Turn Lights On/off Manually?

[Alero87]

Hey i was wondering if anyone knew how i could i set my lights so i can turn them on manually at night? if anyone knows let me know. thanks

[misslindseysue]

You can't. I mean, you can turn then on anytime. Can't turn them off when it's dark though.

[Lucky_13]

The only way to have your lights off at night is to... turn off your car, engage the parking brake, make sure lights are turned off, and then start your car. The lights will come on as soon as you release the brake though.

[alerosport.com]

I thought there was something you could install lota splicing and cuting wires and such though, i think there was a fourm or two on it at grandamgt.com

[misslindseysue]

You can disable the drl that way, but I don't think you can do that to the auto lights. A couple people have installed a led by the sensor so it thinks it's always light, and they stay off. Sounded like a huge PITA though.

[Sundayalero]

http://www.lightsout.org/disable.html#GMspec

[Grouch]

dunno if that above linked method works on the 03 or not, but most any other year doing so with throw a SVS warning light. Someone with an 03 try it and let us know. ;)

The only other way I know of is to get your hands on one of the DRL Kill kits that were made by a few guys on gagt.com a few years back. It killed the DRL's, killed the auto headlight feature and allowed you to use your fog lights independant of any other lights, ie fogs on only, fogs with hi beams, etc. I got one, but I ain't parting with it anytime soon. :P

[niral622]

The light sensor in the top of the dash is a light to resistance relationship (if you didnt know)...so if you take the sensor out, connect it to a multimeter and measure the resistance of the sensor in bright daylight, you can then replace the sensor with a resistor of equal value and fool the car into thinking its always daytime, and vice versa. note: this will only work for the auto-on feature...it wont stop the DRL's...there's another hack to disable the DRL's i'm pretty sure, not for the alero in particular, but search around for a hack in other GM cars, its probably the same concept :). I was reading about it for the blazer sometime ago and it was something to do with a relay under the hood....if you solder two pins together, it disables DRL's, I don't remember exactly now....hope it helps :)

[brim]

http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=4288

the way i posted takes care of drl's

as far as the automatic nighttime lights

I'm not sure if this works on aleros, however it does work on some GA's apparently

ALC bypass
at connector C2 find A3 the yellow/black wire, and B2 light green/black wire.. be careful because there are two light green/black wires on that connector.. the one you want is closest to the yellow/black wire.

cut these wires again leaving as much wire as possible attached to the BCM.. simply tie the two wires together and tape them up real good. (this is the same thing as removing ambient light sensor and adding a jumper wire)

The BCM will now think that it is daylight all the time and it will not energize the relay to turn on the headlights.

independant fogs instructions are available just PM me. Most people have been concerned about DRL and ALC bypasses..

[freeze12]

Okay: Here we go again for the thousanth time!.....I have been posting this since I got My Alero in "01" & everything still works fine.


I have an 01 alero & all I did to disable the DRLs was to unplug the Relay..pull off relay cover...put a piece of Matchbook paper between the relay contact's & reassemble Relay..plug back in & no more DRL's & no SVS light!!!

To disable My ALC all I did was pull the sensor out of it's holder..take a 5mm LED & a resistor (Radioshack#271-086 Resistor)..wire it to the Pos. side of LED & power source (cars Ign) & other side of LED to ground. Place Sensor & LED CLOSE in a homemade box or tube of sorts (so the sensor will catch all the light from the LED. So that when the Ign key is turned on the LED will light & fool the sensor into thinking it is daytime.

[brim]

Originally posted by freeze12@Jul 20 2004, 05:49 AM
Okay: Here we go again for the thousanth time!.....I have been posting this since I got My Alero in "01" & everything still works fine.


I have an 01 alero & all I did to disable the DRLs was to unplug the Relay..pull off relay cover...put a piece of Matchbook paper between the relay contact's & reassemble Relay..plug back in & no more DRL's & no SVS light!!!

To disable My ALC all I did was pull the sensor out of it's holder..take a 5mm LED & a resistor (Radioshack#271-086 Resistor)..wire it to the Pos. side of LED & power source (cars Ign) & other side of LED to ground. Place Sensor & LED CLOSE in a homemade box or tube of sorts (so the sensor will catch all the light from the LED. So that when the Ign key is turned on the LED will light & fool the sensor into thinking it is daytime.
that's some swift mcguyver poop

[Grant]

Where is the relay that you unplug located? I'm not sure if I'm reading two different things...one location is in the main fuse box under the hood...where is the other location (if there is one)?

What do you think about the procedure that cuts the pin?

Thanks!

[freeze12]

The Relay is under the Hood. Why cut the Relay Pin & destroy thr Relay when all You need is a piece of Paper between the Contacts & not destroy that Relay.

[Grant]

Well...I was thinking of a more permanent fix as opposed to paper that could wiggle free. But, I suppose if done right, the paper block would last indefinitely and would allow for return of DRL's if needed.
Thanks for the info...

[brim]

stick with the paper, it's effective and reversible, and it won't go anywhere until you pull the relay apart again

[Hobbes]

When the light sensor comes on and my auto lights come on, my service engine soon light also comes on, can I fix this? What I've been doing is turning my lights on before the auto feature works, but during daytime it's fine unless I go through a dark tunnel....

Do both the led light and the relay (matchbook paper) trick need to be combined?

[Youngblood77]

Ok, has anyone got recent experience with the DRL relay trick, 'cause I'm @ a loss as-to how to even get the damn relay OUT. Does it just pull out like a fuse? If-so, it's mighty-damned tight. :pissed:

[FormulaNERD]

yes... its REALLY tight yb. but just pull straight up.

[Youngblood77]

got it bro, thanks. :thumbsup: The mod works too. ( I think ) It's dark out, so I used a flashlight to disable th ALC, then started the car....no lights. I pulled the flashlight, and within say, 10 seconds, the lights came on. ( I'm assuming the light sensor in the dash sends the signal every 10 seconds or so ) Anyways, no SES light, so I'm good to go. B)

[HAZED]

ok im having a similar problem with the lights but my stay on all the time day night
sundown always on? is there a way to disable that or fix so its normal thanks

[Hobbes]

got it bro, thanks. The mod works too. ( I think ) It's dark out, so I used a flashlight to disable th ALC, then started the car....no lights. I pulled the flashlight, and within say, 10 seconds, the lights came on. ( I'm assuming the light sensor in the dash sends the signal every 10 seconds or so ) Anyways, no SES light, so I'm good to go.

I've done the DRL trick, but this ALC thing, sounds like what I'm missing.. a picture would help me indefinetely.. The light sensor is in the dash???

I'll try narrowing it down with a flash light.. but a little help would go a long ways...

[Sportalero]

^^If you stand just in front of your driver side door and look through the bottom of the windshield down into the defrost vent, you can see it down there.

[Hobbes]

Thanks,

I sent him a PM, and he gave me the same info there, guess I should've added that here huh.

I totally understand what you're going through. I haven't disabled my ACL's yet, and mine are buggin the poop outta me too. The light sensor you're trying to find isall the way on the driver's side of the dash, IN the defroster vent. It's straight forward from the steering wheel, and looks like a pen-light pointing straight up.

~~~~~ACL disable mod, no stock wire cutting~~~~~

The biggest pain in the ass about doing this mod is that you have to physically take the dash out of the car. Once the dash is out, you'll be able to work with the sensor. Just take a small white LED and hook it to any switched power source. ( So that the led lights up whenever the car is on ) Then find a small tube of some sort. ( the smallest plastic pipe you can find works good. ) and put the sensor in 1 end, and the LED in the other, so that ALL the light from the led is pointed @ the sensor. Tape up the ends so that no light gets out, and so the parts don't come out of the tube, put your dash back in, and you're good to go. Like I said, the biggest pain in the ass is taking the dash in and out of the car.


Hope this helps ya bro. thumb.gif

-Eric



And I said, Thanks a ton!! I figured it had to be somewhere visible, but that is the last place I would've checked-

Thanks again man!


Anytime brotha. cool.gif

B)

[anthony547]

You will have to splice wires and run relays under the hood opening lever.. that's what we did to mine. I will have my friend that did it write down the instructions.

I can now override my brake lights, parking lights, headlights, and backup/reverse lights at the flip of a switch.

It takes about a hour or so to do it after you find the wires.

"What one man can do. Another man can undo."

[shawndon]

does the paper in the relay work the ALC too?

[Youngblood77]

Originally posted by shawndon@Mar 16 2005, 03:33 PM
does the paper in the relay work the ALC too?
Nope.

[sound_xtreme]

would anyone be interested if i made the kits that used to be made? i have one and could recreate it if there was interest.

[bigd6983]

yea aslong as it worked there would be some people interested......

[sound_xtreme]

what kind of prices would people be expecting? i think the one i have got went for around $100 didnt it grouch?

[99BLKALERO]

if I still had my alero i would be in.....I was trying very hard to locate one and never could.

[Grouch]

Originally posted by sound_xtreme@Mar 23 2005, 11:45 PM
what kind of prices would people be expecting? i think the one i have got went for around $100 didnt it grouch?
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whew, don't recall exactely. But I think it was in the $85 range.

And it works. I've had mine in for as long ago when they made them without a single problem. It gives you independant control of your headlights, ie no more auto-lights unless you want them. Independant control of your fog lights, ie foglights whenever you want them regardless of what other lights are on or off. Kills the DRL's. etc.