hid hotspots

[sleepyalero]

Anyone else have this problem? These are new headlights.. tried adjusting em and can't get rid of the hotspots. Ill get a better picture here soon to show u better but any ideas on how to get rid of it?

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/IMG_20110113_180728.jpg

Notice the left is there the right has one too but i have it aimed higher. Here in a bit ill take a picture when on the road.

[[ion] C2]

HIDs are intended to be used with projectors, not halogen reflecting housings.

[sleepyalero]

Yeah true. But some trucks and cars I've seen with hids without projectors don't have the problem but... every car is different. I just want to know if anyone else on here has that with there hids without projectors

[falloutboy]

newer seen such a hotspot in pics from HID kits in halogene housings.

Have you tried a halogene bulb? Hotspot too? --> housing defective.

It may sound stupid but did u try to rotate or wiggle at the HID bulb, perhaps its not completely seated or centered.

[alero_bmxer]

Yeah true. But some trucks and cars I've seen with hids without projectors don't have the problem but... every car is different. I just want to know if anyone else on here has that with there hids without projectors

cars that have HID's stock have different shields in the housing to reduce this and glare.

[sleepyalero]

No spots with halogen. Ill have to try the wiggle of bulb but I'm sure its right cause I had this problem on the other set of headlights I had too.

Bmxer I mean people Who put hid kits on there cars don't have it
You have hids does yours show hotspots at night?

[sleepyalero]

Don't know if u can see it I can but, in person it looks alot worse then in the pic (cell phone pic)

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/IMG_20110113_185503.jpg

[widbyj]

Typical of HIDs in Halogen reflectors. This is what projectors/lenses are for!

[robalero]

your gonna get it in the alero, the headlight is too small you get one with a larger area of reflection and its not as bad and very little.

halogens actually do the same their just not as bright so you don't notice it as much

[jawa]

wonder if one could retrofit a different reflector into the stock housing

[cherrington17]

My HIDs are like that. Its alot more light than the housing was intended for...

[Lucalare]

I have Wagner true views and there is a small hotspot. They look like about 8K HIDs but are easier to install, and they don't look as bad without projectors.

[cherrington17]

I have Wagner true views and there is a small hotspot. They look like about 8K HIDs but are easier to install, and they don't look as bad without projectors.

those aren't HID....

[strtrydr]

I haven't noticed any hotspots on my HIDs ... although i have never had them pointed at a wall to check it out.

Just my .02

[Lucalare]

I have Wagner true views and there is a small hotspot. They look like about 8KHIDs but are easier to install, and they don't look as bad without projectors.

those aren't HID....

Not trying to be a rooster, but you kind of misrepresented what I said. No they aren't HIDs, but if you don't open up the headlight and look, you can't tell they aren't. and come to think of it they probably look more like 6ks.

[sleepyalero]

yeah only if i could figure out how to put some projectors in the headlights....

dont mean to subject change here. but im looking at TSX projectors. thinking about getting some... couple questions..

1. are projectors adjustable?
2. do i have to order new hid bulbs so they will fit in the projector? (i dont think 9006 will fit in TSX projectors right?)
3. shouldnt be to hard to retrofit em in the oem headlight assembly right? ;) i mean i do have to pairs of headlights laying around that i can mess around with trying to put projectors in them.

[robalero]

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=227

this would be your best bet plus you would have hi and low apperently its the smallest set of projectors they sell so its very very minimal cutting is needed

[cherrington17]

Not trying to be a rooster, but you kind of misrepresented what I said. No they aren't HIDs, but if you don't open up the headlight and look, you can't tell they aren't. and come to think of it they probably look more like 6ks.

I didn't mean that to entirely discredit what your saying...

I meant that as saying "HIDs are ALOT brighter than halogen" which is what those are. Yes, they are brighter than stock, but not tremendously brighter.

...and I think the overall increased brightness of HIDs is what our housing cannot handle. Halogens have less light, spread out a little more. HID bulbs have tons of light, slightly more centrally located.

[Lucalare]

Well, on my old pickup I didn't see a huge difference over stock, but on the Alero there was no comparison. The lows look slightly whiter than stock but not much difference. When I switch to highs it's a super-white, light up the entire road difference.

[sleepyalero]

But can you put 9006 bulbs in the tsx projectors or the ones rob posted with a link?

[cherrington17]

NO. projectors use D2S bulbs. (or is is DS2? I never remember)

[sleepyalero]

Its D2S lol. Okay I'm thinking of retrofitting tsx with d2s bulbs. Reccomend different projector? Think I can fit em?

[sleepyalero]

Specs on tsx projectors are...

Depth: 5.7 in
Height: 3.15 in
Width: 4.52 in
Lens diameter: 2.5 in

[falloutboy]

In here, there were some attempts made to retrofit projectors - especially the TSX. But they all ended up being a one thing only.

But to be honest it'll be the only way to get a really got beam / cut off line and the most out of the hid bulbs. And assumed u use the correct type of projector you'll end up with having high and low beam in one projector. But this also makes its more complicated to wire (the solenoid for the shield has to be wired with the high beam harness)

to see how difficult it can get to get a small projector in a 7 inch housing can be seen here, if you want it to look and function good.

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and to answer your other question, yes projectors can be aimed like our normal headlight. In fact, here in Germany, they have to automatically aim them self. nd they need to have their own washer nozzles so the dirt doesnt destroy the cut off line, hence glaring oncoming traffic.

If you wanna now more about it, and how it works than search the forum there have been some pretty good threads about it.

Cheers
Julian

[robalero]

the one I posted up also has the wireing harness to make your hi-low work ( just simple plug and play harness ) and you can also change your bulbs to d2s ones or use the h1 bulbs that come with that kit from that site ( ull have to buy a complete kit again is what their saying ) when I have the cash im going to call them up and ask if I can skip on the ballast as I would rather use my 55 watt one then use their 35 watt ballast and see if I can save cash that way too

[falloutboy]

the one I posted up .....

Could u give me the link?

[cherrington17]

the one I posted up also has the wireing harness to make your hi-low work ( just simple plug and play harness ) and you can also change your bulbs to d2s ones or use the h1 bulbs that come with that kit from that site ( ull have to buy a complete kit again is what their saying ) when I have the cash im going to call them up and ask if I can skip on the ballast as I would rather use my 55 watt one then use their 35 watt ballast and see if I can save cash that way too

HIDs require a ballast. Using a non-ballast halogen with projectors is a waste. Plus... you can't equate a 35w halogen to 35W HID. Or even 35W HID to 55W halogen... its all different.

yet if you want to compare lux production... even 55W halogen is behind 35W HID.

[robalero]

its on the first page my link.

and cherry you might want to reread ( MY BALLAST ) aka I already own a HID kit

[sleepyalero]

In here, there were some attempts made to retrofit projectors - especially the TSX. But they all ended up being a one thing only.

But to be honest it'll be the only way to get a really got beam / cut off line and the most out of the hid bulbs. And assumed u use the correct type of projector you'll end up with having high and low beam in one projector. But this also makes its more complicated to wire (the solenoid for the shield has to be wired with the high beam harness)

to see how difficult it can get to get a small projector in a 7 inch housing can be seen here, if you want it to look and function good.

------

and to answer your other question, yes projectors can be aimed like our normal headlight. In fact, here in Germany, they have to automatically aim them self. nd they need to have their own washer nozzles so the dirt doesnt destroy the cut off line, hence glaring oncoming traffic.

If you wanna now more about it, and how it works than search the forum there have been some pretty good threads about it.

Cheers
Julian

Is there supposed to be a link for the see how hard to fit projector in 7 inch housing?

And if I buy projectors I'm going to finish the project no point to waste money on em and not get it done.

I'm just going for low beams I don't use high beams at all.