Air suspension progress

[00redse]

Hi All, I just wanted to post up a progress thread of getting the air suspension put into the blue Alero I bought from Richie. It had air suspension at one time, but it was removed and sold/parted before I bought the car. Honestly I'm pretty glad that it WAS removed, because I never would have bought the car when it had the 8-10k price range he wanted with the air ride. That, and I'd much rather do this myself so that I know how everything goes together and works.
I know I know, the car was bought, not built, lol but I'm gonna be doing projects on pretty much every aspect of this car, from this, to the motor/tuning, paint, stereo, etc. As any of you that know me, I tend to never leave things untouched. I don't regret buying this car one bit though.
Quite a few people asked me to post pics as I went along with things on the car, and the work that Richie put into the designing and planning of this car really speaks a lot. As I've been tearing into it, I keep finding cool little things that make me appreciate the car that much more. I'll try to post as many pics as I can, and I'll try to link all from photobucket so as not to suck up the bandwidth around here lol.

So, on to the start of the air suspension. I purchased used a set of easystreet air struts, 8 SMC 1/2" air valves, 2 viair 450 compressors, and a switchbox. These came from a member on gaownsersclub, JordanGT. Cool guy, and has been great to work with so far even when things went poorly. Poorly you say? lol, well let's just say that some of the stuff did not arrive in the best of shape. But all should still be fine, just taking things in stride. http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
If you've read this far, you're probably wanting some pics, so here we go.

This is where it starts.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/0730091923.jpg
I love opening this trunk lol

Start pulling stuff out.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress004.jpg
little dusty, but these subs sound amazing

Once the weatherstripping is removed, the fiberglass cover piece can be squeezed and massaged out. Underneath is the speakerbox. I like how the handles were attatched to make it easier to work with.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress001.jpg
The amp next to it was broken, but still left installed for looks, and another amp was behind the amprack powering the mids and highs. I took the amp in and got it fixed already, that's why it's sitting there
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress022.jpg
that's where the "now fixed" amp mounts. holes drilled through the mounting board to hide all the wires.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress023.jpg
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here's the spare tire well which will house all the valves for the air suspension. Also a pic left down there of some hottie car model with a note on the back. Richie you sly dog, lol I hope you got a piece of that one! hehe.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress024.jpg
and another showing where the battery sits in there too. Lotsa wires! between the amps, subs, and all the lights that light up the amps and trunk, it took me a few to figure out just what went where. Adding another 20 to 30 wires in there for all the valves and pressure switches and stuff is gonna be fun.

So now we go in through the backseats and see what we're working with.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress018.jpg
There's the other amp that was running the mids and highs. It will be removed shortly. Also you can see the "feet" for the air tank to sit on. This way it sits above the battery and creates space for all the terminals. And like I said, there's a lot of wiring back here.

So we move the amp aside and test fit the compressors.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress021.jpg
one sits there, and one on the opposite side. Like a glove. The use of space in this trunk amazes me. Fitting all that goes in here and still making it look good when it's finished from the trunk or through the seats.

And here we have the dash. It didn't have a CD player when I got it, He wanted to keep his, so I bought one from a buddy that owns a shop here, and I was pleasantly surprised that the color scheme on the screen matches EXACTLY with the color scheme of the interior. The blue and the silver match so well, you'd have thought it was made for the car.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress016.jpg
It's hard to get a good shot of it because of the glare. Here's another pic. You can see in this one the hole where the dakota digital quad air pressure gauge goes. I'm ordering one of those this weekend.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress013.jpg
Love it or hate it, that shift knob stays. I wan't a huge fan of it when I saw pics, but it looks so good in person that it definitely won't be going anywhere.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress017.jpg
The steering wheel is now this one instead of the billet one. I like it. I didn't fancy myself a billet steering wheel guy, but I'll bet it looked nice when he had it on there.

So here's the pile of uninstalled parts I'll be working with once the rest of the stuff comes in and gets squared away.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress006.jpg
now here you can see one of the front air struts is definitely not looking quite right. There's no coming back for that one. It's fubar'd. Jordan is being a stand up guy about it though, and said he's gonna refund some money towards replacing it.

The switchbox.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress007.jpg
Some damage to this as well. This looks like it just got busted in shipping, you can see a couple of the switches that don't line up right. They're broken, and the bottom side of the box is cracked up pretty good too. No biggie. Got another one of those coming too, and I might use the switch extenders off of this one.

The compressors and valves.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/aleroprogress008.jpg
One of the leader hoses is broken, but that's getting replaced. Need filters too. They're quieter than I originally expected. Stoked on that. We'll see how it actually sounds when there's 2 of em running in the car though.

So, not a whole lot of install yet, I'm gonna try to fab up a board to sit in the spare tire well to mount the valves to. I'll try to make the wiring and air line as organized as possible.

Haven't decided wether to use regualr air line or braided stainless line for the air... Obviously braided ss lines will be durable and nicer looking, but i'm wondering if the cost outways the benefits. Does anyone have any input on this?

On order is still the replacement air strut, switchbox, and an air tank, plus the dakota digital gauge, and pressure switch, and some assorted stuff for the wiring. Should get the stuff soon. Still waiting on the final quote for everything.

As of now the car sits about like this.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/1248920762082.jpg
Can't wait to have it sitting about like this though.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/AleroHiRes12.jpg

[JLw7123]

looks good

[heineck]

Quick question man what kind of wheel hub do u have on there with the momo

[StoopidAlero]

Good luck with everything brother. Ewww that front struts shaft is completely bent. I have extra parts here at my house. If you need any help or anything, hit me up.

[FrankTheTank]

good to see the car is in good hands. should look sweet once its back on the ground, and not having all the stickers will definitely make it look even better. should put a billet wheel in it agian though.

[00redse]

Quick question man what kind of wheel hub do u have on there with the momo

I believe it's just a momo hub. Richie put this one on when he sold the billet one. I think I have the box that the hub came in though if you're looking for a part number though.

Good luck with everything brother. Ewww that front struts shaft is completely bent. I have extra parts here at my house. If you need any help or anything, hit me up.

Cool beans man. What kind of extra parts do you have?

and yea, that strut is fubar. Not to worry though. I've got a bunch of stuff on the way from www.kmwperformance.com (http://www.kmwperformance.com) Vince is a super nice and helpful guy, and their customer service is second to none. I heghly recommend them to anyone.

good to see the car is in good hands. should look sweet once its back on the ground, and not having all the stickers will definitely make it look even better. should put a billet wheel in it agian though.

Thanks. And I'm a pretty big fan of the momo wheel. Since Richie sold off most all the billet stuff, it kinda seems like it would be out of place. All the bezels for the dakota digital gauges are all brushed aluminum, and there's not much polished stuff on the inside.

[heineck]

If u could pm me the part # thatd be cool

[00redse]

MOMO hub k2401

Figued I'd post it here in case anyone else wants to know as well.

[kwhauck]

do you know if that hub is compatible with their quick release system...

[00redse]

It's a momo hub, and from what I gather, their quick release will work on all of their hubs. But it does make the steering wheel sit about 3" closer to you.

back to the air suspension though lol

My patience is wearing thin lol. My order from KMW is scheduled to be here monday. I went ahead and got some standard air line for now. Vince, from KMW was nice enough to throw in 75ft for free.

I'll still need to go to the Parker Store for some fittings. JaredGT still hasn't gotten my money back to me, but he did assure me it's coming, and he's gonna be throwing in some misc. fittings as well.

Thinking about putting in check valves at each corner before the lift valves just as extra insurance. They're kinda pricey, but I've seen some decent deals for some 1/2" ones.

Also thinking about getting some speed reducers for the dump valves. Not sure how fast it's gonna drop with all 1/2" line and 1/2" valves, and I don't wanna go slamming sown on the AED kit and crack anything. I'm not sure if the lowest point of travel on the air struts is gonna bottom the kit out or not... I don't think it will, but I don't want to find out the hard way.

Tested all my valves today finally, and all went well there. Still working on a clean way to mount them in the spare tire well. Not a lot of room to work with, and I know there's gonna be even less when I have all the air line actually running back there, and the wiring for all the valves, AND the pressure sensors for the Dakota Digital Air Pressure Gauge.

Curious to see how the charging system is gonna handle the 2 compressors and the 2 amps for the stereo. There's an Optima blue top in there now already, but I'm thinking about looking into a high output alternator as well. I've heard stories of h.o. alts not putting out what they should at idle though. Anyone have a reccomendation for a good h.o. alternator?

SoooOOOooo. Monday I'll mount the air tank and compressors, run the air lines to the spare tire well, and see how I'll be able to mount the valves. hopefully I'll also have the time to put the Dakota Digital setup in there too.

Once everything is wired and plumbed, I'll jack the car up and put the air struts in. Then air it all up, move it into the driveway and lay it out. Really looking forward to this. Should be a lot of fun. I already know there's gonna be hiccups and extra trips to the hardware store, the parker store, etc. So I'm not gonna rush things. Gonna make sure I take my time, do everything right the first time, take lots of pics, and not do a monkey job on any of the little details.

oh and Just so all of you know, Easystreet has stopped producing air struts for the n-body. Actually the set I ordered from kmw was the last they had in stock, and they were unable to locate any others. So for anyone else wanting to go air, you're gonna have to fabricate a universal bag setup. Which from talking to someone about it, wouldn't be terribly hard, and you could make it go even lower than the production ones.

Anyways. Can't wait to get the rest of this stuff in and get started.

[00redse]

Got some goodies today! Too bad the UPS guy came so late and we/ve been getting so much rain here in Phoenix, or I would've actually gotten some work done.

got new front air struts, air tank, dakota digital quad air pressure gauge with senders, pressure switch, leader hose for one of my compressors, switchbox, air line, relays and relay holders.

I have a busy week ahead of me, so tomorow I hope to at least get the tank and compressors in the trunk, and get the compressors wired up.

I need a new alternator, as the one in the car has decided to take a crap on me. I'm looking to get a high output alt from Iraggi, granted it's going to actually benefit the setup. I need to know about the crank pulley diameter and stock idle speed first of all though.

Stoked that everything is coming together though.

on to the pics.
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[hok666]

nice!

[Gr1m]

can i ask why u switched to a 10switch switchbox from richies 7switch one? they big one is always in the way and doesnt really do anything that the 7switch cant do

edit: NVM i forgot richie stripped the air ride out before he sold it

[Trickyslick]

Love that car...

[00redse]

I bring you updates

First, We have the compressors intstalled.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/2010-02-28150346.jpg
The relay for each compressor is just attetched to one of the mounting points for its compressor. Pretty simple to do the relays. I used this diagram for them from airridetalk.com
http://www.airridetalk.com/images/stories/wiring/1_1_0.gif

Next we have the tank with all of it's fittings attatched
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/2010-02-28161758.jpg
On top we have a T with the pressure switch on the right (this tells the compressors when to come on and when to shut off so as not to overfill the tank or let it get empty), and the pressure sending unit for the dakota digital gauge on the left. The Dakota digital gauge will tell me the air pressure of each bag, and the pressure in the tank as well. So you'll see one of those pressure sending units on each of the valve sets as well.

Here we have the tank mounted. This is where it all starts looking like it's supposed to. http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/2010-02-28151317.jpg

http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/2010-02-28151350.jpg

Now, some will notice that I'm using push-connect fittings. Thus, I've decided to not do the SS braided air lines. It was going to cost about 350 bucks to do those, and the benefits really didn't outweigh the cost, plus it's a lot easier to connect standard tubing to these than it is to twist the air line on to each valve in the tiny space of the spare tire well. Also, running the ss line like Richie used to have it meant running it inside the car, through the door sills, and there's already enough going through there. Vito from VTKustoms sealed the deal when I asked his opinion on it. He said his s-10 had standard tubing for the 7 year bagged life with no problem. So it was either spend the money for the ss line, PLUS fittings for it, or just use the line that KMW had thrown in for free when I bought the new front struts. The choice became quite simple.

Also... I don't know if I told you all about the bag setup that I'm now going to be using for the rear. And while I was at Vito's place, he pulled out a cutaway of one of the bags. Basically the exact bag I'll be using with half of the bag sut away to show the insides of it. So here it is
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/2010-02-27162312.jpg
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As you can see, it's a pretty normal looking bag except for the inside of it. There's basically a metal tube going down the middle of it. This way, it will slide right over a standard mcpherson strut. You must trim a few things on your strut to make the bag sit flush, and then it just slides right on. We will see how easy it actually is once they come in http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif I'm sure it's not gonna be as simple as it seems.

I started looking around to find where else this style of bag is being used, and found that the LX crowd (dodge chargers/magnums/challengers/300's) have been using this with great results. Also the 350z/g35 guys. I found where they're coming from, and just like easystreet, it's cheaper to buy from a distributor than to go right to the source. But for those that want to learn more about this style of bag, go take a look at http://www.universalairsuspension.com/on-road/index.php

and I found a review on one of the 300c forums too http://www.300cforums.com/forums/sus...uspension.html (http://www.300cforums.com/forums/suspension-handling-modifications/33140-writeup-review-universal-air-suspension.html)

I also got the valves all ready to go with fittings and the pressure sending units all done up. Didn't snap any pics of those, but I will get some before I install them and during the process of wiring them up too.

[clutch1]

Those are the same bags I have on my front. Not a fan... Takes a lot to fully air up, and doesn't have a lot of travel.

I would just go with the bolt ons.. but eh, your choice

[Gr1m]

i dont see why you would change from a sleeve to a....bellow?

[00redse]

This is why

I got a bad rear strut from the guy that sold me the original stuff. So I pretty much had to buy new front easystreets, and since easystreet no longer carrys or produces n-body air struts ( I bought the last front set I could find anywhere) There's no more rears left for sale. These actually go over your strut in place of the spring. These and some KYB AGX's should be sweeter than the easystreets. I've heard a lot of complaints with easystreets and popping sounds. Plus not being able to get replacement ones anymore, this seems like a sweet option. I'll keep you posted on how they work.
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/100_0550.jpg

[Gr1m]

im actually waiting for jeremy to send me my new RMA'd front set from the warehouse ill have them thursday according to him so i dont know what your saying they dont make n-bodies anymore

[clutch1]

Old one blew out all the strut juice? Who needs strut juice! LOL!

I think my Buick's blown out and pissed that stuff all over on all but one so far. It's a bouncy ride :P

[bdyman]

i`ll 2nd the poping noise, its horrible i saw on easy street site that its still availble

[00redse]

I talked to Jeremy about 2 weeks ago. Not in production anymore. That's all I know. That, and all the distributors say they can't get em either.

[00redse]

I stopped giving updates because I've been busy working on it. http://www.gaownersclub.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif

The rears worked out great!

Little bit more work than a bolt on affair, but nothing ridiculous at all. I may even switch my fronts out with the same bags as the rear.

Had to do some massaging of the inner wheel wells to do the rears, but not much. The fronts wouldn't even need any massaging to fit the universal air strut bags.

Also used the top mounts from the rear easystreets to make it sit lower. It ended up being just right. I could take it about another inch lower but that's it without getting tricky

I wish someone made some decent adjustable coilovers for our cars though. I'm gonna start looking into other makes models that have coilovers that may work.

Anyways,
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/100_0632.jpg?t=1269230592http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/00redse1/100_0621.jpg?t=1269229459

[clutch1]

Cool! Rear needs more drop though ;)

[zoL]

So damn sexy.

[Trickyslick]

damn I love that car...

[AftermathAlero]

sniff sniff! I miss her. :(

Yea the rear isn't as low. Its like 1.5" lower with the rear easystrut strut bags.

Still looks great tho! yay shes back on bags.

[Gr1m]

i just got my RMA'd front set today, it took them REALLLLLLLLLLYYYY long to ship them out to me and i got nervous when u said they werent in production anymore, it was almost a 2 month turnaround for the RMA but atleast they threw in the whole front set for making me wait instead of just the struts

BTW what kind of struts are you using with the new bags?

[00redse]

So you sent them back to easystreet and got a new set ot what?

For now the uas bags are on stock struts. Ill probably put some agx's on soon though

[Gr1m]

yes they have a 1year warranty on the sets for some damages, so i sent the struts back for an RMA and got new 1s

[00redse]

Nice.

I wonder if I could get mine repaired... I don't think they really repair them at all. Since it's sealed to the strut body, I think they just replac em.

[00redse]

sniff sniff! I miss her. :(

Yea the rear isn't as low. Its like 1.5" lower with the rear easystrut strut bags.

Still looks great tho! yay shes back on bags.


I can probably take the rears down about another inch with no problem.

I'm treating her very well. New alt and new battery. Mimiced the air setup you had in there pretty closely. I still may switch to the style of switchbox you had in there.

Also looking to tie it into the remote fob.

And possibly get a seperate controller with preset ride heights.

[Gr1m]

yea thats what happened to mine and i sent them in as an RMA, u need proof of purchase or u just waste $40 shipping them to easystreet lol

you could try to RMA them in and when they get declined for not having proof of purchase you could say u need a replacement set then and try to budge them into selling the set like that.

if you get the 7 switch switchbox style me and richie had there is actually a wire to dump all valves for an alarm trigger, you could hook that up to one of the channel on your SPAL brainbox and then just manually wire up a second relay for all corners tp fill for another channel on that brainbox aswell, as for the preset ride heights

the only thing you can do is to buy a whole kit that does this, i believe the whole air management kit was like $700 and it has preset ride height and you dont need your dakota digital gauges or a switchbox so you would have already been wasting your money on stuff lol

[K.I.T.T.2009]

Hey!
I've been shopping around for a complete air suspension kit for my Alero but I wanted to go digital and found out that Air Lift kit for the Alero is discontinued. Would you happen to know where would I be able to get everything I need to complete my project of going Air Ride??? I really don't want to go Coilovers and even that is pretty hard to find...thanks for Any Help you guys can help me with.:canada:

[billytheman1188]

^WTF....this dude joined in 2009 and this his first post.....on a thread that is 2 years old. Very random:lol: Nooob! :P

[sleepyalero]

omg.... :awesome: amazing

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/AleroHiRes12.jpg

[Papa Rad17]

omg.... :awesome: amazing

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/AleroHiRes12.jpg

one sec, I need to go change my pants

[sleepyalero]

yeah i almost had that problem too.... its my new laptop background. :D

[FrankTheTank]

not enough aleros out there bagged or juiced. stoopidalero has a set of strut bags for an alero he is practically giving away. you should pm him if you want a set.

[Goodman]

I am not a fan of cars low to the ground like that , it always look like the car suspension broke , to me it somehow look like a broken car

Same thing with really low profile tires the car look like it running on rims only not looking good to me , i like the tire to be flush to the fender but not under & i like to see a little bit of rubbers i wouldn't go higher than 17" on an Alero

But as for the rest of the car it looks really nice , one question though... how do you open the doors?

[Alerojester]

I don't mind the look of lowered cars i actually think it looks hella good the way his looks, actually the first time i saw it my jaw dropped like damn that's sexy but to each his/her own......

[AftermathAlero]

Ahh I do miss my old car! I hope mike is keeping her well. I was just looking at old photos a few days ago.

[xXManwhoreXx]

Aftermath back from the dead!

[xXManwhoreXx]

And goodman.. Door poppers on a key fob most likely

I wanted to do airride but the thought of a bomb in my trunk is a turn off

[sound_xtreme]

Chop the perches off the rears and you'll go much lower.

Richie! What's up man...

[00redse]

The car is being kept very well. Rarely driven right now. Moved to a new house with twice the room and also a garage finally. She sits right now in the driveway, with the front bumper off. The air valve on the rear drivers corner needs to be rebuilt or replaced, as if it sits for a few weeks, it'll raise that one corner lol. Needs new tires in front badly. My apologies for not posting up more, but life has been in the way, and last time I tried to log on, it said I couldn't log in. Dunno why, but they fixed it for me and then I never signed back on til now. Happy to answer any questions though

[ronnysbray]

If u could pm me the part # thatd be cool

I wanna know it tooo

[DRM Racing]

MOMO hub k2401

Figued I'd post it here in case anyone else wants to know as well.

this is the part number for the hub through MOMO K2401

[Difflay]

Where did you get those AC control knobs?

[Papa Rad17]

Where did you get those AC control knobs?

this is a very old thread... those are the stock knobs with the black cover thing taken off I believe.

[03glgold]

answered in another thread where it was asked the are out of the 1999-2000 models, in 2001 the switched to white plastic under the black rubber

[K.I.T.T.2009]

That looks dope bruh! Mine is on air 2 but I got a digital gauge and I also had to install the brain for the gauge and compressors in the spare wheel space. My audio equipment take up 80% of the trunk..lol

[sleepyalero]

That looks dope bruh! Mine is on air 2 but I got a digital gauge and I also had to install the brain for the gauge and compressors in the spare wheel space. My audio equipment take up 80% of the trunk..lol

This thread was created in 2010, the guy hasnt been back since.

Look above user name on left hand side it tells you when the last comment was, if its been awhile, dont bother reviving the thread. ;)

[adog420]

Where did you get your flame gauges at

[tw0123]

Pretty sure they're from speedhut.com I'm not sure though but most of this car is custom built so chances are it's a special order item...

[00redse]

Gonna bump this one back from the dead. I still have the car, it's doing ok, but needs some refreshing. The car had to sit in the AZ sun for a while, and the clear coat is trashed. Let it be noted: extra money for GOOD clear is worth it.

Air suspension is getting refreshed. Valves need cleaning or replaced. Adding some little things i should've done in the beginning (water traps, schrader valves, train horn)

The light bar in the rear is gonna get replaced also. Half the lights don't work at all... there's parking lights, but no brake lights at all. Gonna replace the whole thing with one that does amber turn signals that scan back and forth. I'll post a link later. The hard part is the current one had to have the inner frame of the trunk cut up and welded back together. So replacing it should be a fun job. I'll take some pics

The sliding ragtop is in need of recovering. Luckily the people who manufacture these are local (i had to get a new handle long ago and found this out)

So... Sorry I was never a huge contributor over here. I was on AED and GAGT more back in the day because i had my red GA back in the day. I still have al the good parts from the GA too, so i'm on the lookout for a 00-02 GASE sedan in red. Or maybe I'll sell off all the old GA parts if the mod bug wears off after refreshing the olds. Have full AED kit and hood. 2.4 supercharger w/ methanol injection, headers, exhaust, 18" centerline wheels, all just sitting.

Anywho, hello to all those still around, and all the new folks.

and yes, they're speedhut gauges with the flames. ;)

[sleepyalero]

Holy hell, welcome back. Post some current pics of the ride.

[00redse]

Holy hell, welcome back. Post some current pics of the ride.

Thanks :)

. Its not super pretty right now lol, im kinda ashamed to say it. however the az sun destroys paint here. Ive seen cars 3 years old have full oxidation starting. So I just need to stay motivated to work on it.

I have a bunch of fittings ordered for refreshing the air ride. my valves leak so im gonna tear it all out, clean up some wiring in there as well and hopefully start sanding it down and priming it thereafter.

the trunk isnt opening unless i jump 12v to the relay socket, so i think i need to check wiring there. the relay and terminals show some corrosion. i bought a new relay. still no go. no clicking.

the tail light never really worked perfect. theyre just shoddily made to begin with if you read reviews on light bars like these youll see. so a new one that fits in place will get ordered soon too. its only 36" wide so that limits my options.

[tw0123]

I'm happy to see this car still lives on... It gave me the inspiration to kit and bag my car... :)

[00redse]

I haven't forgot to post up, but I have been working on it a bit. Got all the air ride and stereo stuff out of the trunk and redid my past wiring spaghetti from my first attempt on air ride. The fittings on the valves were bulky as hell. like 7 brass fittings for each fill/dump, so i ordered 4 branch T's with gauge ports from AVS (1fitting per fill/dump) along with 4 half inch check valves and 2 nice water traps. I painted all the valve brackets, and am putting them back together with some slow downs on the dumps so its a bit easier to dine adjust. With 1/2 inch lines and valves all around, this car hops a bit when hitting the up switches, and it goes down QUICK, and i wanna fiddle with slowing that down a bit. i see why richie had 3/8 valves for the dumps on the old air setup.

[tw0123]

Yeah i was scared of dumping too quickly and catching a curb or something like that... I went with 1/4" lines all the way with mine... I also used a little Larry's fourplay switch instead of electric valves... I can control the up/down speed by how much i push on each toggle... I've got a couple small leaks i need to trace but so far for my first air ride I'm having a blast lol

[00redse]

Yeah i was scared of dumping too quickly and catching a curb or something like that... I went with 1/4" lines all the way with mine... I also used a little Larry's fourplay switch instead of electric valves... I can control the up/down speed by how much i push on each toggle... I've got a couple small leaks i need to trace but so far for my first air ride I'm having a blast lol

that larrys fourplay looks like a neat idea. Seems like it would be more fun with bigger lines and valves

i totally have done the dump too quickly thing. my friend leaned on the switchbox as we were turnin into a parking lot. Dumped driver front side. Peeled a 2 inch wide patch of tread off ALL the way around a brand new tire. Looked like how an apple peeler looks when you start to peel an apple lol. It caught on where the inner fenders are cut to allow clearance. left a sharp edge perfect to catch it on only if youre turning. luckily the fender didnt get chewed up.

edit: use some soapy water in a spray bottle to find those leaks. do you use teflon tape, or loctite, or what?

[tw0123]

Yeah i love the fourplay... It can use up to 1/2" lines but like i said i don't want to dump too fast... Especially if someone hits the switch haha...

I used loctite on all my fittings, some are ptc's though and I'm wondering if i didn't get either a straight enough edge or just not pushed in quite far enough for a tight seal... And yeah a soapy bath will be used when i can find time...

[00redse]

switched over to easystreet rear struts and Richie was definitely right. The car sits about an inch and a half lower. Makes a big difference. Also never really noticed how much cutting went into making this thing sit as low as possible. Theres a mini tub job done to the driver side rear lol. passenger side has way more room, so it wasnt needed there.

[tw0123]

Did you get any pictures of those tubs? I've heard the front needs trimmed a bit too...

[00redse]

Yep. Here's a couple of the back drivers side. Inside the trunk. And also in the wheel well of the front driver side.

[00redse]

And here's one of the rear from the wheel well. The driver side is the only one needing room it seems. The fuel filler being on the other side opens things up and there's plenty of room over there.

[tw0123]

Sweet thanks for the pictures!!! I'll have to check mine to see if I'm rubbing at all there... I'm only sitting on 17's right now so i could be clear unlike the 20's you're on haha!!

[00redse]

Also i forgot to show the part directly below the door strike is cut out too on the rear. it sits so low now its perfect. i was never really at the height Richie had it at until now. I didnt want all that hard work going to waste, so its now back on easystreets and sitting low as hell. Actually it is on stands again while putting in ball valves and schrader valves on each corner. now I can isolate each corner if there is a leak or compressor fault and then fill it up like a tire. Also should be able to use the ball valves as a speed reducer too so it doesnt always have to be set up to lift super fast either. Big valves are fun to show off at first, but slow adjusting is nice too sometimes.
Also, I have some 18" centerline dynos I can throw on and check clearances, but it should be a similar overall diameter either way. the 20s have a tiny sidewall and are only 7.5" wide. I need one more tire for my centerlines though.

[tw0123]

nice!! Those 20's suit that car so well though lol... I'll have to see what your wheels look like on there haha!!

I put a single Schrader on my tank to use in case the comps fail... If the car is aired out it'd be pretty hard to get into the bag to fill it up, where with mine i can fill the tank and still use my switches to lift me up... Plus it'll give me some extra air supply in case there is a slow leak in a line or bag to get me home... That's my thought process anyways!! Hopefully i don't have to test it out anytime soon!!!

[00redse]

right. Thats why i put the schrader at the end of a ss leader hose in the trunk. The pic with my hand and the ss braided line... the hole in the rear strut tower goes right to the outlet of the bag. but on the other end (in the trunk) has a T and the schrader is right there. just gotta fold the back seats down.

edit: also by having 4 schraders and ball valves, if a line fails, or valve gets stuck (or frozen for you up there in Canada) or the checkvalve on your compressor fails and you start losing air quickly, you can just isolate the bags from the tank and compressors. And it makes working on the car easier too. if you need to take off an air line or whatever and you dont want to have the car layed out. Hell, i can remove all my solenoid valves, my tank, my compresors, and still roll it around town. just no on the fly adjustability, and my air sensors will read incorrectly.

[tw0123]

That sounds awesome!! I'm new to the whole air ride and I'm still learning tricks like that!!!

My car is pretty much off the road for winter, I'll take it out probably once more to give her a good wash and top up the gas tank and she'll be away til spring... I still have a bunch of work to get finished hopefully over the winter to get ready for paint and put the interior back together again haha

[00redse]

This arrived this week.

This is the only way I've found that you can get new struts for the old Easystreet setup. You order pn 35335 for the rear. This is as far as they'll break down their "universal strut kit" I don't need the bag, just the strut to replace the one that's leaked since I bought it (used)

I've tried UAS "sleeves" over stock struts. They rubbed. Not bad, but they did. And they didn't sit as low as the Easystreet rears.

This new bag has an internal "bumpstop" that seems like it wouldn't allow you to go as low as the old easystreet kit. But I also think they sent me the wrong one. Kinda. I wanted the "short strut / short bag" but the one I got seems like it's a 5 inch rubber, not the 4 I talked with Air Lift about. No matter I guess, since my old bag is fine, just the strut inside. So the idea is to take the strut out of this one, and the strut out of my old one, and swap. Gotta grind welds off the old one and remove the outer tube, then slide it over the new one and weld. Might end up just making a new tube. Kinda hard to describe, but I'll take pics of the old one when I take it off again.

As for now. The car sits on the used easystreet rear struts. The one that leaks is still ok, but not for much longer. These sit super low, and ride decent.

[riceralero]

please get different rims. the current ones make me gag

[00redse]

Lol.

It's a shame the wheels don't meet your discerning tastes (and that you have such a weak stomach)
However, your opinion means very little to me.
That being the only thing you could contribute to the thread says a lot about you.
You won't find me stepping into your threads to leave any negativity, even if the opportunity presents itself. Which in your case it certainly does lol.

I do have some 18" forged Centerline Dyno wheels if those might suit your refined tastes any better. However the wheels on the car suit it just fine to me. They tuck, and leave literally millimeters in clearance when laid out.

I appreciate that you have an opinion, and that this is a public forum, but
when I post a thread asking for wheel comments, you make sure you post in that one.


Anyhow.....
I took the car for a nice long drive today. It drives really nice still.Pulls hard and rides smooth down the freeway. Hard to believe I've had it for 8 years. Here's some current(ish) pics. It's not as dirty as these pics show. I cleaned it up a bit since. I only have a limited amount of time/energy/money I put into cars and modding these days. Being in my mid 30's owning a business and having 4 daughters is as time consuming as it gets.https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16107278_10209846999229724_4660558279217145840_o.j pg?oh=73d5a57603a122b6c2b1e3513b741075&oe=59652A2Fhttps://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15975232_10209847004949867_4331488365614924504_o.j pg?oh=72e0b5e330a3af937729876151c97d6e&oe=592CCC0Fhttps://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/15936918_10209846995989643_4354180964692449708_o.j pg?oh=394ac919ce5113b3c516b08957974b7f&oe=5932835D

[tw0123]

even with her slight flaws from old age she's beautiful man...

And just for shits n giggles, if you ever decide to sell those 20's I'll take them!!! I tried to make a deal with Richie on them when he was selling the car/parting it out... I guess you made the deal for the whole car at the same time so you won haha!!!

[00redse]

I'll keep you in mind if I ever part with them. I don't see it happening, but stranger things have occurred.

And thanks. It's a blast of a car to have as a toy/project.
And if you look in the background of the rear interior shot, there's a peek at the last remnants of S&S Headers. Its a non welded set of headers I'm planning on using to do a nice set of tubular manifolds for it. Down the road still a bit. Should see nice gains over the log manifolds the turbo setup uses now.

[riceralero]

the 18" forged Centerline Dynos are really nice...i think i dont like the current ones because i like a wheel with a more matte or brushed finish....think bronze te37´s