New to rims Help?

[bkathsalero]

So I figured I might as well get rims now.. so what I'm wondering is what are the widest rims and tires I can go with to keep stock steering "no rub" I want 18's but how wide and what tires size? I'm new to this rim thing so I have no idea what I'm talking about. But say I got a 245/40zr16. what kind of rim would I need? and would that fit? Please help

and I've decided I want to run toyo Proxes r888's

[AleroDrime]

Wow, Ok, your doing that backwards, find a tire after you find you rim, not all tires are made in all sizes.

if you have a 245.45.16 tire, you need a 16 inch rim.
If you want 18s thats ok, but i recommend a tire size that would keep the overall diameter and circumfrence the same, this will save gas and power + functionality.

Heres some helpful info
http://sites.google.com/site/aleromodupgrades/exterior/wheels#TOC-Tire-Size
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

theres more info somewhere in a sticky but i cant find it at the moment

the key things to get right here is your center bore on the rim and the bolt pattern

offset depends on how wide the rim is and can be fixed with spacers sometimes, first lets see the rims ur thinking of getting

the easiet way to go about this, if u have the bank, go to a local rim shop and hit it up

[worknprog.99]

^^^ sounds like plagarism too me lol.. although mostly correct.

the bolt pattern you are looking for is 5x114.3 or 5x115. im pretty sure the hub diameter on our cars is 3 inches...

[whiterider00]

its 70.something mm. dont know what that equals in inches.

[mfuller]

70.3mm centerbore.

[AleroDrime]

the closest things to plagiarism there is the links, i do know a little bit about rims and i did an entire precal project on tires, how diameter affects tire wear and what not.

cancel that , the first line is similar to one Ryan From Ohio said to me when i asked about a amp for speakers i didnt have yet lol

[A57]

The with of the rim max for the alero in the front is 18x8 and the rear is up to 22 x 8 rims as of now, depend on what your looking for 18 x 8's are nice ...

good luck on your search for rims..
Oh you might need some hub centric for the rims you get..

[PappaSmurf]

bkathsalero,
I know what you mean about not knowing about rims. Take my advice, SEARCH AROUND FOR INFO. Don't ONLY take these guys advice but also hit up some websites such as tirerack.com and the such, they also give good advice. I recently (within a month or so) put rims on my alero and they are beautiful compared to the stock 15' rims. I put 18" x 8" (height x width) and put on some 215 x 40 x 18 tires. You can only put 18" tires on an 18" wheel.
You will also NEED TO KNOW that the original offset of our cars is 42mm and the hub size (centerbore) is 70.3mm. DON'T make the same mistake I did and buy the first set of rims you like, to LATER ON find out that they don't fit. If you get rims with a different size centerbore than that of the alero (the 70.3mm afore mentioned), then you are gonna NEED hub-centric rings. I am running 18" enkie rims with a centerbore of 72.6mm. So I NEEDED a hubcentric ring to allow the 72.6mm hole (from the rim) to fit onto the 70.3mm hole (from the car). you can find some pretty good hubcentric rings on some websites. If you use the search button and type in "hub-centric rings" I am pretty sure you should come up with some of my previous posts as the problems I was having concerning my issues. Hope all goes well for ya.
-Smurf-

[MiLo]

bkathsalero,
I know what you mean about not knowing about rims. Take my advice, SEARCH AROUND FOR INFO. Don't ONLY take these guys advice but also hit up some websites such as tirerack.com and the such, they also give good advice. I recently (within a month or so) put rims on my alero and they are beautiful compared to the stock 15' rims. I put 18" x 8" (height x width) and put on some 215 x 40 x 18 tires. You can only put 18" tires on an 18" wheel.
You will also NEED TO KNOW that the original offset of our cars is 42mm and the hub size (centerbore) is 70.3mm. DON'T make the same mistake I did and buy the first set of rims you like, to LATER ON find out that they don't fit. If you get rims with a different size centerbore than that of the alero (the 70.3mm afore mentioned), then you are gonna NEED hub-centric rings. I am running 18" enkie rims with a centerbore of 72.6mm. So I NEEDED a hubcentric ring to allow the 72.6mm hole (from the rim) to fit onto the 70.3mm hole (from the car). you can find some pretty good hubcentric rings on some websites. If you use the search button and type in "hub-centric rings" I am pretty sure you should come up with some of my previous posts as the problems I was having concerning my issues. Hope all goes well for ya.
-Smurf-

my original tire size is 205 65 15. I want to upgrade to 17" or 18".. there is a website i went to and they said that 17x7.5 5x115 et:40 is good and 18x7.5 5x115 et:40 is good... (on your 18"s you got 18x8), does the .5" in make any difference or will i be ok?

[sleepyalero]

you updated a thread from 2009. my rims are 18x8 and the tire size is 225/40R18

[JLw7123]

I had 18x8 rims with 235/40/18 inch tires. I had the hankook vrus v 4 tires. I really liked them a lot.

[MiLo]

you updated a thread from 2009. my rims are 18x8 and the tire size is 225/40R18

dude, i never knew about this site until i bought my car 6months ago... so whether it was 2002 or last week i found this topic and decided to comment because im upgrading my car.. :glare:

[MiLo]

so while we are on the topic of your car sleepy, how many inches did you lower it?

[sleepyalero]

im saying papasmurf will most likely not reply to your statement to him.

on a side note, i have canuck springs, its 1.75-2inch drop.

[03glgold]

the biggest thing he was pointing out was that you were asking for a reply from a no longer active member :p

Not saying you have or haven't noticed it but in the top left corner of every post says the time and date it was posted so you can keep track of it.


EDIT: sleepy you just had to do the ninja post didn't you

[MiLo]

im saying papasmurf will most likely not reply to your statement to him.

on a side note, i have canuck springs, its 1.75-2inch drop.

ok cool, I understand that he is not active and he probably wont reply but i quoted him because that is the comment i was referring to... anyone that knows the answer can just give me some input...
and thanks sleepy, im just asking about being lowered because your car looks really nice and im tempted to do some similar mods... but i wont bite your swag... lol

[MiLo]

ohh btw, im new to modding cars, all the other cars i've had werent worthy enough to do anything to... so if i ask any questions just pretend like you're my big brother and load me up with everything you guys kno... i learn pretty quick but youtube is just retarded when it comes to finding what i need... time consuming.. thanx in advanced...

[Nas Escobar]

At least give the man a round of applause for not making new threads about topics already covered and actually using the search button! Not many people use the search button and instead go straight into "new thread".

But to answer your question milo, the .5 difference won't affect it. The largest width a wheel can have on an "N" body (meaning 99-05/06 Alero, Grand Am and Malibu) is 8. The largest recommended size for you to get is 18, but 20's will fit it just looks ridiculous and having low profile wheels equals a nasty bumpy ride.

You should be more concerned with offset than the .5 difference between a 7.5 and a 8.0 wheel anyways. Offset plays a big part on how the car handles with aftermarket wheels.

Also, if you want, you can always look for Mustang rims. SN95 and D2C Mustangs (the last 2 generations) have the same center bore and almost exact bolt pattern as most GM FWD cars do. The Mustang's center bore is 70.3 but the bolt pattern is 5x114.3 and the offset is around 40mm or so (can't recall). 114.3 will fit a 115 bolt pattern but it's a tight fit.

[sleepyalero]

oh i respect him searching, def wasnt trying to be rude in any way about it, just saying.

but thanks, and hey, your car... your style do what you want, but if you copy all my aspects, shame on you! ;) but even if you copy my suspension set up, who cares, tons of people have that setup. lol

[MiLo]

At least give the man a round of applause for not making new threads about topics already covered and actually using the search button! Not many people use the search button and instead go straight into "new thread".

But to answer your question milo, the .5 difference won't affect it. The largest width a wheel can have on an "N" body (meaning 99-05/06 Alero, Grand Am and Malibu) is 8. The largest recommended size for you to get is 18, but 20's will fit it just looks ridiculous and having low profile wheels equals a nasty bumpy ride.

You should be more concerned with offset than the .5 difference between a 7.5 and a 8.0 wheel anyways. Offset plays a big part on how the car handles with aftermarket wheels.

Also, if you want, you can always look for Mustang rims. SN95 and D2C Mustangs (the last 2 generations) have the same center bore and almost exact bolt pattern as most GM FWD cars do. The Mustang's center bore is 70.3 but the bolt pattern is 5x114.3 and the offset is around 40mm or so (can't recall). 114.3 will fit a 115 bolt pattern but it's a tight fit.

ok.. im takin notes... thanks for your knowledge, believe me it helps...
and yeah i've seen what you guys do to ppl that start another thread on the same topics that have been previously made... haha

[sleepyalero]

yes others give them sht, me im pretty peaceful on this site.

gagt is another story

[04PONTIACGA]

yes others give them sht, me im pretty peaceful on this site.

gagt is another story

You're peaceful everywhere, besides one time I seen you let loose on GAGT. I was surprised.

[sleepyalero]

You're peaceful everywhere, besides one time I seen you let loose on GAGT. I was surprised.

Hahaha I'm a nice guy really, and I forgot who I snapped at, wasn't it loco? Lmao!


Aww I missed my 5000th post, oh well 5k posts now. :)

[04PONTIACGA]

Yeah it was loco. lol I'm a nice guy myself, but sometimes It's fun getting a rise out of people. It's not my fault some people have no sense of humor. A lot of times I can just sit back though and :popcorn: , like that rice-tastic thread on GAGT, tons of lulz on that one. :lol:

[sleepyalero]

Yeah lmao there's a lot of crazy people on some sites haha :)

[kwhauck]

But to answer your question milo, the .5 difference won't affect it. The largest width a wheel can have on an "N" body (meaning 99-05/06 Alero, Grand Am and Malibu) is 8. The largest recommended size for you to get is 18, but 20's will fit it just looks ridiculous and having low profile wheels equals a nasty bumpy ride.

You should be more concerned with offset than the .5 difference between a 7.5 and a 8.0 wheel anyways. Offset plays a big part on how the car handles with aftermarket wheels.

Also, if you want, you can always look for Mustang rims. SN95 and D2C Mustangs (the last 2 generations) have the same center bore and almost exact bolt pattern as most GM FWD cars do. The Mustang's center bore is 70.3 but the bolt pattern is 5x114.3 and the offset is around 40mm or so (can't recall). 114.3 will fit a 115 bolt pattern but it's a tight fit.

False......You can go wider than an 8 in wide rim but you need to check your clearances and know the offsets. Also he should be concerned with both the width and the offset, a 7.5 rim with a +35 offset vs. a 8.0 rim with a +35 offset can change the looks of the car dramatically.

Also, Mustang rims you need to be careful of offset and width as they are highly variable.

my original tire size is 205 65 15. I want to upgrade to 17" or 18".. there is a website i went to and they said that 17x7.5 5x115 et:40 is good and 18x7.5 5x115 et:40 is good... (on your 18"s you got 18x8), does the .5" in make any difference or will i be ok?

I have 255/40/17s on the front and 235/45/17s on the rear of my car on 17x8 +32 offset, and they fit perfect in the front, I think rear flushing on FWD cars is retarded so the rears are square and therefore sunk in some.

[MiLo]

False......You can go wider than an 8 in wide rim but you need to check your clearances and know the offsets. Also he should be concerned with both the width and the offset, a 7.5 rim with a +35 offset vs. a 8.0 rim with a +35 offset can change the looks of the car dramatically.

Also, Mustang rims you need to be careful of offset and width as they are highly variable.



I have 255/40/17s on the front and 235/45/17s on the rear of my car on 17x8 +32 offset, and they fit perfect in the front, I think rear flushing on FWD cars is retarded so the rears are square and therefore sunk in some.

should i just go to a rim shop and tell them im looking for 18's? or should i just do more research as far as offset and tire size goes and get exactly what i want? idk if the shops are just looking for a quick buck and will just sell me some bullshit...
does it matter with the fronts and backs?? you said you got 255/40 (which is bigger/thinner) and 235/45 (which is smaller/thicker).....
to me that seems like 2 totally different size tires to go on a set of rims (17's).. are all 4 rims the same offset?
wouldn't i or shouldn't i just get the same size tires for all 4 like the stock rims/tires?...
what does having 2 different size tires do for me?
:wacko:

[Nas Escobar]

False......You can go wider than an 8 in wide rim but you need to check your clearances and know the offsets. Also he should be concerned with both the width and the offset, a 7.5 rim with a +35 offset vs. a 8.0 rim with a +35 offset can change the looks of the car dramatically.

Very understandable, but isn't the main goal of buying aftermarket rims is to stay as close to your overall tire diameter and tire measurements as possible? Meaning that if your car has a 42mm offset, a 70.3 offset and a 5x115 bolt pattern with an overall diameter of 24 then get a wheel that will retain those features? Because I was always told that offset mattered more than the width as too high of an offset will make the car eat up the suspension system, whereas width will simply make the tires rub or not have enough clearance.

Also, Mustang rims you need to be careful of offset and width as they are highly variable.

This I feel would happen more with aftermarket rims, but you're absolutely right on the variable of offset. This is also true with GM cars in themselves... one would think all 5x115 cars have the same offset, but they dont.

[kwhauck]

should i just go to a rim shop and tell them im looking for 18's? or should i just do more research as far as offset and tire size goes and get exactly what i want? idk if the shops are just looking for a quick buck and will just sell me some bullshit...
does it matter with the fronts and backs?? you said you got 255/40 (which is bigger/thinner) and 235/45 (which is smaller/thicker).....
to me that seems like 2 totally different size tires to go on a set of rims (17's).. are all 4 rims the same offset?
wouldn't i or shouldn't i just get the same size tires for all 4 like the stock rims/tires?...
what does having 2 different size tires do for me?
:wacko:

I would do more research. A local tire shop isn't going to know your vehicle as well as you do, and feel free to keep posting in here for questions. I and others are more than willing to help. The rims that a tire shop will sell you, yes they will fit, but they are not gonna fit perfect, and when spending hard earned money, that is not acceptable for me. If you read what I wrote below you will see that I went with a bigger (wider) tire in front for more traction. You won't need to do that. Actually, both tires although they seem different are actually really close in overall diameter. So you are set on 18s for sure then?

This calculator will help you decide on a tire size.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

This calculator will help with offsets.

http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Wheel-Offset-Calculator

Very understandable, but isn't the main goal of buying aftermarket rims is to stay as close to your overall tire diameter and tire measurements as possible? Meaning that if your car has a 42mm offset, a 70.3 offset and a 5x115 bolt pattern with an overall diameter of 24 then get a wheel that will retain those features? Because I was always told that offset mattered more than the width as too high of an offset will make the car eat up the suspension system, whereas width will simply make the tires rub or not have enough clearance.

Yes, it is true that you want the overall diameter to usually stay as close as possible to stock. However on the offset and width, you want to manipulate it to look really good on your vehicle. So in my case, I wanted as much tire as possible for traction, so I went with an 8 inch wide wheel. I also wanted the rims as close to flush with the front fenders as possible, so after research, I determined that was a +32 offset with 8in wide wheels. I mean really who wants to pay money for aftermarket rims and then have them sit way inside the fenders and look like crap! I sure don't! Also stock tire diameter is 24.9.

As I mentioned, offset and width are equally as important because they can both cause interference issues.