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BlueLego
01-25-2011, 10:48 PM
so i am in the market for some new wheels. preety sure i'm going to go with some 17's.
i love the way cars look with a drop and some hella flush wheels to the fenders. i'm not too educated on rim sizes here so i was wondering if anyone would know the the rim size i should get for 17 in diameter and then just flush enough to go inside the wheel wells. like width wise? if you know what i mean by that?
my alero is dropped enough to where the wheels are just evenwith where the wheel wells start.

kwhauck
01-26-2011, 11:39 AM
Hella flush = hella gay

but if you must a 17x8 in the front with probably a goofy ass 205 stretched will work....the rears will probably need closer to a 17x9, or you can use spacers to put out the 17x8 to exactly the right amount.....

Ttop191
01-26-2011, 12:25 PM
hella flush is retarded...say good bye to drive-ability, and also all the cash in your wallet because you will be replacing tires every month... flush looks good...hellaflush is dumb.

riceburner2006
01-26-2011, 02:13 PM
not to mention u suspension will hate u too...

FrankTheTank
01-26-2011, 02:17 PM
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BlueLego
01-26-2011, 05:33 PM
i'm not doing the hella flush with negative camber, i'll have correct camber angles but i want a really flush look. / <--my tires will not be in any way like that.

Ttop191
01-26-2011, 06:07 PM
so like i said...flush not hellaflush

Malibu369258
01-26-2011, 06:29 PM
The flush I think you are talking about is what I'm working on for my Miata right now. You just have to get the right offset and rim width to make it look good. You'd need to be lowered some too, otherwise you'll have some mad wheel gap...

Ttop191
01-26-2011, 07:19 PM
flush:
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6214/vip1d.jpg

hellaflush:
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9001/hellaf.jpg

BlueLego
01-26-2011, 07:32 PM
yes ttop then i am talking about flush. hella flush is retarded. i always thought hella flush just meant it was a crazy tuck, not negative camber and a tuck lol

Ttop191
01-26-2011, 07:39 PM
tuck is totally different too......

tuck:
http://image.automotive.com/f/features/10740141+pheader/0810tr_01_z+1956_ford_f100_custom_truck+left_front _angle.jpg

Malibu369258
01-26-2011, 07:45 PM
This is what I'm shooting for with my Miata, although this is a NB instead of a NA generation.

http://www.steveandlee.com/galleries/miata/slips_fitment.jpg

Ttop191
01-26-2011, 07:49 PM
see miata's are funny because the sides of the wheel well are in so much farther than the top...but i guess you would call that flush if using the top of the fender as reference


but poke if referencing from the sides :p

kwhauck
01-26-2011, 07:59 PM
It can be done and not look extremely stupid.....

Here is a local guy James...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8146677@N02/sets/72157624249238962/

kwhauck
01-26-2011, 08:00 PM
see miata's are funny because the sides of the wheel well are in so much farther than the top...

The alero's are just like this in case you didn't notice.....:lol:

BlueLego
01-26-2011, 10:30 PM
that is a good looking beamer. but see theres nbot a whgole lot of camber going on there. so it doesn't look rediculous lol

kwhauck
01-27-2011, 08:32 AM
that is a good looking beamer. but see theres nbot a whgole lot of camber going on there. so it doesn't look rediculous lol

yeah it is a lot better and still nice too, because he is starting to get some national coverage from some of the smaller magazines like eurowerks and some other stance? magazine........

kwhauck
01-27-2011, 03:05 PM
Flush? You want your wheels like mine...:scpimp:

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4993/2281/24981140042_large.jpg

You can't get any better.....

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4993/2281/24981140043_large.jpg

FrankTheTank
01-27-2011, 03:35 PM
hard to tell they are flush since the car sits so high.

kwhauck
01-27-2011, 03:40 PM
hard to tell they are flush since the car sits so high.

Just follow the line in the second pic, it's flush. But yes the coilovers were all the way up for installation of the 5-speed. It isn't like that anymore......

03Sleepr
01-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Flush? You want your wheels like mine...:scpimp:

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4993/2281/24981140042_large.jpg

You can't get any better.....

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/2/4993/2281/24981140043_large.jpg

I like those rims a lot, but the brown on your tires is nasty lol

kwhauck
01-27-2011, 04:07 PM
I like those rims a lot, but the brown on your tires is nasty lol

Whaaa? Are you just talking that they aren't shiny?

oh and thanx! I like them too!! Nice and light!! and forged......

03Sleepr
01-27-2011, 04:09 PM
Whaaa? Are you just talking that they aren't shiny?

oh and thanx! I like them too!! Nice and light!! and forged......

no, I'm just talking about the slight tint of brown on your sidewall

BlueLego
01-27-2011, 04:10 PM
yaaa except my car is wayyyyy lower than that haha. throwing a nice set of rims on it now would make it flush. and you have coil overs? adjustables?

kwhauck
01-27-2011, 04:12 PM
no, I'm just talking about the slight tint of brown on your sidewall

Oh probably just dirty. Got them from a warehouse as dealer takeoffs. And these pictures were during the middle of the 5 speed swap so just really dirty......

kwhauck
01-27-2011, 04:15 PM
yaaa except my car is wayyyyy lower than that haha. throwing a nice set of rims on it now would make it flush. and you have coil overs? adjustables?


Yes double adjustable coilovers with koni inserts.

FrankTheTank
01-27-2011, 04:22 PM
prolly does look pretty good a lot lower. throw one of those pics so we can get a better idea of how it looks.

kwhauck
01-27-2011, 04:23 PM
prolly does look pretty good a lot lower. throw one of those pics so we can get a better idea of how it looks.

no pics, maybe this weekend......

guiguilandry
01-27-2011, 08:57 PM
to follow your pictures kwhauck here are some with my coilovers set low but the wheels are 19x8.5 34mm offset with 255/30zr19 and 1/4 in spacer in the back... I only have 1 degree of camber with almost 3,5 in drop

BlueLego
01-28-2011, 07:59 PM
dammm that looks nice!!! ^^ what are you using for suspension?!
and for using 17's would i get some 17x8.5???
do you guys think 17's are too small for my car?
i had some 18's and they just seem way too big.

Lucalare
01-28-2011, 08:07 PM
17 is a good size for the Alero, not big enough to be gaudy(unless it's all chrome), but not small enough to have a ton of rubber showing.

guiguilandry
01-28-2011, 10:51 PM
I got some custom coilovers made by selexsuspension... but I wanted to give you some details about how to get the flush look like wheel offset and wideness... at least my setup... and 19's aren't too big.. in my opinion, i was even thinking about 20's... but it's all about personnal taste....

pimpalero2003
01-28-2011, 11:51 PM
Yeah my car was deff lower then that with stocks! Ur maybe 2.5-2.75 I was right at 3.5-3.76

kwhauck
01-29-2011, 10:04 AM
dammm that looks nice!!! ^^ what are you using for suspension?!
and for using 17's would i get some 17x8.5???
do you guys think 17's are too small for my car?
i had some 18's and they just seem way too big.

It is not about width along, but width and offset combined. Theoretically you could run a 17x4 skinny and be flush if you could find the right offset.

I run 17x8 with a 32 offset, compared to an 8.5 width with a 34 offset, the difference in outside placement is 4mm, which is like 1/8". Really not a big deal, the biggest difference is that his tires are probably straight with his rims whereas mine might be bulged just a bit.

An 8in rim with a 30-35mm offset should be should be good, or an 8.5 with a 32-37 offset. Somewhere in there.

Not sure about stock suspension and inner tire clearance. You must remember that both of us are on custom coilovers.

BlueLego
01-29-2011, 12:36 PM
yaaa that's what i was ganna say, because on my car i was thinking my 18's were too big but i see 19's on yours and it looks amazing. i'm probably going to stick with some 17's though. and then i want about 3 or 3 1/2 inches of dish to my rims. what would you guys recomend for that?? dang i love this site!! hahaha

BlueLego
01-29-2011, 12:37 PM
and also is there a way you guys would recommend for me to get some custom coilovers?

mfuller
01-29-2011, 01:26 PM
and also is there a way you guys would recommend for me to get some custom coilovers?
Guigiulandry got his from Selex Suspension in Canada.
When I had mine I had them fabricated by Truechoice Motorsports in OH.
To be done right, they aren't cheap.

guiguilandry
01-29-2011, 11:23 PM
in the average of 1500$ for my basic dual piston nitrogen self-adjusting revalved shock with tein springs, but the shock stiffness isn't adjustable, the height is adjustable. but really they did a perfect job it's not too stiff and i got just enough travel not to rub unless i hit some big bumps... still need to roll the rear fender..... i installed those wheels also on the stock shock with eibach springs no problem in the front but close (2mm) but like I said i needed a 1/4 spacer in the back that i kept afterward to keep the flush look