - Usually either you can do it yourself or have the bodyshop that is painting your car install it, because even so with the rear bumper I plan on keeping the completely flat bumper so that you can cutout whichever exhaust you choose (or bodyshop cut it.)

[havik]

I haven't inquired locally about paint. So I don't know what's a good deal or not, I'll call around and see what people around here are charging but lets say I'm getting charge the equivalent of $500 US (just for painting), am I getting a good deal?? Getting ripped off?? Or is that the "norm"??

[Silentalero]

about $500 is normal for paint and install

[99blackalero]

sounds good to me`silent, if this can be done put me ont the list

[Alerosince99]

Silent is this just for the 2 door coupes?

Id be interested but I have a 4 door and with my current plan I dont think there will be free money for that untill fall 2004.

[Silentalero]

It will be a kit for all makes and all models.

I have a 4 door to

[Alerosince99]

I better stay off the list till I can firm up my resources. But I am definately interested!

[Grouch]

As Marc stated above, I'm a definate yes! I have the money now, but unfortunately I have to pay for an 800-mile move in the next two weeks. But I should have the funds available again around March/April.

[mfuller]

You just couldn't keep it under your hat, could you Marc.....

[Silentalero]

I was going to but seriously it seems almost that i cant get ahold of eric for the life of me and i figured i cant wait forever for the sketches to see the intrest on it. I have been trying to get ahold of eric for 2 weeks now and havent got a peep from him. He doesnt return my phone calls and whenever i call him he's always in a meeting. Ive also emailed him and got nothing in return, so this way im going to show the intrest in writing and if they choose not to take this project then I have a few other companies lined up as well.


Personally I would like to have AAS take this project because of the way they introduced themselves on here and have a nice background of bodykits made.

[02 Blck GLS]

I'm interested but honestly can't see myself coming up with money anytime soon. But once I clear some finacial hurdles, I'll be down to buy.

[crazykid]

oh man.. decisions.. the body kit andys just came out with for the alero.. or the osv kit..... (if it happens)

[King Asoka]

im really interested in to see what the OSV kit will look like, i wont be finacialy ready till at least fall next year, but i am still very interested!

[Skiboarder311]

i don't mean to crush any hopes, but c'mon seriously people, this company just came outta the blue and developed a kit for us. Now they just got finished with the molds and are starting to send them out, and u want them to make another one.

I dunno if thats gonna happen. We'd have to get a buncha peeps buyin the first kit they made, b4 they'd consider makin another.


I mean, i could be wrong, but thats my opinion on it

[SikMindz]

On one hand Ski is right but on the other, AAS has come out with 4-5 kits for the 92-99+ GA's in the last 6 months, 2 of which are only for the 92-95 IIRC. They also recently came out with 2 different kits for the GP in the last 2 months. So, it is possible for you guys.

[Voodosoup]

I can't re-commit until I get my money back from Mike.

But I'm possibly interested..............................

[Silentalero]

/\ yea thats what i figured from your part phil

ski....also remember they havent begun mass producing these kits, and the way im promoting it to them it will outsell any kit they can make to be honest

[evilinside09]

i do need something to blow birthday money/tax returns on so it's a possibility

[Silentalero]

Well im awaiting to get ahold of eric but still nothing.

Im going to start to contact other companies. But if Andy's does still come around they will have first shot at it.

[Oldsman]

will keep fingers crossed

[loudalero]

So I am taking that this kit is dead now that silent has dropped it and i cant say I blame him and here I was hoping to buy before spring but I would be interested in buying if andys picked it up.

[Silentalero]

By no means is it dea, and im not giving up. Im gonna bug every company I can think of to get this made.

If anybody has a company they recommend let me know.

[Silentalero]

NOVEMBER 26th, 2003 UPDATE


Ok guys I have talked to a company who is willing to make the mold and I do have very good news. Bodykits.org has decided to work out a deal with me and normally it is 15 preorders but I have talked them down to 10. And the preorder price is only $899 Per full kit. After the Prebuy it will go up to $999 after the prebought 10 are done.

The orders will be (5) 4 door kits
and (5) 2 door kits, mainly because oigionally they wanted to do 10/10 but i also worked with them to go 5/5 for now simply because the market the OSV has to offer.


Here is the info The bodykit itself WILL LOOK ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THE REAL OSV!!!! I was talking to them and they told me that only 10% of the bodykit has to be changed to avoid legal actions, so he informed me that he can change a few things and nobody will even notice them. The rear bumper will be flat as we have discussed beforehand and the front/sides will be available in 2 door and 4 door. So no renderings will even be nessasary because the bodykit will be a duplicate of the real osv for 90%, the other 10% you wont be able to even tell where he changed it.

Now Also I have a 4 door in CA willing to goto there, is there anybody with a 2 door willing to?

With the prebuy also if you want to put half the money down ($450) and then the other half (another $450) after the molds are made then you can also do it that way, so it can help some of those who dont have $900 right now.

I will be the sole person collecting the $$ and sending it to them when I have the 10 orders. As you know I have been a very trustworthy member and many people know me and my family personally so there shouldnt be an issue with that. (Plus they have my addy so they can come over n kick my ass)

Also if you do it in Money order I will NOT be cashing any of the money orders personally untill I have all 10 orders. So if this does fall through (which i dont see happening) then you can get your money promptly.

Please give me a call if you have any questions

Marc 773-519-5181

[nex]

I wish i had the money but we will see how it goes. Its gonna be hard to get 10 people to preorder 900$! we couldnt even get 10 people to preorder a hood that was 400$

[Naich]

marc, what general date are you aiming for?

[Silentalero]

asap

[99blackalero]

Originally posted by nex@Nov 26 2003, 11:00 PM
I wish i had the money but we will see how it goes. Its gonna be hard to get 10 people to preorder 900$! we couldnt even get 10 people to preorder a hood that was 400$
no poop, id have the money right now but im in the process of moving to toronto, so i have all that fun stuff to deal with...spring is more likely for me if this goes through

[Silentalero]

Well I am currently accepting the preorders now so when i get the 10 the bodykit gets made.


i know this is the major board, but please spread word sabout this to anybody with an alero

[havik]

I'm definately interested and will spread the word as well. :thumbsup:

[Metalifreak]

well I was suppposed to be the test car but since I had no idea this thred also included updates from marc on who was going to make the kit I didnt know I would have to come up with 450 bucks to be the test car so whoever else gets a chance at this good luck.

[Skiboarder311]

For information sake.

Is shipping included or is everyone gonna need to bust another buck fifty on shipping charges

[Voodosoup]

Shipping is not included, I went to the site yesterday.

They will ship by freight and suggested that you have it shipped to a business address for cost reasons (either where you work or your bodyshop) They said shipping is generally $70-$125. Paid on delivery.

Hell, it was going to be what, $1100 + shipping before. So no whining this time.
This seems to be a a great deal "if" we can get the pre-orders.

I think it's going to be hard to get 5 of each (2 door/4 door). Especially anytime soon, there are already a bunch of people on the fence for this project, but being holiday season means that money is even tighter for most people this time of year.

I suggest that anybody who is interested go and check out the website.

[Final-Reality]

Goddamn, that is a great deal, looks just like the OSV kit, for 2 & 4 doors, and you can do half-payments and it's only $900 total. Exellent deal... now how do I get $450USD? C'mon I'm selling my body who's interested?

[bdyman]

well regardless iam in the kit that andy`s is sellin right now i would buy....but the osv kit has to be the sweetest thing i have laid eyes on
marc ya now iam in but after x-mas tho

[Silentalero]

thats cool, and yea whenever you guys are ready just gimme a call and let me know your gonna be sending the money for it. Because like i said, its not gonna be like last time,this time im holding all the money untill its time to send them the payment.

[Oldsman]

i would think after christmas would be the best for the prebuy.

[Silentalero]

Well it will stay open untill I can get the orders.

[Oldsman]

you know my stand is.

[jabartram]

will the OSV kit be available for the 4 dr? it looks excellent? will join the prebuy if so, but have to wait till february!! then i'm investing aprox 10K in performance and looks!

[blueeyedevil]

what is the website to check out the osv kit? may be interested after march. have a 2000 4door

[jabartram]

here is a link if works properly!

linkie fixie, there are pics of the OSV's Alero's here ~grouch
http://www.aleroupgrades.com/concepts.htm

[Silentalero]

www.bodykits.org is the guys who will be making it and by febuary i doubt the prebuy will still be here, they should be made and rollin out by then so it would be $1000.

Yes they will come in 4 door (as i own a 4 door to).

[02 Blck GLS]

Hey Silent, will you also be looking into them producing the spoilier as well? I know some one on the board a while back was retrofitting a monte carlo one to look sorta like it but....anyway just a question.

[Oldsman]

good question. what about the spoiler, marc?

[Silentalero]

right now i want the bodykit, once we get that made we can get the spoiler made

[Voodosoup]

http://bodykits.org/v2/r_custom.asp

In case no one else took the time to check out the site. That's the link to their info for creating a custom bodykit for any car. It says they only need 10 orders (not 15) and they list the price at $675 for all 10 orders.

Hopefully Silent can explain the descrepancy in the pricing and info.

Also, what are these going to be made out of? Fiberglass or urethane?

[jabartram]

sorry about the bad link go to www.aleroupgrades.com and click on alero concepts! look for OSV body kit.

[Silentalero]

the price for that is a more simplier kit also, simnce the osv looks rather easy, in reality its rather hard to get it molded right and this is the price they gave me.

Im gonna talk to them monday again and ill bring these questions up.

[jabartram]

If they will allow us until february I'm in!

[havik]

http://www.alero.org/

Look at the gallery section for pics of the OSV Alero

[Silentalero]

Also remind you we are not having this built off another kit like some cars have done, they have to pretty much design this from stratch because there is no way to get ahold of the real osv.

[Voodosoup]

They're just idiots, I got email back from them. I guess "custom" to them means that you can pick from any of our existing kits.

I guess when I click a link that says create a custom bodykit, I would expect them to be creating a whole new bodykit. Not one that has already been created.

Whatever..........

And they still didn't answer my question about what the kits will be made out of.....

[Silentalero]

they told me fiberglass.

who did you email?

[blueeyedevil]

Thanks for the links, both that are posted have most of the same pics...looks great, hopefully if i can get the money together i will be able to order towards the end of the year....(got classes to pay for now <_< )

[vulgar]

silent,

what is your reaction to some of the comments people on grandamgt.com had to say about bodykits.org

[bdyman]

seems to me this is all goin down the tubes
the only kit i would ever put on my car is the osv and that`s it
when this is all smothed out then i will pre order

[Silentalero]

Well, the day i saw that i called them and they told me yes it was true but also it was the first car they ever did a few years ago and have cleaned up the process big time since then. Still skeptical and whoever does do it, im going to have bodykits.org sign a waier promising to return the car as left (except for the bodykit)

[vulgar]

^thats cool at least they offered an explanation. I dont blame you being skeptical especially with the past experience youve had, the waiver sounds like a really good idea.

[Silentalero]

Preorders are still open.

[I7D]

Is there a way you can make a bar graph out of text, or visually show how much cash you need? since this is a big topic, if the graph were put on the main page and kept updated and maybe had a list of names of those who have registered, it might entice people to do it.

[Silentalero]

well its basic.

$450 now

other $450 after the bodykit is made.

Its just sad nobody is willing to go for it now, yet before everybody wants and wants....Either way Im going to have OSV weither everybody here actually wants it or not.

[flippedout]

I'll definitely have money late January if the pre-buy is still around. I've been waiting a long time for this, and I'm glad as hell we're finally getting around to it. Thanks Silent....

[Silentalero]

No problem, Ive been working on this for a while now and unfortunatly nothing has worked out. Im hoping this prebuy can work but if not I am making my own mold and sorry guys but i refuse to hand it to some company to make money off my work.

[Oldsman]

hey marc,

i would say to keep this open til after tax time. hopefully we can get 10 people so the kit can get started.

[Silentalero]

Yea thats what i was going to do, if I cant get at least 10 people in by then, well then its going to be a limited edition kit and the price will go up for normal buyers if i even decide to sell it.

[jabartram]

within aprox 2 weeks I'll have the full cash for the OSV kit, is itall still a go? I'm buying rims, tires, springs, the body kit, CIA, DHP engine ecu, and exhaust all at the same time, what will the aprox E.T.A. be on the kit after order? you've probably answered this same question a few times, and I apologize for reasking.

[Silentalero]

its ok but after i recieve your money we just gotta wait for 9 other people to come through with money..

[I7D]

$450 now, hmmm I might be able to swing that. maybe in febuary.

how do we safely pay? do you have a paypal account?

[Oldsman]

hey marc, i do have the money. hopefully we can get this going.

[Silentalero]

Well remind you its another $450 after the kit is made, and safly id rather do money orders in my name because over paypal youd get raped in fee's

If your ready to send the cash let me know and i can get you my addy

Feel free to call me if u want to 773-519-5181

[99blackalero]

i'll have the money for this in the beginning of march, i was laid -off 2 mths ago and just started working again, so i gotta play catch-up on a few things

[per0xide]

is this still in effect? because i wanna get one next month.... i start back at dell again then.... :)

[quitlahok]

depending on the size of my tax return (should be big enough), i'll definitely get in on this. i'd say it's about an 80% chance that i'll have enough. need to buy new wheels and tires with that money too after all..

[Final-Reality]

Originally posted by quitlahok@Jan 25 2004, 02:11 PM
need to buy new wheels and tires with that money too after all..
Get the kit first, it's a limited time offer, wheels and tires will always be for sale... :P

[Silentalero]

well lets put it like this, if nobody gets this group buy together, and i end up doing this myself, im sorry but im only selling to few select people so NO osv will not alwasy be around becasue everybody pretty much let me down on this

[quitlahok]

good news, i've got the money from the tax return. final-reality brought up an excellent point, so i'll have the money as soon as the check gets here in ~10 days. i'll pm you when i get it.

[Silentalero]

Ok well this is good, I just got word the first money order is coming in

so if you come through theres 2 plus our test fit car in CA, so that makes 3

[Oldsman]

i'm 4

[VPLaVarnway]

is this still a go...do you still need a test fit here in ca.....

[Silentalero]

yes, but id need your money for the test fit car......

[quitlahok]

weeeeee, tax return is in, i suddenly feel rich.. i sent you a pm silent :D :D :D :D

[Silentalero]

ok with him this makes 2 prebuyers.


8 more and we get the kit made :)

[VPLaVarnway]

Silent, where do I need to send the money to? PM me or something, let me know, but I say if we can get enough to get 10 made to leave it at 10, especially since it's so unique and on a unique car.

[Silentalero]

i sent u a pm on it :)

[Silentalero]

no if we get the 10 then its going to be a standard produced kit. If there were only 10 people then the price would be much higher i guarantee you

[quitlahok]

so my preorder is sent in, now let's see 8 of you other slackers get on the ball :D

[pditty97]

Pictures of this? or install guides?

[Naich]

The kit hasn't actually been made yet, so there are no install guides or pics of the actual kit. They are replicating the actual OSV design pics, which have been posted earlier in the thread.

[Silentalero]

ok so we're at 2 prebuyers now!!!

8 more people :)

[99blackalero]

i definetly want this kit mark, just need another month to catch up on some bills and payments, but it doesnt seem like we'll have 10 anytime soon

[quitlahok]

i think i need to whore it out more.. 8 more prebuys is gonna take quite a while at this rate..

[Silentalero]

well 2 in last week is good

[Oldsman]

marc, you want money order or certified check right?

[Silentalero]

yea

[jackal2000]

you can count me in around the end of march, i should be back from iraq by then

[Silentalero]

well looks like the 3rd order is coming in whenever the check gets here.

[r_chasko]

Alright ladies, my check for the OSV kit should be commin' in this week. That makes three preorders. It's time to check your pants to see if you got a pair and send in your money too.

[keytonic]

Originally posted by Silentalero@Feb 21 2004, 04:56 AM
well looks like the 3rd order is coming in whenever the check gets here.
Should be there any day now :D

[Sportalero]

OK, folks, let's get those income tax returns in motion :thumbsup:

[Silentalero]

got 4 so far sitting in my hand. we need 10


5 - 4 door
5 - 2 door

[Crazy_Canuck]

I'd be down with an Alpha 1 OSV kit. :P :D

[quitlahok]

what are the numbers on the 2 and 4 doors specifically? i'm a 2 door myself..

[Skiboarder311]

Jus outta curiosity, Ru makin these kits, or did u find a company to do them for u???

[99blackalero]

he found a company

[Silentalero]

wut he said, yes i found a company to do them

[Skiboarder311]

cool cool

are they gonna keep makin them, or just this 10?

[Oldsman]

just the 10

[99blackalero]

Originally posted by Oldsman@Mar 5 2004, 11:50 PM
just the 10
i thought marc said they would be available for production after the initial 10 were made?

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by quitlahok@Mar 5 2004, 10:42 PM
what are the numbers on the 2 and 4 doors specifically? i'm a 2 door myself..
Coupe here.

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by 99blackalero@Mar 6 2004, 05:18 AM
i thought marc said they would be available for production after the initial 10 were made?
I think this is the right way to go. There are alot of enthusiasts on here, but not alot of people just jumping to send in their 450, ya know? If they were massed produced, the company would never make a real profit off of it <_< :rolleyes:

[99blackalero]

dont mean they'll be mass-produced, the or any mold would already be made future orders....could use some clarification on this

[Silentalero]

they will be mass produced but the price is gonna go up after the prebuy to whatever they want to charge

[r_chasko]

Come on fella's, lets see some orders roll in!! Or maybe, just for old time's sake, you could pretend that you're really interested. I need some kind of reassurance.

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by Silentalero@Mar 6 2004, 02:28 PM
they will be mass produced but the price is gonna go up after the prebuy to whatever they want to charge
That's kinda what i mean. They will be mass produced, but since they won't be pre-made, they'll charge you out the a-hole because if they are gonna use their time to make one kit, they're gonna get as much dough out of you as possible <_<

[-Alero-]

what does the kit even look like?

[Silentalero]

best option is to search yahoo...i dont have a pic on the computer here at work

[-Alero-]

well does it look better than the combat kit? cause if it looks better than that i'd like to buy it :D

[havik]

*sigh*, here's the front

[havik]

And the back

[Sportalero]

Hey, Silent, I thought this might be a good idea. Is there anyway to reinforce the part of the front bumper underneath to headlights to prevent "sandbag eyes"? Hate to spend the dough and still have that happen in a couple months.

[shortstar]

so its 450 to hold and 450 when the kit is maid? That insluydes all the parts to make an alero look like the osv right? I donmt have the $$$ now but could in month. I could get 450 sooner but would not be abled to get the rest for a month. I really really want to get this kit, im not pulling anyones leg here so please let me know when thew dead lines are and ill see if i can pull it together in time.

[Silentalero]

well its still open so when you get it get ahold of me

[shortstar]

thanks silent. I can have the money in under a month is nothing comes up unexpectedly. I'll contact you when i have the $$$.

[Aleromaster]

Well I just got a job selling cars so hopefully i'll be able to get on board soon

[Silentalero]

well if more people come through this can happen very fast because we already have 4 preorders now....shortstar and aleromaster that makes 6

then i can get the guys who said they would from the beginning and that sould complete it.

btw Im going to need to track who has a 4 door and 2 door, becasue we need 5 2 door and 5 4 door orders

[Aleromaster]

My biggest concern is that I saw earlyer in the thread that the kit will be fiberglass. Is this still teh case? I may not be able to get in on this if that is the case becasue of the way the roads are built around here, the black plastic rubs on the driveway every time I pull in and out no matter how slow I drive. Also how low in the back does the bumper go in the back? I have a Hidden Hitch trailer hitch to tow the bike around and as it stands right now it touches the little lip below the bumper. I have a desighn in mind for the tail pipes to come out the center with the hitch but if the bumper comes down to low It may look weird. It is hard to tell in the pics because I can't even tell if the car is lowerd. If my questions are idiotic just shoot me. Thanks
by the way, If the kit will work for me I could probibly have the money about 6 weeks after i start getting paid, sooner if I'm good at selling cars out of the gate (any one in the tampa bay area want to buy a chevy let me know :P )

[jerome]

I should have the money by the first of april, is it still 1/2 up front for deposit?

[Silentalero]

yes

[shortstar]

I too would like toknow what the kit is made of, fiber glass? plastic. I would prefer plastic but probably wont back away from fiberglass. also i should be abled to send in my money by the 2nd week of april. My car is a 4 door.

[justinusaf]

Spoke to marc today. We will be in. I cant get a check to you until May though. Would that be ok?


EDIT*** Sorry guys im out. Unfortunately we had some auto issues come up and i wont be able to contribute.. But hopefully at a later date if any more get made besides the 10.

[Silentalero]

yes itll be made of fiberglass.

urithane mold would cost us $35k..

[BigJon34]

I'm new to the board...but I can still tell that you guys been talking about this for a long time. Yes, I'm interested...because I want a kit nobody else has. Any pics of this thing bolted, painted and set up?

[havik]

check out page 7 for pics

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by BigJon34@Mar 27 2004, 12:26 AM
I'm new to the board...but I can still tell that you guys been talking about this for a long time. Yes, I'm interested...because I want a kit nobody else has. Any pics of this thing bolted, painted and set up?
Wouldn't happen to have 450 bux lyin around, would ya?

[r_chasko]

Hey fella's, I hate to sound like a douche bag, but I've got some serious bills. If i don't see any significant progress in preorders within the next six or seven weeks, I have to pull my money out. I don't want to screw over the people who are serious, but there's not much of a choice, i'm tired of everybody elses' BS. Please, some one send in an order and prove to me there's a pair of testicles out there.

[havik]

Well, I'm getting the run around by my bank and postal outlet at the moment. The only thing I could do is send a blank check but there's obviously some concerns if I did (if someone else got their hands on it).

[Sportalero]

^^I'm not understanding. Why would you send a blank check if you already know the amount? And sending a blank check means you know you have the money in your account, so why not just send a money order for it if you don't feel comfortable doing it by check?

[havik]

cause the only currency I can fill in is Canadian, so if I fill it in now the currency rate might change.

[Sportalero]

^^Sorry about that havik. Didn't pay attention to locale. I thought you were here in the States :rolleyes:

[jackal2000]

i mailed my money order to marc today. he should have it no later than 3 days from today.

[Sportalero]

thanx for keeping hope alive, Jackal. Bout to add ya to list. Past the halfway point, guys. Let's get that momentum back going. Thanx again for coming through, Jackal.

[jackal2000]

no prob, i want this kit made asap! lets get those other orders!

[Aleromaster]

ok now I started working. Just need to pay off the CC from when I was laid off and then anything that dosn't go to bills will go to going in on the kit. Also I'm only going to be eating ramen noddles and water till I have the money :lol:

[Silentalero]

Well Word from today is we have our 4th 2 door so we're almost there

[Sportalero]

^^Check the list again, Si, ol' buddy. We have all 5 coupes (http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=2635)

[havik]

Guess I'll have to wait to see if this company will produce the kits after the initial ten have been made then. Since only 5 coupes are needed and have been filled. Damn

[quitlahok]

woohoo, so now we just need four sedans.. do you count as one of the ten in the prebuy silent?

[Final-Reality]

If there is more demand for coupes than sedans, can they not just produce 10 in total in the quantity that is needed? Like if there were 8 coupes and 2 sedans pre-ordered why couldnt they just produce 8 coupes and 2 sedans?

[jackal2000]

Originally posted by quitlahok@Apr 7 2004, 04:23 AM
woohoo, so now we just need four sedans.. do you count as one of the ten in the prebuy silent?
i talked to marc today and he said he doesnt count as one of the sedans which is unfortunate.

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by Final-Reality@Apr 7 2004, 01:31 AM
If there is more demand for coupes than sedans, can they not just produce 10 in total in the quantity that is needed? Like if there were 8 coupes and 2 sedans pre-ordered why couldnt they just produce 8 coupes and 2 sedans?
I wondered that too. I mean the only differences would be the sideskirts because of their lengths, right?

[Silentalero]

Ok to clarify, no im not included as a sedan becasue since ive been heading this project up for the last year or 2 I'm the sponsored car to debut the kit.

And the reason for the 5/5 is because if they make this kit they are not going to engineer just 2 4 door kits, they will want an even number..Normally its suppose to be 10 each but i talked him into it.

Also we only have 4 (2 door) orders becasue oldsman I cannot count untill i have the money in my possesion.

[Sportalero]

^^Oh, from his previous post asking how you want to be paid, I thought he had already sent it. :rolleyes: I guess that means you're still in the running, Havik :lol: May the best (and quickest) man win :thumbsup:

[flippedout]

I just sent my deposit to Marc, so it looks like I get the last coupe kit....

[Silentalero]

Well guys 4 more 4 door orders and we get this made!

[Aleromaster]

Hey I have a 4 door and I'm trying.

[Sportalero]

Is the difference between the 99 and 2000-up sideskirt fitment gonna be an issue?

[Silentalero]

not sure on that yet....of anybody can measure the 4 door side wkirts lenght i can measure mine..I think the only diff was the flair

[Sportalero]

Well, other than Aleromaster, doesn't look like any interest from the 4 doors :unsure:

[Skiboarder311]

Dood, jsut have them design the sideskirts like andy's did.

have them design teh kit for an 00 and up 4 door. then it will fit every car 99 and up. Yah know what i'm sayin. the length on the 2 and 4 door are the same, and so is the fittment. I know cuz i have installed kits on everykinda alero there is, (99 2 and 4 door) (00 and up 2 and 4 door)

the only variable there can possibly be if they wanted to design the 2 door sideskirts different,. and to come up on teh quarter panel like on the GAGT, but that would look ghey!!!

But if they just design the kit around an 00 and up 4 door alero, it will work on everyalero!


Just some advice, take it as u will

[Oldsman]

i like that idea, ski. if it would work.

[quitlahok]

yeah, i was thinking the same thing the other day. that would make getting the prebuys a little easier too.

[Sportalero]

^^Sounds like a plan. Since everything on the coupe kit will fit the same on the sedan (for all year models), if the guy is really hellbent on getting five of each, Si could get ten any way he wants, and just TELL the guy he's got five each. He won't know the difference. :lol:

[Sportalero]

Just to notify you guys. I've decided to ditch my plans of getting a coupe and keeping my sedan. I'm still getting the kit, but now there's slot for another coupe to fill, and i'll knock the sedan list up a notch.

[Silentalero]

Kewl, ok so now we need

(3) 4 door orders

(1) 2 door orders

[BigJon34]

Those of you who are buying the OSV...what kind of kits do you have on now I'm curious because I'm sure you'll be selling your current kits. I'm partial to the kombat kit myself but if i can get a razzi for cheap i'll consider it.

[kou5oku]

Hwy a coupe version is available? If no one else has lined up I'd like to take that spot.

[Sportalero]

No one has claim on it, so take it, it's yours. But you do know how all this worx, right? Just so there won't be any confusion later.

[Final-Reality]

You can't just say "I'll take it!", you have to send in your first half of the payment, which is $450 USD, after he recieves the payment that coupe kit is yours.

I still wish there was a way to simply order 10 kits since it's just a slight modification to the side skirts for the 2 and 4 doors..

[Silentalero]

yeap exactly, its whoever gets me the cash first because untill then i cant add you


only differene with the 2 door and 4 door is the side skirts

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by Sportalero@May 6 2004, 01:46 AM
No one has claim on it, so take it, it's yours. But you do know how all this worx, right? Just so there won't be any confusion later.
Did you guys bother to read this part? Ya know, the part that explains how the process works, i.e. sending in the 450 now, 450 later. i wasn't telling him to say "It's mine" and that be the end of it :rolleyes:

[FormulaNERD]

i'd be interested, but 900 is too steep. for that price it better fit without having to shave a bunch of crap and should already be prepped for paint

[Sportalero]

i'd be interested, but 900 is too steep.

^^Not really. The *** is 1650 and Andy's is 899. The Razzi is either 699 or 799, but it's a ground effects kit, not a body kit. So in actuality, it's a good deal.

for that price it better fit without having to shave a bunch of crap and should already be prepped for paint

If you've seen the photos of it, the bodykit is just the original bumpers and sideskirts, only lengthen and i think flared some. The kit will slide right on like the stock components because that's all they are.

[FormulaNERD]

who is actually manufacturing the kit anyway?


and i still think 900 is steep, it's understandable when somebody first puts a kit out for a car, look when there were only 2 or 3 kits for civics or mitsu's, they were like 1300 bucks, now you can get pretty much any decent kit for 500 maybe 600

the *** is crap anyway, and for a while you could get the aas for 699, plus another hundred off if you were a member of gagt.

and sliding on like stock isnt always a good thing... my rear stock bumper cover is sooo flimsy, i threw up a rock and it almost fell off, it's held on by zipties now.

[Silentalero]

Ok well first thing those mitsu and civic kits your talking about sell over 10,000 kits so they can almost give the damn things away. The company has already made the major money from them.

The osv would be made by bodykits.org just as previously mentioned and if $900 is to expensive for you then honestly dont get in it because this is for the people who really want this kit. Hell $900 is cheap as hell for a custom kit, just ask anybody.

Me personally im not waiting for the orders since they are taking a long time and im molding my own once im done with the back seats and trunk in my car so those who did send in the preorders might have an early suprise :)

[FormulaNERD]

ok, i get what you're saying, and i agree, but maybe i'm missing something here, i'm pulling this directly off of the bodykits.org website.

Info on the custom kit:

each group buy has to be the same style kit, and the same years
all we need is 10 pre-orders of the same custom kit you choose
$675.00x10 people with the same car, and want the same design kit (that is a complete kit!)
add shippping is paid upon delivery FREIGHT COLLECT. (you dont pay for shipping upfront, you pay for shipping when your kit arrives)
we would need to ship to a business address (any business address will do , like your work, or a body shop)
after we get the pre-orders, we would need a sponsor car to prototype the kit on in CALIFORNIA, of course the sponsor car will get a FREE Kit, but first we would need the pre-orders and the group buy organized and pre-paid before hand.
(please do not email us for sponosrships for this)
After the group buy is complete, allow 5-7 weeks for us to make the kit, and we can ship the kits our after.
We do not make custom kits for one car. we only make custom kits for group buys of 10 orders minimum. email us for inquiries regarding group buys for a custom design bodykit)

[Final-Reality]

durr if it was going to the car in the first place...

Really sorry if it's being cancelled, I wish I had the money, but $450 USD is just too much for me right now, I'm poor :(

[Silentalero]

That price is also if you already have a mold made for it and need it duplicated, since this is a completely custom molded kit froma designing aspect they need the price higher for their design team..i still have the emails from them if anybody wants proof....besides i have enough validation on here that i wouldnt be ripping anybody off...if it is cheaper than great, maybe we can get this faster...ill email em tomarrow and ask if things have changed

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by Final-Reality@Jun 2 2004, 04:57 AM
durr if it was going to the car in the first place...

Really sorry if it's being cancelled, I wish I had the money, but $450 USD is just too much for me right now, I'm poor :(
Kinda right on that, Final. When i sent in my MO, i was already set to blow the other half for the kit. Two days after i send in the 450, I get laid off. I had to take 50 dollars out of each of my umemployment checks to raise the other "fo' fif'" (talk about dedication :thumbsup: ). Besides, 900 isn't gonna buy the turbo or wheels or engine swap i want. Might as well "add" to it.

[ptrudel]

damn i wish i wasn't broke...i'd so love to see an OSV kit come out...that's the only kit i'd ever consider...

[Sportalero]

^^Know what ya mean. The other kits give the Alero more of a sporty look. The OSV kit, IMO, would have been the only kit with "style".

[I7D]

Sport Alero, you keep referring to the kit being cancelled, has it really been?

I just moved to Napa, Ca from Grand Rapids, Michigan and a nice body kit would look great in this sunny weather :)

afiak its still 3 four doors needed and like 1 two door.

keep the kit list alive, I may be one of the 4 doors in a little while.

[Sportalero]

Trust me, man. No one wants to see this kit made more than i do. Hell, I was the first one to send my deposit in out of fear that Si wouldn't scrap the project earlier on. Not sure if you've read the last few pages, but I think Silent might be taking the bodykit solo and sending us back our deposits. He hasn't been back on to say anything, so I can't be definite, but he did lean toward the notion that some of us might be getting something in the mail :rolleyes:

[Silentalero]

umm solo, haha no
...and caneling, not a chance in hell...ive been pushing to have this kit made for almost 2 years and im not gonna stop untill it is

i will be contacting the people who have sendt me deposits because once my kit is made they might be getting theirs sooner than expected :thumbsup: especially since duplicating a mold isnt to hard to do ;) ;)

[Sportalero]

Originally posted by Silentalero@May 30 2004, 07:46 AM
those who did send in the preorders might have an early suprise :)
OH, the ''surprise" is the bodykit. I thought it was gonna be getting our money back. My bad :(

[quitlahok]

ok guys, i hate to do this, but due to losing my job i can no longer afford to be in on this prebuy. i'll have to step out for now and get my money back, but if/when i get a new job stabilized i'll definitely be trying to get back in on it if there's still a spot open. once again, sorry all, i just need the money. i sent you a pm silent.

[Silentalero]

as the list grows smaller.

well just to let everybody know when i do make the osv kit its NOT going to be mass produced so once the few names I have get theirs thats it.

I have HIN july 24th and i plan on having the kit done by then so...

btw for info, the list i have is anybody in the prebuy(weithre they pulled their money back or not) because at least they showed the support to do it in the first place and my personal list of people. Might be only about 10 or so kits made so get em while ya can..

i already have a shop to duplicate my mold when i get them....only thing that might take a lil longer is the 2 door alero since i have a 4 door and need a 2 door donor (ahem scot) :)

[Silentalero]

Originally posted by Sportalero+Jun 8 2004, 02:47 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sportalero @ Jun 8 2004, 02:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Silentalero@May 30 2004, 07:46 AM
those who did send in the preorders might have an early suprise :)
OH, the ''surprise" is the bodykit. I thought it was gonna be getting our money back. My bad :( [/b][/quote]
btw if anybody wants their money back at any time all they have to do is ask. I did not cash any money orders nor did i ever plan to unless i got every order.

[Silentalero]

also the cutoff for the list is going to be july 24th. So if you werent a prebuyer already or if your not on my persoanl list (they already know who they are) then your outta luck because I cannot see selling the kit to those who just want "a" bodykit. To much work has gone into this to have 50 aleros runnin around with this.

[ptrudel]

i shoulda thought poop through...shoulda put my money into this instead of rims :wah:

[Silentalero]

well u got untill july 24th...or as soon as the bodykit is finished, which after my backseats and trunk is my next project...and backseats should be done within 2 weeks and the trunk should only take about a week if that...

[ptrudel]

ya but i'd never be able to come up with money for this by then...i'm still payin off too much stuff(car, rims, credit cards etc...)

[BigJon34]

poop. If they'll just be duplicating your mod I might be able to afford this yet. I've always been interested in this since i first joined back in April, just didnt have the money. But I might be able to make the end of July deadline. You'll have to wait SMUD!

[Sportalero]

Since this not being done in means of a group buy, and we are getting our kits molded from a replica of yours, has the price changed any, or do you still need the other 450?

[Silentalero]

still gonna need the other $450 and even then thats really cheap because im not sure what the cost of duplicating the mold is going to be.

but after the other $450 ther is shipping also dont forget

[Aleromaster]

I'm still trying to get the first half ofthe money together. I'm just now starting to make money selling cars. I had to split my deals with my manager till I got the hang of it. I just hope I can get in By the dead line cause I really want this kit.

[Silentalero]

Well since basicly everybody is backing out now, the prebuy is only open untill July 24th when the kit will be done. Also for those who are doubting I will be making this myself and to be ready by Hot Import Nights Chicago so since its my priority now itll be done I guarantee that. Once I start molding it myself I will be cashing the prebuy money orders so there is no going back after i begin because this will help me pay for the materials that i need to make it and get the molds duplicated. I will post up when the Molding has begun which most likely will be around July 10th after the system 7 show in WI.


Here is the way pricing will be and this kit will be very limited.

Those who are in the prebuy and stay in the prebuy will remain with the price I agreed on in the beginning.

* Currently prebuy - $900 (2) $450 payments)

* My list of people and those who backed out of prebuy and still want to get it - $1000 (1 payment)

* Now here is the catch, since I am not mass marketing this kit these sales will be determined by me because I do not want everybody to have this kit and kill its origionality. This price is for those who want it because they've seen it and I will work with you on a person to person basis. This price is for everybody else who is not prebuy or on my list. - $1500.

Reason for the normal person price being so high is because nobody but a select few helped me try to get this kit made in the last 2 years ive been busting my ass trying to get it made and been screwed by alot of people. Those who want "I want to see it first" well you now can see it first but the price goes with it. You know what it looks like so thats the way it is.

Ive already sent back 4 preorders back within the last 2 weeks so the bodykit.org thing is mostly dead because of lack of intrest. To those who do get the kit I hope you enjoy it because its about a month away.

[Sportalero]

Just let us know when you need the other "fo fif", Si. And if possible, some info on shipping prices.

[Silentalero]

shipping im sure will be different on each area but ill find out because id have to get boxing material and weights

[Aleromaster]

Hey I'm still trying to get the cash saved up. This car selling buisiness is not making as much as I hoped it would. I hope the bonus money I'm getting from GM this month will cover the purchase of the kit.

[Silentalero]

well deadline is the 24th

[Youngblood77]

Silent, I truly wish I had the cash.... :(

[jackal2000]

marc, any updates?

[Silentalero]

waiting to finish my back seat mold and trunk, once thats done the bumpers go off and get built....design should start withing a week or 2 depedning on the back seats really

[jackal2000]

sounds good. with this kit, any news is good news :thumbsup:

[Silentalero]

yea to bad im almsot gonna have to front to cost for supply since everybody backed out :(

[Final-Reality]

EVERYBODY backed out? I thought you had like 6 or 7 pre-buys?

[Silentalero]

yea i did, i think im down to about 2 now..but that was because personal things came up and i can understand that. Sometimes u cant have $450 out in the open. But everybody who wanted it back got it back already.


but either way the kit is getting made and then there will not be anymore prebuy prices

[ptrudel]

jeez i wish i could win the lottery...i'd get in on this kit so fast...i want to see it get made(i know it will be) and i can't wait to see it on a car

[Silentalero]

well in a few weeks you will :)

[ptrudel]

Originally posted by Silentalero@Jul 13 2004, 12:14 PM
well in a few weeks you will :)
:o i'll win the lottery?! i better go buy sum tickets then!! :lol:


the kits gonna be ready that soon for pre-production?

[Silentalero]

its gonna be ready for sale soon, but read back a lil bit, im gonna be picky on who actually gets this kit. Its not gonna get mass produced

[ptrudel]

that's good tho...cuz u don't want millions of OSV's runnin around

[jackal2000]

marc if you need my other half of the money just lemme know. that way you wont have to front so much.

[Silentalero]

ok, yea i might actually have to for supplies mainly, my time i could care less about...that i got alotta time...plus with juggling 2 cars now it just made $$ tighter.

[Rooster]

Hey there Silent. (and all). I may have missed it, I tried looking through the 13 pages of this topic (lol), but....

What kind of work will this entail as far as installation? I mean, will your parts be replacement pieces for the factory ones, or do they cover the factory parts?

I see the deadline is soon, so I'll try and balance the book (always got those real life issues going on, hehe) and let ya know if I can gather the cash, assuming there are still spaces available. On that date will you be wanting the first $450 or the whole $900?

Since the day I saw that OSV I've wanted to 're-make' it, as best possible. As you know, many of the parts are not even comercially made, of course the body kit included. I've got a host of links of places that make this or that, but too much of the puzzle is/was missing.

I don't know you, but I do know (via photos) some of your incarnations of Aftermath. On a personal note, whether I can buy in now, or (hopefully) you/they/whoever continue to make the kit available, I want to give you a huge thanks for going through all the hard work and trouble of making the kit in the first place. After seeing your work, it did suprise me that you would spend so much time on something, that while is ultra-sleek, is quite tame / mundane to your creativity. I hope it'll continue to be available if I can't partake in it at this time (and the others, as well!) You commented that you don't want too many of them around. While I understand that, in my area (NE Ohio) there aren't ANY fx'ed kitted Alero's running around. I've seen only one in with my eyes, and that was in PA. My point is that it's not like everyone with an Alero will be buying one. But it would be nice if the people down the road who want to OSV look could still have the chance. I know, not my work, not my decision, just thought I'd throw that out there.

Rooster

[Silentalero]

Installation is going to be a complete bumper replacement. And thanks, Ive been working for 2 years to try and get this kit made and only received limited support which is whats made it hard. Since I cant ever get enough people to do a prebuy im forced to make ti myself and duplicate the mold.


Actually good update is the car comes back to my house tomarrow and sat is Hot import Nights so my back seats will be done and then the following sunday my bumpers are coming off and the mold is gonna start so expect some pics of the molds withing the next 2 weeks.

[flippedout]

Thanks a ton Silent for sticking with this. Let me know when you want the second half of my payment...

[sound_xtreme]

I don't know you, but I do know (via photos) some of your incarnations of Aftermath. On a personal note, whether I can buy in now, or (hopefully) you/they/whoever continue to make the kit available, I want to give you a huge thanks for going through all the hard work and trouble of making the kit in the first place. After seeing your work, it did suprise me that you would spend so much time on something, that while is ultra-sleek, is quite tame / mundane to your creativity. I hope it'll continue to be available if I can't partake in it at this time (and the others, as well!) You commented that you don't want too many of them around. While I understand that, in my area (NE Ohio) there aren't ANY fx'ed kitted Alero's running around. I've seen only one in with my eyes, and that was in PA. My point is that it's not like everyone with an Alero will be buying one. But it would be nice if the people down the road who want to OSV look could still have the chance. I know, not my work, not my decision, just thought I'd throw that out there.

omg, lol. dont tell me you think silent is robbie. silent could never do the work robbie did to aftermath.

[Aleromaster]

I am horibly upset that I unfortunatly will not be able to get in on this as I had hoped. I'm not making enough money now to cover my bills. I hope to be considered on the induvidualy basis further down the line when I finally get my self out of debt. If you won't be making them anymore at that point I guess I'll Build it my self :wah:

[jackal2000]

so its me and flippedout on the prebuy?



marc, you sent the bumpers this past sunday or are sending them this sunday coming up(1 august)?

[Silentalero]

sent?? pfft u mean take off....im molding this myself in my garage, i just gotta go get the wood/vettefiller/rage gold/resin n whatnot and alot of measuring and cutting to exact specs.

but today im sanding and filling the back seat mold because I want to finish that before I go working on another project....the sanding should be done today or tomarrow on the back seats so that by this weekend itll be prepped for paint...then the bumpers start.


bad thing is since the stock bumpers are plastic im gonna need alot of vette filler and that stuff aint cheap....$75 a gal :blink:

[bdyman]

our bumpers are a platice called tpo and i have seen some yrs switch to tpe very hard plastic to work with

[Silentalero]

Well just wanted to keep everybody updated. I am close to starting the mold but after finding out my grandpa has cancer its sorta stopping this for another week or so......I wanted to start on it this week but there is just way to much going on with family n all

[shortstar]

That sucks silent, My grandpa is in the hospital with cancer right now but Is doing pretty well finally. Hopefully he will get home this week. I hope yours recovers and will keep him in my thoughts and prayers.

[hardrock]

I would love to get my hands on an OSV kit. You can put me down for anytime as well.

[Silentalero]

well if ya send in a preorder then i can put ya on the list :)

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by Silentalero@Aug 13 2004, 01:05 PM
well if ya send in a preorder then i can put ya on the list :)
looks like only the people that are serious about this kit are going to get it... you should offer it in CF also.... i mean, once you have the mold, shouldnt be any problem right?

[hardrock]

what do I need to do to preorder one? Let me know, is there a form somewhere?

[theirishgonzo]

i want one this looks sexy and euroipean look with is what i am looking for. all i want is for it to bolt right up to stock bolts.

[Final-Reality]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Aug 13 2004, 12:47 PM
you should offer it in CF also.... i mean, once you have the mold, shouldnt be any problem right?
Do you have any idea what is involved in making carbon fibre pieces?

Lets just say you need an expensive roll of carbon fibre, a lot of spare man hours, oh and another little thing: a huge, pressurized oven big enough to fit your parts in.

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

Originally posted by Final-Reality+Aug 21 2004, 12:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Final-Reality @ Aug 21 2004, 12:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FormulaNERD@Aug 13 2004, 12:47 PM
you should offer it in CF also.... i mean, once you have the mold, shouldnt be any problem right?
Do you have any idea what is involved in making carbon fibre pieces?

Lets just say you need an expensive roll of carbon fibre, a lot of spare man hours, oh and another little thing: a huge, pressurized oven big enough to fit your parts in. [/b][/quote]
well, there's the dude that made the CF trunk lid for the Grand Am's...perhaps later on a deal could be made there. Just a wishful thinker, here.

[Silentalero]

its not a true carbon fibre piece though, its a stock piece rewrapped in c/f


and btw yes if you want to get in the prebuy all you have to do is mail the prebuy money order to me

[jackal2000]

marc, whats the word on the kit?

[Sportalero]

any progress on the kit? Haven't seen anything on it in awhile.

[Silentalero]

yes there is something very good in the works :)

[tenny]

any updates on this?

[jackal2000]

am i the lone prebuy still?

[Final-Reality]

We love you silent! :P

[flippedout]

Originally posted by jackal2000@Sep 24 2004, 08:58 PM
am i the lone prebuy still?
I'm still in....

[jackal2000]

^^^cool

[Oldsman]

just a FYI for you guys, if anything happens, there are back up plans.

end result is this kit will be made.

[jackal2000]

Originally posted by Oldsman@Sep 25 2004, 12:31 PM
just a FYI for you guys, if anything happens, there are back up plans.

end result is this kit will be made.
thats always nice to know

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by Final-Reality+Aug 21 2004, 04:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Final-Reality @ Aug 21 2004, 04:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FormulaNERD@Aug 13 2004, 12:47 PM
you should offer it in CF also.... i mean, once you have the mold, shouldnt be any problem right?
Do you have any idea what is involved in making carbon fibre pieces?

Lets just say you need an expensive roll of carbon fibre, a lot of spare man hours, oh and another little thing: a huge, pressurized oven big enough to fit your parts in. [/b][/quote]
well since you want to be a dick about it, i was talking about taking the mold to a shop that does CF and having them do it. the most expensive part of getting anything in CF is getting the mold done.

[nflsonic]

Yo Silent, what happened to the project?

[Silentalero]

still awating word from a soure, but actually thanx for reminding me