oil pressure gauge

[sleepyalero]

I'm planning on buying a mech. oil press gauge from glowshift. the elite 7 color black ones.. anyone who could help me on what all i need. and how to install would be great. just trying to get ideas before i buy it.

you can go to glowshiftdirect.com and look on there at the elite 7 black series and maybe help! thanks!

[jabartram]

dont waste your money, they dont last long. i just tossed all of mine in the trash after 4 months of use.

[heineck]

ive had mine for a few months, and smurf had em a year before that. (i bought his old ones). lets start with what engine go you have?

[cherrington17]

i have an electronic glowshift gauge. its been working fine for about a year now.

[Redog]

Go with Autometer

The have a lot of different designs and don't look as ricy as the gloshift ones. Plus they last! American made quality, not Chinese crap.

The mech oil gauge will require a brass tubing kit. You can use the nylon tube they give you, but I went with brass from the get-go. Autometer does have a tubing kit, I bought 2 of them to give me 12 feet. You need about 9 to 10 on the 3400 engine.

Be sure to tighten the tubing up in the connectors. Don't do what I did and just push it in place. What a mess :(

[sleepyalero]

ive had mine for a few months, and smurf had em a year before that. (i bought his old ones). lets start with what engine go you have?

3400

[sleepyalero]

im lookin at some autometer ones now.

[Redog]

Autometer mechinal oil gauges:


http://www.summitracing.com/search/Brand/Auto-Meter/Department/Gauges-Accessories/Section/Gauges-Individual/Part-Type/Gauges-Analog/Gauge-Type/Oil-pressure/Sending-Unit/Mechanical/Gauge-Size-in/2-1-16-in-diameter/?keyword=autometer&page=1

[sleepyalero]

so far i have the following gauges in a cart from autometer..

- oil pressure full sweep, mech. 0-100 psi. comes with...
Auto Meter Part # 4321
Includes 10' nylon tubing with 1/8" NPT fittings
Includes 1/4'' NPT adapter/fittings
May require 18-gauge wire for installation

- vaccuum mech. gauge. full sweep.

Auto Meter Part # 4384
Range: 0 - 30 In. Hg.
Peak Recall/Memory Function
Includes 10' nylon tubing with 1/8" NPT fittings
Includes T-fitting
May require 18-gauge wire for installation

- volt meter up to 18V short sweep.

Auto Meter Part # 4391
Air-Core meter movement
May require 18-gauge wire for installation

think i need anything else with this?

[Redog]

2 of these, I wouldn't use the nylon tube for the oil, vacuum OK but not oil

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3224/

I bought 2 and had a little bit of slack, but it's copper, you bend it in the place you want and it will stay put

You know that those gauges are side lit, they do not light up like the gloshift gauge you were looking at

[guiguilandry]

I got this one that i just removed today... the autometer cobalt one http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-6121/
I've put an electric one instead on my car...
how 50 shipped sound for you ?

[Monza]

I had a mechanical oil pressure guage leak inside the car once a long time ago. Never again.

[sleepyalero]

2 of these, I wouldn't use the nylon tube for the oil, vacuum OK but not oil

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-3224/

I bought 2 and had a little bit of slack, but it's copper, you bend it in the place you want and it will stay put

You know that those gauges are side lit, they do not light up like the gloshift gauge you were looking at

are you saying they dont light up at night?

[sleepyalero]

I got this one that i just removed today... the autometer cobalt one http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ATM-6121/
I've put an electric one instead on my car...
how 50 shipped sound for you ?

maybe. depends which ones i choose to use, i really dont want 2 or 3 different types of gauges haha i want one series. i might do colbolt ones.. we see.

[Gr1m]

electrical one ftw

[Redog]

Mech gauges are more accurate.

Electrical gauges and OK in modern cars like the Alero, but old school cars, should have old school gauges

My tranny gauge would have been mech, if they made a mech in that series

[sleepyalero]

yeah thats why im going with mech gauges.

[Redog]

Plus, probably becasue I had a Faze (Sunpro) gauge in my car, but the sending unit for the oil gauge crapped out.

Don't know if it was too close to the header, or just a poor unit. With a mech gauge, don't have to worry about that :D

[sleepyalero]

redog can u give me advice. like on what i need? does the kits come with what u need for the alero? or do i need to buy a different sender for the car? and a detailed description if u can on the install for oil press. like where does the sender go?

[Redog]

No the gauges come with everything you need, however I highly suggest buying the brass tubing kit for the mech oil gauge. Personally I don't trust the thin nylon tubing they give you. It crimps easy and could tear. You may have to buy some wire, crimps and crimp tool, and I would suggest an AG (automotive glass) inline fuse holder and fuse. One for lighting, one for the electric gauges you put in

The gauges do light up at night, but they just have a 194 bulb in them. It's basic, simple, old fashoined side lighting like cars had in the early 80's and earily. Sometimes they can be a little hard to see, but they do work.

http://www.autometer.com/cat_gaugeseries.aspx

Take a look at autometer's site. Gauges like the Carbon Fiber, Phantom, Ultra Lite and so on are "side lit" they lite with a 194 blub. Gauges like the NV, Nexus, Ultra Lite II are lit with LED type lighting. Pretty much like the clusters in today's cars.

Figure out what you want gauge wise, and then see if they have what you are looking for, in the style you like.

[sleepyalero]

thanks for that info. but idk im really set on the glowshift. they're in my budget more. but idk if i can use autometers copper lines with the glowshift.. cause yeah i agree about the nylon hose. and is the fuse necessary?

[sleepyalero]

please post a link about the fuses and stuff where i can order em or get pics on what they look like so i have an idea. i looked it up on google and i see a ton im not sure on which. (btw im new to the gauge deal sorry about all the questions haha) but i appreciate it.

[wrestlingandrunning]

thanks for that info. but idk im really set on the glowshift. they're in my budget more. but idk if i can use autometers copper lines with the glowshift.. cause yeah i agree about the nylon hose. and is the fuse necessary?

I wouldn't cheap out on gauges, I did when I went with prosport and I regret it. They look nice but they crapped out on me and I had to send them back so they could get me new ones. Then there customer service sucks so I had to wait a couple months while they kept telling me they'd send them back and never did. I'm not sure about glowshitf but from what I've mostly heard there just another cheap brand and more for looks than anything. So you'll definietly want to go with a gauge you don't have to worry about especially if you plan on racing or doing some engine modification.

[Caboose73]

Glowshifts are fine i have 4 digital blue gauges from them(boost/vac,oil pressure,fuel pressure and another oil pressure gauge) ive had them for almost 2 years and not a single problem ill post pics later today of them.

[Redog]

^^ Get off your butt and go to Auto Zone :lol:

The fuse holder will look like this, you cut the wire in half and strip the cover off exposing the wire:

http://www.pl-259.com/Fuse%20Holder%20HD%203AG.JPG

The fuses look like this, wait until you get the gauges to see how many amps the gauge needs:


http://media.digikey.com/photos/Bel%20Photos/3AG%20250-R.JPG

The conncetors you need look like this, You'll need a butt connceter and a splice conncetor, most likely 18-22 gauge (usually red):

http://www.wiringproducts.com/contents/media/2156h-outlined.jpg

And the splice:

See how the wires are stripped? That's how you do it and I twist the copper part before putting in the connector. Just like twisting hair together

http://www.gordonrichards.net/300zx/foglight.splice.connector.jpg


I perfer to conncet the wiring like this, twist the wires together like I said and put the wires in the conncetor and crimp it:

http://www.xcalibr.net/navDIY2/6.jpg


Here is an example of the wires all connceted:

http://www.bfranker.badz28.com/fbody/exp175.JPG

And the crimp tool looks like this, this you can also get at Auto Zone with the wiring. It strips, cuts, and crimps, but no it doesn't make fries :lol:

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/graphics/604252-1.jpg

[Redog]

And if the oil gauge you buy has a 1/8, 27 npt conncetor on it, then yes that copper kit WILL work

[Caboose73]

Heres the gauges i have its kinda a mix right now cause im in the middle of swapping everything over to cyberdyne gauges. Well the top 2 in the 3 pillar pod and the right one on the cluster gauge are the glowshift digital blue the other one on the cluster gauge if my new cyberdyne gauge and the other one on the pillar is some crappy no name autozone gauge.
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/rmsawyer73/Parts%20pics/Gaugesoff.jpg
http://i638.photobucket.com/albums/uu110/rmsawyer73/Parts%20pics/Gaugeson.jpg

[sleepyalero]

thats tight i like the way you did those gauges. and thanks redog for the very specific details! GREATLY APPRECIATED! and are you sure the crimper cant make fries? hahahhaa

[sleepyalero]

oh also redog it says the Oil Pressure gauges come complete with a 1/8th npt male thread electrical oil pressure sender

im assuming that wont work because it isnt a 1/8th 27 npt?

[Ttop191]

npt just means pipe thread it's all standard, same thing

[Caboose73]

oh also redog it says the Oil Pressure gauges come complete with a 1/8th npt male thread electrical oil pressure sender

im assuming that wont work because it isnt a 1/8th 27 npt?


If its an electrical gauge like my glow shift you just screw in the sender into the block and then just run wires back to the gauge.

[sleepyalero]

If its an electrical gauge like my glow shift you just screw in the sender into the block and then just run wires back to the gauge.

its going to be a mech gauge

[sleepyalero]

npt just means pipe thread it's all standard, same thing

ah gotcha

[Redog]

No that is the correct size. I think most oil gauges have the same fitting on them.

I forgot, you'll need this too, VERY IMPORTANT!!!

Teflon tape!!! You can get this at Home Depot, for about $1 a roll. Plus it's super awesome stuff. If you still live at home, your dad might have this in his tool box ;)

http://bathroom-kitchen-faucets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/teflon_tape.jpg

http://www.cybersax.com/QA/TeflonTape/Applying%20Teflon%20Tape%202.jpg

[sleepyalero]

right on thanks alot oh and i was looking behind the a pillar and there is like... styraphome im gonna say behind it, should i remove that too? or just the pillar?

[Caboose73]

leave pieces of foam behind the clips cause if you take it all out the clips will go all the way down and you wont be able to clip it in.

[Redog]

^^ Yes but I think he was asking about reinstalling it with the gauge pod.

No, it won't fit ;)

[sleepyalero]

ok so i gotta take it off then haha i ordered the gauges yesterday. :D last question.... lol the oil pressure sender, where does it go? and what do i do with the old one?

[sleepyalero]

or the stock one.. whatever

[sleepyalero]

haha:)

[zzyzzx]

I had a mechanical oil pressure guage leak inside the car once a long time ago. Never again.


I put an electric one in a car once. The needle bounced around so much I had tp put a huge capacitor across it just to smoothen out the needle. That and I can't say that it was in any way useful. Other gauges yes, oil pressure, not really.

[sleepyalero]

what kind was it

[sleepyalero]

what do u do with oil pressure sender? once new one is in its place

[cherrington17]

what do u do with oil pressure sender? once new one is in its place

take it off, use it as a paper weight.

[sleepyalero]

take it off, use it as a paper weight.

lol ok thanks