Air intake tubing that you should buy

[radomirthegreat]

You may be using Spectre's corrugated plastic tubing. I am, and I have it because it's extremely cheap. However, I strongly recommend that you change your setup to this expensive stuff with a couple extras. It doesn't absorb heat from the engine like metal piping does, it won't kink, and it's aircraft-grade stuff that NASCAR, ASA, and SCCA guys use. Actually, NASCAR and other organizations use the single-ply tubing for brake ducting, but double-ply is better because it's smoother on the inside.

Colored Double-Ply Silicone Brake Duct Hose (http://www.hrpworld.com/googlebase.cfm?key=Aeroduct%20Hose%20-%20Colored%202-Ply%20Silicone%20&form_prod_id=,167,59,309,_3171&action=product)

You can only choose between red, blue, or orange. I think that since the 3" tubing is marked as YELLOW, choosing the colors may not make a difference. The pictures on that site are terrible, so let's look to Amazon for $40-higher prices but with more pictures.
Amazon link (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dautomotive&field-keywords=double-ply+silicone&x=0&y=0)

I recommend the 3" ducting since it's easiest to make it work. This stuff is awesome since you just put it on a metal or plastic coupler/throttle body/MAF sensor and tighten it with a hose clamp. It is its own coupler! The price may be a turn-off, but you only need 2-3 feet. With a group buy, we could be set. Do we have enough faith in the forum to do a group buy, and who is normally in charge?

Also, I highly recommend getting a 3" velocity stack adapter.
3" velocity stack adapter (http://www.shopatron.com/products/productdetail/part_number=9602/2231.0?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleshopping)
With this, clamp the tubing onto the 3" end and put on an air filter with a 6" flange. Here is a list of 6" flange air filters from K&N, AEM, and Amsoil:

K&N
6" long (http://www.jegs.com/i/K-N/599/RU-3100/10002/-1?parentProductId=758719)
8" long (http://www.jegs.com/i/K-N/599/RU-3050/10002/-1?parentProductId=758719)
10" long (http://www.jegs.com/i/K-N/599/RU-3280/10002/-1?parentProductId=758719)
18" long (http://www.jegs.com/i/K-N/599/RC-3070/10002/-1?parentProductId=758719) <- Yes, that's a foot and a half of filtering madness!

AEM
9" long (http://www.jegs.com/i/AEM-Induction/598/21-2099DK/10002/-1?parentProductId=762071)

Amsoil order page (http://www.amsoil.com/catalog.aspx?GroupID=24)
Use the following part numbers:
EaAU6065 - 6.5" long
EaAU6075 - 7.5" long
EaAU6080 - 8" long

Ultimately, this gives you a huge filter, a velocity stack to increase air intake speed, very smooth intake tubing at under $7 per foot (at length), and you should get a few more HP out of this setup than with plastic Spectre tubing. Also, this intake tubing does not absorb engine bay heat like metal piping does. It's in my opinion a superior intake. You will need a small metal/plastic coupler for your vacuum/crank vent/air temp sensor, but I don't have a link for that right now.

[FlyingSpoon]

Well myself I don't like plastic anything. So I used some polished aluminum pipe and just cut and bend to however you like. I would recommend doing it that way to anyone.

[radomirthegreat]

Aluminum tubing is great and is very smooth, but it heats up. I actually don't mind that part too much, but either way this stuff definitely helps when you don't have a tubing bender. After a group buy, it's really cheap and it can be bent with less than human strength. All in all, this is just one more option and not an alternative to all other ways.

[xXManwhoreXx]

One word....... Header Heat Wrap...

[cherrington17]

Thats 3 words. Good counting skills manwhore. :p


I have a WAI. What do I care if my aluminum heats up? :lol:

[XanderWiFi]

I have thought about this but the physics still don't add up. You may have heat conduction with the aluminum piping, but a piece of plastic tubing would be no more efficient at blocking heat transfer to the air within.

Looks like an interesting concept, but appears to be no more than glorified dryer duct tubing...Does not say much about the durability either in case something were to hit the tubing to maintain pressure and protection.

[[ion] C2]

Aluminum tubing is great and is very smooth, but it heats up.
Feel my charge piping tubing. All aluminum. The turbocharger side is hot, after going through an aluminum intercooler, the engine side that goes into the engine is cold. Air intake temperatures are always ambient.

Heat wrapping the intake or using all silicone is not going to make any noticeable difference whatsoever...

[xXManwhoreXx]

C2;569791']Feel my charge piping tubing. All aluminum. The turbocharger side is hot, after going through an aluminum intercooler, the engine side that goes into the engine is cold. Air intake temperatures are always ambient.

Heat wrapping the intake or using all silicone is not going to make any noticeable difference whatsoever...

True... but if they ask how to keep it cool that is an obvious fix

[XanderWiFi]

what is an intercooler?

[jabartram]

my intake tubing is header wrapped from the filter in the fender to the MAF and i wrapped the MAF for good measure. i did it because i had leftover header wrap.

[kwhauck]

what is an intercooler?

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/matty527/son_i_am_disappoint.jpg

[xXManwhoreXx]

what is an intercooler?

Do you seriously not know how to google. Try it next time before you have other people waste their time explaining basic things to you.

[Alerojester]

what is an intercooler?

are you serious:wtf2:

he's turbo'd an intercooler is something that cools down the charge air from the turbo to the air intake

[xXManwhoreXx]

IBFT Whats a turbo

[kwhauck]

Do you seriously not know how to google. Try it next time before you have other people waste their time explaining basic things to you.


What's google?

[[ion] C2]

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[jhubbz]

hahaha i cant stop laughing at that cat

[XanderWiFi]

Do you seriously not know how to google. Try it next time before you have other people waste their time explaining basic things to you.

Before you worry so much about wasting your time: I didn't make you respond to the question-so you have no one to blame but yourself.

While we are on the topic of wasting time. Why don't you stop wasting my time. Because the vast majority of your comments on here are worthless like this one, or completely wrong since I have seen again and again someone with more experience tell you that you don't know jack. The only difference between you and me in that regard is that I know I don't know jack and don't try to act like I do. I'll take jabbing from kwhauck or ion because they offer correct and insightful advice, and they jab in a humorous or playful manner that still gets the point across and not looking like a douche bag.

I am a medical professional, not a mechanic. And last I knew this was a car forum for sharing ideas and information so there is nothing wrong with the question.

Everyone was a noob at one point, and I can see you bringing down the new guys that come into the fold that know nothing but were hoping to learn. Way to inspire a sense of community. Maybe with less nimrods like you there would be better turn outs to the shows. Because if I was new, and dealt with an attitude like yours (without knowing that no one really cared what you thought ahead of time) I wouldn't stick around.

So have fun with it guys. And hopefully the next time you're in the hospital someone can treat you like a dumbass for not knowing the specifics of your condition because it isn't your primary realm of expertise.

I'll step off the soap box now. And apologies for hijacking the thread. I won't make any more mention of the subject and thank god for the ignore button.

[Ttop191]

/rant http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/images/smilies/dunno.gif

[Redog]

Dude wants to hook up his car, we were all there at the same time.

ManWhore, that was last week for you :lol:

[Lucalare]

I'm with Xander, it's an honest enough question to ask, and how was he to know it's a an easy find on google, I've been able to find several answers on this forum much faster than trying to flit around on google.

As to your question, a turbo compresses air in the intake quite a bit, which causes it to be quite hot (I think upwards of 200F). Of course, engines dislike hot air, so you add an intercooler, which is basically a second radiator your pressurized intake air runs through, so it cools it down to around the ambient air temperature. That colder air can then give you more power, and not damage your engine the way hot air will.

Sorry if I overexplained, I'm not trying to talk down to you, but I wanted to cover all the bases.

[XanderWiFi]

Not one bit, I appreciate the thorough explanation and the understanding.

Google is great. But if I were to google that I wonder how many sites I would have to sift through that were trying to sell intercoolers rather than explain their purpose. Information is out there, just hard to acquire sometimes.

[xXManwhoreXx]

Bahahaha sorry if I don't think body kits are cool. And I'm sorry if you want to be spoonfed information that you could easily look up in a faster amount of time than waiting on people to respond on here. Yea stuff I said when i was 16 was incorrect. But after going to school to build highpro engines and spending countless hours reading about advanced engine theory the last thing you can say to me is that I don't know what i'm talking about. I'm not on here to make friends even though I have. If your feelings are this easily hurt I'm sorry to say it but... Welcome to the Internet...

And fFfffuuuu red. :lol:

[XanderWiFi]

If you're done thumping your chest-you don't have to make friends but you could try to be cordial. Or you could just shut up. It is the adult thing to do afterall whenever you want to catch up with the rest of us.

[FlyingSpoon]

If you're done thumping your chest-you don't have to make friends but you could try to be cordial. Or you could just shut up. It is the adult thing to do afterall whenever you want to catch up with the rest of us.

What does cordial mean?

[XanderWiFi]

google it : P

Just messing. It means to be polite, friendly or respectful.

Unless you're just asking as a backhanded slap at me?

[FlyingSpoon]

^I was just trolling^

[XanderWiFi]

hahaha

[cherrington17]

^I was just trolling^

whats trolling mean?

[XanderWiFi]

being a prick on the internet.

[cherrington17]

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:p

[[ion] C2]

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[AleroB888]

C2;569791']Feel my charge piping tubing. All aluminum. The turbocharger side is hot, after going through an aluminum intercooler, the engine side that goes into the engine is cold. Air intake temperatures are always ambient.

Heat wrapping the intake or using all silicone is not going to make any noticeable difference whatsoever...

I must add that you should not wrap the tubing from turbo to intercooler, since the tubing will actually help to dissipate some heat at that point. If it weren't so heavy, I'd even try copper pipe in that section. Also, silicone hose can collapse under vacuum, even if it's between the filter and blower/turbo inlet.

[hok666]

C2;569791']Feel my charge piping tubing. All aluminum. The turbocharger side is hot, after going through an aluminum intercooler, the engine side that goes into the engine is cold. Air intake temperatures are always ambient.

Heat wrapping the intake or using all silicone is not going to make any noticeable difference whatsoever...


very true, I used header wrap on my wai and nothing to gain from doing it just practice in wrapping technique...

[xXManwhoreXx]

wrapping your air filter in saran wrap has been proven to add HP

[Lucalare]

wrapping your air filter in saran wrap has been proven to add HP

no wonder everyone disregards your comments on this site.

[Ttop191]

perfect pic for manwhore...http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/news/technology/sarcasm.jpg

[xXManwhoreXx]

People who actually know cars and engine theory don't disregard my comments. Just people who get butthurt as easily as you.



House rep!

[radomirthegreat]

I stopped getting email notifications of replies. Wow, this took a horrible turn.

First, the tubing I'm suggesting I am already using, but I have only the 4" version. This is not dryer ducting because it's smooth as hard plastic on the inside, and the way that it's designed lets it bend so that air continues flowing smoothly. It does not heat up and is better at maintaining a general temperature than plastic.

Second, wrapping an air intake in header wrap may keep heat in. Also, you'd have to buy aluminum piping and header wrap, and that may be the same price as this double-ply silicone tubing. For those who have aluminum piping or an intake already, this isn't much of a point, but I did start the thread trying to get people with either a stock intake or a bad one to replace their tubing with some good stuff.

Third, if you're running boost, don't buy silicone tubing. Aluminum pipes have already been proven to work and to bring in ambient temp air after an intercooler.