performance

[BlueLego]

alright so i'm getting bored with my alero. next things i do are going to cost big bucks. so in the mean time i want to know what is everyones favorite mods to do to the ecotec engine?
and also what are your favorite mods for suspension and bracing and also body and interior mods?
i could use the search button but i'd rather get it all in one thread.
any input is great! thanks

[JLw7123]

kyb struts, H&R springs

[BlueLego]

how low of a drop do the H&R's give you? i need this thing slammed pretty low. i don't want to go any higher than i am now.

[kwhauck]

what are you on now? cut springs.....

[BlueLego]

nooo i'm on sprints that the previous owner heated to drop it more. doesn't ride to well. lol

[kwhauck]

nooo i'm on sprints that the previous owner heated to drop it more. doesn't ride to well. lol

well that is what you are gonna get, for springs you can either have some decent performance springs or a really craptastic ride and sit super low.

your best bet is probably to go on air, but you don't seem like the type to drop that kind of money.......

[Chris2000]

Just buy my car.

[kwhauck]

Just buy my car.

can we keep this relevant please?

[heineck]

what do u have now? i had an intake, header and exhaust. was decent but nothing great. u can also get the 2.4 eco intake mani swap kit. after that its big bucks. headwork and such

[BlueLego]

or i could go on custom coilovers. but money is tight right now and between family. and bills i can't drop alot of money on my car. thank you very much.
and i'm just going to build a custom mani for my eco or do the hahn intake mani

[kwhauck]

custom coilovers are built for performance, not for drop......

[03Sleepr]

so, you don't want to spend a lot of money..but you want to go low..so you want custom coilovers? instead of bags? ANND, you want to turbo...but your car eats oil. K, congrats, you confused me so much that I don't remember where I am..

[Redog]

If the car eats oil, why don't you fix that FIRST! :rolleyes2:

You could spend $500 and your car will run, or $1000 and it will be the best looking car in the junkyard

[BlueLego]

but coilovers can also make your car low with the right adjustments. at least i think? correct me if i'm wrong i'm no expert.
i already have a turbo. but not a built motor or a programable ecu. so i'm waiting until i can buy a new motor and build the shit out of it.
ANNND i fixed the oil problem with the new valve cover.
do you guys always just make assumptions because other peoples alero's aaren't as nice as yours? dammn

[kwhauck]

yes they can, but that is NOT what they were built for.....

[99-alero]

.....are you high?

[kwhauck]

.....are you high?

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/1/31/128779339836102925.jpg

[99-alero]

lol if i was askin u, the one making sense in all this then id be high

[heineck]

...
i already have a turbo. but not a built motor or a programable ecu. so i'm waiting until i can buy a new motor and build the shit out of it.


:thumb:

[widbyj]

but coilovers can also make your car low with the right adjustments. at least i think? correct me if i'm wrong i'm no expert.

do you guys always just make assumptions because other peoples alero's aaren't as nice as yours? dammn

Get edumacated! You can either lower for looks OR performance, not both! Looks=air-bags, Performance=real suspension tuning... do some more research.

I dob't have an Alero and I know that you don't know enough yet to even ask the proper questions... Most replies around here tend to be passive/agressive, get used to it. OKTHXGBY

[Redog]

but coilovers can also make your car low with the right adjustments. at least i think? correct me if i'm wrong i'm no expert.
i already have a turbo. but not a built motor or a programable ecu. so i'm waiting until i can buy a new motor and build the shit out of it.
ANNND i fixed the oil problem with the new valve cover.
do you guys always just make assumptions because other peoples alero's aaren't as nice as yours? dammn

People do coilovers, not for looks or to be low, but for autocrossing. They are very stiff and the lower you go, the more stiff they get, but again, they are for the autocross and will give you the "rice bounce"

Smart building a motor for the turbo. You can probably get a used block for dirt cheap. Your going to have to have it machined anyway. I got my bottom end for $100. 160,000 miles on it and ready for the rebuild, once I gather all parts :D

You asked for ideas and options. I gave you mine, no need to get bent outta shape over it. Sorry I missed the tread you posted about the "eating" oil getting fixed by fixing a leaking valve cover

[kwhauck]

They are very stiff and the lower you go, the more stiff they get, but again, they are for the autocross and will give you the "rice bounce"


You will not get the bounce if they are properly built and set up in the car like they are designed to be....

[BlackJack]

This isn't criticism I'm about to lay on you, it's reality, and hopefully in a constructive manner.

All that above is correct and true. You want looks, bag it. You want true handling performance, properly adjusted coil-overs, bushings, proper stabilizer/sway bars, and strut braces. None of it is cheap when done right.

Performance- Eco's are turbo-friendly, as long as they aren't thrashed before you get started. If it were me, I'd look into dropping in a SS-T with matching computer, boost controller, exhaust, and call it a day.

Money- always do the parts research to decide what needs to go into your build. Then add 150% to get closer to a real dollar figure. This is because we pick and choose what needs to go into it, but always forget about incidentals like that extra fabrication work, or those other parts that weren't mentioned to make things fit correctly, etc.

I'm all for seeing you do some cool stuff with your car, but stop spending on nickel-and-dime stuff like interior paint and seat covers just because that's what you can afford at the time, and start putting your money back for the mods you want to go for in the long run. If you keep wasting it just because you have a little and can buy something now, you'll never save up to get to your goal.

Good luck.

[BlueLego]

widbyj, you missed the part where i said i don't know about it.
not everyone is a crazy genious with these cars, hense why they join the forum so they can ask questions and what not. so for the inconvenience to you for asking the questions and trying to get info.
as to all others thank you for giving me more info on all this.
i'm trying to get a mix of both on my suspension, between looks and performance. i go down to sandia speedway out here alot and watch all the drifters and occasionally my friends let me try it out in there drift cars. (AE86, s13, 240sx)
and with them the lower they go the better and it looks great. now i don't know if it's the same with the alero but alot of the track cars i've seen are pretty effing low and perform great. i want it mostly for performance but getting the looks is also a great additive to that. correct me if i'm wrong on being low and everything. just all the track cars i've seen had a pretty damn low drop to them. once again, i am no genious with this stuff. don't get the wrong impression.

[BlueLego]

and to add on to that, i will be fabbing up my own front and rear strut tower braces and also some unibody bracing and subframe bracing.
i have a great arc wleder over here along with a plasma cutter for some nice clean cuts. i will keep you all posted on that and hopefully give out some good idea's to other people

[BoarderTy]

do you guys always just make assumptions because other peoples alero's aaren't as nice as yours? dammn

Yes, they do.

[Redog]

This isn't criticism I'm about to lay on you, it's reality, and hopefully in a constructive manner.

All that above is correct and true. You want looks, bag it. You want true handling performance, properly adjusted coil-overs, bushings, proper stabilizer/sway bars, and strut braces. None of it is cheap when done right.

Performance- Eco's are turbo-friendly, as long as they aren't thrashed before you get started. If it were me, I'd look into dropping in a SS-T with matching computer, boost controller, exhaust, and call it a day.

Money- always do the parts research to decide what needs to go into your build. Then add 150% to get closer to a real dollar figure. This is because we pick and choose what needs to go into it, but always forget about incidentals like that extra fabrication work, or those other parts that weren't mentioned to make things fit correctly, etc.

I'm all for seeing you do some cool stuff with your car, but stop spending on nickel-and-dime stuff like interior paint and seat covers just because that's what you can afford at the time, and start putting your money back for the mods you want to go for in the long run. If you keep wasting it just because you have a little and can buy something now, you'll never save up to get to your goal.

Good luck.

QFT.

If somebody would have said this to me 8 to 10 years ago, I'd have my built motor in the Alero right now :rolleyes2:

[heineck]

well at least he's admitting he doesnt know what hes getting into. unlike past member who wont be named. but dont confuse an alero with a drift car. dude, its just not gunna happen.

[BlackJack]

^^ yup

Here's a key formula if you like math:

(FWD) x (hand + BRAKE) < > DR/FT

It never has, it never will.

However, AutoX is another story. We have quite a successful few that are doing pretty well with it.

[BlueLego]

yes i know they are not drift cars, i was just making a comparison hahaha.

[BlackJack]

by the way, if that's your Alero in your avatar, I'm kinda digging the blue/green scheme you got going on.

[BlueLego]

thanks dude! sadly they are no longer green but i want to pick up a set or green rota's. i think that will look pretty nice.
also all my caps (oil cap, coolant cap,etc) are the same color green along with the fuse box cover, battery tray and fan housings. pretty happy with how it turned out haha

[Ttop191]

thanks dude! sadly they are no longer green but i want to pick up a set or green rota's. i think that will look pretty nice.
also all my caps (oil cap, coolant cap,etc) are the same color green along with the fuse box cover, battery tray and fan housings. pretty happy with how it turned out haha

OOH SHIT!!!! Billie the II

[BlackJack]

aw damn, and this was going good for a second.

[Ttop191]

:coolio: