Why Dont U 2.2's Get This

[Pimpalero03]

205 hp and 200 lbs torque.. nice car

http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/a_img_redlineion10.jpg

http://www.saturn.com/saturn/images/a_img_redlineion6.jpg

[bdyman]

well i would rather drive a all steel car and have a decent sized piece of metal protecting me than a satrun that is all plastic except the hood and roof and deck lid and the door i beams are paper thin
no thank`s i will pass
and i would rather have a turbo on my ecotec

[Oldsman]

i would rather have my tongue nail to a 2x4 than that POS, M&*%^% F&%*&%&( C$%^ S7cking poor excuse of a car.

[ShortysTRM]

well, it's a GM FWD just like any other, only it has some plastic body panels. Our cars are just as big of POS's. The big difference: Saturn is still in business. Oh yeah, and that car would whip a stock alero's ass.

[Crolero]

Hmmmmmm, a saturn with that much hp cant be safe. Its liable to fall apart or all that plastic would just buckel under speeds of +60MPH. Just my $0.02.

[Grouch]

Is it just me or does the ass end (wing, trunk lines, tail lights) and the lower sides of that thing look like a Celica?

[Crolero]

^^^^ Same thing i was thinking :thumbsup:

[FormulaNERD]

wow, you guys sure are bitter, maybe it's because GM dumped Olds to put the money into saturn?

[n8tureboy]

Here's one for ya, they tried selling saturn's up here in labrador. Sure dent proof plastic is great for normal conditions, but up here where the avrage temp in the winter is about -30C they are not shatter proof.... :thumbsup:

Nice engine though... I don't doubt in a few years someone will try putting one of those in an Alero..

[Pimpalero03]

i was talking bout that supercharger

[FormulaNERD]

yea, it's sweet.... cant wait till they decide to slap s/c on the new 2.4 eco.... maybe then i'll buy a redline.

[alerosmoke]

cute car for a high school chick.

[mfuller]

The motor's good, as are the two front seats (Recaros!) and the wheels (forged aluminum), but I'll pass on everything else.

[havik]

Originally posted by n8tureboy@Aug 12 2004, 06:19 AM
Nice engine though... I don't doubt in a few years someone will try putting one of those in an Alero..
That's about the only thing I'd consider.

[NoSweat83]

Nice motor but its a saturn and you know what I think you know what I think of saturn.

[BLK03GXS]

i would much rather wait for the Colbalt (cavaqueer replacement... )
Or for the GMPP supercharger kit that should be coming out for the ecotec :thumbsup: :D

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by NoSweat83@Aug 12 2004, 03:12 PM
Nice motor but its a saturn and you know what I think you know what I think of saturn.
hmmm, had to read this a few times to understand it. lol

[MikeSS]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Aug 12 2004, 08:39 AM
yea, it's sweet.... cant wait till they decide to slap s/c on the new 2.4 eco.... maybe then i'll buy a redline.
Probably won't happen cause the side walls in the chamber would be to thin to deal with heat cause by the supercharger. That is why GM uses a 2.0L Ecotec which is based on the same block as the 2.2L. We all know how much GM likes to save money, so they would have put the supercharger on the 2.2L to save money if it would be reliable enough for a production car.

[Final-Reality]

GM is going to be de-stroking the 2.4L down to 2.2L and supercharging it. Then they're going to put it in the Pontiac Solstice. Production ECOTECs have a relatively long stroke compared to their bore (94.6mm stroke/86mm bore for the 2.2L, 98mm stroke/88mm bore for the 2.4L), so de-stroking it makes it more reliable while under boost, something GM needs to do for a relatively high-volume production engine.

Also, the Redline isnt a bad car, stop knocking the stupid panels, there's still a steel "exoskeleton" underneath said panels, and the corvette uses the same material for it's body, so quit with your obvious bias against the car. (Note: I hate the interior with its central-mounted guages, don't get me wrong.) Personally I'd wait for the (supposedly) lighter, faster, better looking and nicer interior'd Chevy Cobalt SS/SC.

[bdyman]

Also, the Redline isnt a bad car, stop knocking the stupid panels, there's still a steel "exoskeleton"

lol!! oh really!!! well it`s obviuos you haven`t fixed allot of sturn`s then have ya
paper thin you can take your hand and push the inner 1/4 and the I-beams in the doors with your hands and watch them move like coke cans
ever see a saturn after a 15 mph rear end hit??? or for that matter a side impact??? pos!!! my tool box has stronger steel on it than a saturn lol POS!!!! SATURN!!!!

[Steve03TropicTeal]

i really doubt the world's largest car maker would put out an unsafe car..

just doesnt make sense...

[bdyman]

dude trust me!!
the saturn has some very very weak metal behind those abs plastic panels
i know i have fixed many of them

[theirishgonzo]

well i am picking up one of thoes Solstice when it comes out and have the dealer put on a super charger to get the factory warentee. 230-250 hp that will be sweet

[MikeSS]

Originally posted by Steve03TropicTeal@Aug 13 2004, 12:52 PM
i really doubt the world's largest car maker would put out an unsafe car..

just doesnt make sense...
Have you seen the crash rating on a Cavalier/Sunfire, or the Astro/Safari? I owned both, realized how unsafe they were after I got them.