what sub n amp

[shiny alero]

hey guys, just bought an 07 impala n i wanna do up the audio...trying to decide between JL audio W7 12 inch sub or an hifonics olympus 12. i want very deep rich bass and i want it tight. right now i have 2 kicker L5's powerd by a kicker sx1250.1 digital amp. and i want to upgrade from that

[Cashdollar2009]

hey guys, just bought an 07 impala n i wanna do up the audio...trying to decide between JL audio W7 12 inch sub or an hifonics olympus 12. i want very deep rich bass and i want it tight. right now i have 2 kicker L5's powerd by a kicker sx1250.1 digital amp. and i want to upgrade from that

Fi Q : https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraudio.com/sess/utn;jsessionid=154b69fafd93099/shopdata/0050_Speakers/product_overview.shopscript Third one down.
Sundown SAE-1200d : http://www.sundownaudio.com/index.php/products/amplifiers/sae-1200d-v2.html

Go JL if you want to spend a fortune.

[shiny alero]

i can get the JL subs for about 400 each, also looking at orion hcca i cant get them the same price

[cherrington17]

soundstream tarantula amp
jackhammer sup.

done.

:lol:

but seriously... american bass (ryanfromohio can get you the stuff) makes great subs and amps. great quality at a good price.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Whats the details on the car?

What alternator?

What size wiring in the big 3?

What size power wire you running?

How much money you got to spend?

You are getting into an area thats going to require a high output alternator, ample wiring and quite possibly a secondary battery in the back. Total cost on these items will set you back a minimum of $500 upwards $1,000 or more.

I would advise against the JL. The basic answer is because its a single 3 Ohm coil. So you want about 750 WRMS @ 3 ohms. That alone is NOT cheap and finding something rated like that is impossible... So you would want 1000 WRMS @ 4 ohms... To be comparable.

Heres some other options:
http://www.sundownaudio.com/index.php/products/subwoofers/nightshade-12.html

http://dcsoundlab.com/woofers.html
DC Lvl 4

http://www.audioque.com/aq/?page_id=24

https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraudio.com/sess/utn;jsessionid=154b69fd3de351d/shopdata/0050_Speakers/0020_BL/product_overview.shopscript

Fi BL 12

http://americanbassusa.com/front/showcontent.aspx?fileid=225
American bass HD12, I sell these :)

http://ascendantaudio.com/havoc.php


Im sure Im missing some other contenders, but I covered most of them!

[Ryan from Ohio]

i can get the JL subs for about 400 each, also looking at orion hcca i cant get them the same price

DO NOT GET THE HCCA

Also be VERY aware that if you buy a single 12 of almsot any of these subs, you will NOT have a trunk or much of one.

You can kiss about 6 cubes of space goodbye- outside dimensions.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Oh and lastly...

if you want deep rich tight bass you want a sealed box. Many of these subs are aimed at ported ONLY- hence my previous remark.

You will not get the transient response out of a ported box you get out of sealed. Also when you go sealed you need a sub with more xmax...

Keep this in mind before your upgrade is a downgrade.

[Cashdollar2009]

Whats the details on the car?

What alternator?

What size wiring in the big 3?

What size power wire you running?

How much money you got to spend?


You will not get the transient response out of a ported box you get out of sealed. Also when you go sealed you need a sub with more xmax...

Keep this in mind before your upgrade is a downgrade.

Good call, it's hard to make serious suggestions without specs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt_FrbS9rZk

Or you could go with a cute little DD9515. ;)
http://www.ddaudio.com//caraudio/09/woofer09_9500g.htm

We need specs and pricing!

[Xtrm]

I would go 2 12" Memphis subs with at least an 1000w Memphis amp. Just going by experience and what I have owned before. I would hit 159dbs at least at any comp.

[Cashdollar2009]

I would go 2 12" Memphis subs with at least an 1000w Memphis amp. Just going by experience and what I have owned before. I would hit 159dbs at least at any comp.

:nuts: :lol:

[Ryan from Ohio]

I would go 2 12" Memphis subs with at least an 1000w Memphis amp. Just going by experience and what I have owned before. I would hit 159dbs at least at any comp.

Aint no way in hell.

And thats statement comes from 14 years real world experience.

[shiny alero]

alot of good info you guys! i clearly didnt no half of what i thought i did lol...after alot of thought i think im going to start with a deck for now. can you recomend a good 1? ill spend about 450 maybe 500$

[Ryan from Ohio]

What features you want?

Din or dbl din?

[Cashdollar2009]

Head Unit i wish i owned... http://signature.crutchfield.com/S-3ndjyWclNCt/s_113KDCX993/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X993.html
Owned 3 kennwood units (KDC-MP238, kdc-mp242, kdc-mp538u), happy with ALL of them. Also installed for two friends, again, not a single problem. Auxiliary input as well as direct usb control for iPod/etc, so you can control your iPod through the head unit itself.
$270.00 crutchfield/ $215.00 ebay.
Just a suggestion... :)

[MattismodderX]

i have a pioneer AVH5700DVD and as far as features/fitting in the alero- it does a great job (after you gut the inside of the dash). its got its own subwoofer channel which is pretty handy i might say. got mine for $200 off craigslist. have an Fi BL 12" in a 3.9 ported box. hits 137 @ 29hz on the dash, but i think if i tried to increase the spl i could get it closer to 140. a lot depends on the box

[Ryan from Ohio]

I had lots of issues with Kenwood gear, but that was in early 2000's

Its been about 8 years since I messed with their stuff. Maybe they have turned it around, I hope.

The remotes were notorious for being weak- more than one item being turned on warranted adding a relay...

[JLw7123]

http://reaudio.com/home.html
http://jlaudio.com/
http://kicker.com/Solo-Baric_L7
http://kicker.com/solo_x
ok how much money are you willing to spend on a system.