2 JL W6's Power Help

[Rubiks43]

Hey guys..

Ok so heres whats up.

my next door nabor has his w7 13.5 and i love it!!!

well i need to be better! DUH!!!!! but i love the image of 2 subs.

im buliding my box now :)

and i have 2 JL w6's comeing my way.


so down to the real question.


power! With out droping a grand what the best way to power these subs.

in my head i know that 2 1000/1 Jl amps would do the trick but im thinking i need 2 amps powered right to get real sound out of these babys.

or one nice amp witch i would like better then 2.


so if u can understand me.

plz help :)

[02AleroEco]

will the subs be bridged too 4ohms? because that it how i have my two 10s. with a 4ohm mono amp. If you do it like that the subs will prbably put out 600rms i think im not an expert thats jsut an example. hoppe this helps a bit

[Cashdollar2009]

Nevermind, i found they are dual 4 ohm... you can wire the two down to a 1-ohm load. Find a good mono-amplifier to push them. They are rated 600wrms a piece so i'd find something rated to put out about 1500, and adjust the gain appropriately. I personally wouldn't have gone with jl to start with, but as long as you didn't pay msrp i can't bash you too much. ;) If you want affordable power, i would look into the hifonics bxi1610d. I've ran one for over a year with not a single issue. Cheap power, quality amplifier, great price. http://cgi.ebay.com/Hifonics-BXI-1610D-1600W-Class-D-Mono-Block-Brutus_W0QQitemZ300399060320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Amplifiers?hash=item45f12de560
What you should be worried about is your electrical more than anything if you'll be playing with something bigger than 1000 watts. It won't be too big of a deal here, but i would look into at least the kinetik hc600 or something as such. Do your big three in some 1/0, and run at least 4ga power, and you should be fine. You're not going to need a ho alt. here. I'm sure you'll get some more amplifier suggestions here or there. What is your current electrical by the way? Also, what are you looking to spend? Probably could have started with those questions...

[JLw7123]

well the RMS of the W6 is 600 so just get two of these amps.http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_amps.php?amp_id=557 My buddy has some 13.5 inch w7s hw runs 2 1000.1 amps and the amps are 1000 watts RMS so two of them would be to much for each sub .

[Rubiks43]

Hey Guys Need ur help will this amp do the job?

http://www.logicsoundlab.com/GX1800.html

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/for/1618538607.html

[Cashdollar2009]

Will it make them play? Yes. Will it meet anywhere near rms? No. Would you be happier holding off until you found a better amplifier for them? Yes. I don't want to sound like a dink, but trust me dude, i went out on a cheapo, unheard of brand, underpowering amp to begin with, i later upgraded to at least meet the subwoofers specifications and couldn't be happier. My only regret is that i didn't do it right the first time, and feel like i threw $175.00 down the drain.

And when choosing an amplifier look at rms. Your only wiring options are either 1-ohm, or 4-ohms. Make sure the amplifier specifications match up to them. I would not drop $200 on that amp that you would have to either 1. underpower your subs by at least 400watts, or fry the amplifier because it is 1-ohm stable.

[Rubiks43]

Thank you. I am haveing a hard time find an amp for 200 that can push 600 rms for two subs. and i taght i understood ohms and i dont!

they r 4 ohms sub but u can wire them to be 2 and blah blah!

I just want a amp that can do the job damn it and my limit is 200.

and i want them to power it perfectly lol.

the amp u showed me would that do the job??

and man that just means a notther check going to ebay!

[Rubiks43]

What is your current electrical by the way?

ill be rewireing my car to what is needed.


Also, what are you looking to spend? Probably could have started with those questions...

200

[heineck]

talk to RFO he might be able to hook u up. and rewired to wats needed? wat do have now

[Rubiks43]

talk to RFO he might be able to hook u up. and rewired to wats needed? wat do have now

im probly gonna go to 1/0

Or 4G

im at 6 right now.

who is RFO??

and hook ups are nice

[Cashdollar2009]

RFO is Ryan From Ohio.

[jabartram]

try these for good inexpensive power. i run a hifonics brutus bxi2008d and its a beast.


hifonics and crunch are made by Maxxsonics both good amps.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CRUNCH-P1500-1-1500-WATT-Mono-Car-Amp-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ230442422154QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Car_Amplifiers?hash=item35a7704f8a#ht_3639wt_1165

http://cgi.ebay.com/Hifonics-BXI-1610D-1600W-Class-D-Mono-Block-Brutus_W0QQitemZ300399060320QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar _Amplifiers?hash=item45f12de560#ht_1683wt_939

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8369&stc=1&d=1264889141

[Ryan from Ohio]

Well if your looking at that kind of power...

1) You will need to do entire Big 3 with 4 Ga wiring

2) Extra battery is pretty much necessary- or a larger alternator

3) 1/0 wire to the back.

At the end of the day you want an amplifier with enough headroom to do what you need without maxing itself out.


American bass VFL series provides a competition quality/duty amplifier at a decent price. There more flexibility also...

http://americanbassusa.com/front/showcontent.aspx?fileid=181

That would run $300

A little more tame would be the 80.1 for $200

http://americanbassusa.com/front/showcontent.aspx?fileid=291

1/0 wiring kits for $80

I also have the Crunch 1500.1 Available for $140

I have the Brutus amp also but my pricing is not competitive on it.

The Brutus amp is a decent amp, will do what it says.

For $200 though your budget is pretty weak. Especially if thats to include wiring.

Remember, you get what you pay for!

[Rubiks43]

[QUOTE=Ryan from Ohio;528935]The Brutus amp is a decent amp, will do what it says.

For $200 though your budget is pretty weak. Especially if thats to include wiring.

Remember, you get what you pay for!QUOTE]

I may go with that amp. then im willing to pay more if it will match the subs how i like them.

The 200 to 250 is for the amp alone.

wiring will be done regardless.

and am looking at a 2nd new batt.

i am getting alot of help and i thank you guys so much cuz i need it :?

but my foucs is a amp first and so far the Hifonics BXI 1610D

is my best opp??

Thank you.
Will

[Rubiks43]

Could this be it???

could this be the one???

it looks like it could be.

and i like the pretty lights ;)

plz tell me whatcha think b4 i buy

HIFONICS BXi2006D

http://cgi.ebay.com/HIFONICS-BXi2006D-2000-WATT-MONOBLOCK-AMPLIFIER-CAR-AMP_W0QQitemZ290398215283QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_Am plifiers?hash=item439d151c73

[Ryan from Ohio]

I think thats a little bit to much.

How do you feel about refurbished products?

[Rubiks43]

its only 60 RMS over the sub i need 600 per sub.

and so wouldent that be perfect???


and i guess as long as they work the same it should be no differnt...
right?

[Ryan from Ohio]

?

Are your subs DVC 4 Ohms?

If so you have a 1 Ohm load. Your looking for around 1,200-1,500 WRMS @ 1 ohm.

This is 2,000 WRMS @ 1 Ohm. 800 WRMS more than you need...

Thats to dangerous, especially considering your level of knowledge. This makes blowing subs easy...

[Rubiks43]

?

Are your subs DVC 4 Ohms?

If so you have a 1 Ohm load. Your looking for around 1,200-1,500 WRMS @ 1 ohm.

This is 2,000 WRMS @ 1 Ohm. 800 WRMS more than you need...

Thats to dangerous, especially considering your level of knowledge. This makes blowing subs easy...

yes they are.

but i wasent gonna wire it to 1ohm cuz that causes the sub to mess up i keep hearing


"Thats to dangerous, especially considering your level of knowledge. This makes blowing subs easy..." LOL TRUE I DONT WANT THAT!

hint y i am asking for help :)

[Ryan from Ohio]

Why would it make the subs mess up?

Theres no danger in it.

Its all about application. To much power, wrong box, bad tuning is what leads to blowing subs.

[JLw7123]

you can power a sub past it recommended wattage or RMS but you have to know what you are doing to do that everything has to be hooked up and tuned right.

[Alerojester]

hence why i have a good friend who works as an installer do everything for my vehicles that way i know its right and everything is matched up all i do is pay for it

[JLw7123]

same here I have a friend that went to school for car audio.

[Rubiks43]

Why would it make the subs mess up?

Theres no danger in it.

Its all about application. To much power, wrong box, bad tuning is what leads to blowing subs.



I recall people telling me that if I go down to 1 ohm it causes distortion and ruins the subs...

[Ryan from Ohio]

You need to stop listening to idiots.

:lol:

[Rubiks43]

LOL true ok. So then can u tell me what amp will do the job 4 me?

[Ryan from Ohio]

Personally I would look for an amp thats 1,200-1,500 WRMS @ 1 Ohm.

Given your skill level I would HIGHLY advise you seek out 1,000 WRMS @ 1 Ohm though.

Simply due to reason that you will probably incorrectly set the gains and blow these subs out. Bottom line is with 1,000 WRMS you will safe guard yourself...

I know Ive changed my suggestion, but thats due to me realizing your skill level.

Even if you can utilize 1,200WRMS you wont hear any difference between 1,200 and 1,000. I can tell you that.

The Brutus amps that were posted earlier are old stock...

The new ones should work also, BRZ1200.1D (1,200 WRMS @ 1 Ohm)- I dont sell these.
http://www.hifonics.com/Hifonics_Brutus_BRZ_Amps.html

The Crunch P1000.1 will work
http://crunchusa.net/Crunch_PZAmp.html

American Bass VFL 80.1
http://www.americanbassusa.com/front/showcontent.aspx?fileid=291

Massive DB2000s
http://massiveaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=16211&cat=275&page=1

MB Quart Discus 1000.1
http://onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/p_19738_MB_Quart_DSC10001.aspx

I can get you prices on the AB, Crunch and Massive tonight if you like.

[Rubiks43]

Thank you..

I desided i think on. BXI1610D.

if someone think i shouldent pm me b4 its to late lol.

i will take power slow. dw i wont mess this all up.

and i am doing my fair surch of resurch so i think ill be ok. thanks for ur worrys tho.

and all the help i have wire not i just need to get a battery amp and i am finishing my custom box :)

[Cashdollar2009]

Thank you..

I desided i think on. BXI1610D.

if someone think i shouldent pm me b4 its to late lol.

i will take power slow. dw i wont mess this all up.

and i am doing my fair surch of resurch so i think ill be ok. thanks for ur worrys tho.

and all the help i have wire not i just need to get a battery amp and i am finishing my custom box :)

Post up pics of the box when you get it finished. :)

[Ryan from Ohio]

Just beware of the RMS power.

You blow those subs JL WILL NOT warranty them. You will be SOL.

You will need a DMM to set your gains properly.

[Ryan from Ohio]

And if you wanted to try something different and small,

http://massiveaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=16224&cat=281&page=1

$240

http://massiveaudio.com/store/product.php?productid=16211&cat=275&page=1

$230