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BoarderTy
05-05-2011, 12:05 AM
Umm just outta curiousity...whats the bar that pops up after the sunroof slides back? is it neccesary to have??

First pic, driver side of bar of sunroof with plastic peice to stop the bar from being ripped back with the wind.



Second pic, passenger side of that plastice peice broke off..anyone kno how i can reattach it? after you hit 60mph with sunroof open the bar shakes and its annoying.



Third Pic. Why the hell is there velcro in the middle of the bar. anyone else have this?

sleepyalero
05-05-2011, 12:47 AM
i have the little clip on the driver side missing too! and does shake in the wind... depending on how much wind there is and stuff..... i could use some help on this too. :p

and i have the velcro too idk what its for... but doesnt bother me.

BoarderTy
05-05-2011, 12:49 AM
i wonder if its really neccesary to have? i was thinking of just taking some wire cutters and clipping it off...idk tho.

sleepyalero
05-05-2011, 01:17 AM
pretty sure it is lol idk though.. wonder if u can get just a new clip.

BoarderTy
05-05-2011, 01:34 AM
pretty sure it is lol idk though.. wonder if u can get just a new clip.

i dont think you can buy a new clip..i stil have my old one that broke off. You wanna know how many damn times i tried to super glue that thing back in...idk either but it works but then breaks off again a week later.

sleepyalero
05-05-2011, 01:51 AM
yeah idk where mine went...... :banghead:

Lucalare
05-05-2011, 10:22 AM
Try some JB weld. Not sure what the bar is for though.

BoarderTy
05-05-2011, 11:21 AM
Try some JB weld. Not sure what the bar is for though.

im thinking its a wind deflector? idk. when the roof is open it pops up and you hear a light wooshing sound, like if you were to stick a pen out the window.

If its pulled down with my fingers it sounds more like a hum? likes its an air pocket or something being created idk.

sleepyalero
05-05-2011, 01:08 PM
Be the test dummy and cut it off to see what happens. ;)

Jroc26
05-05-2011, 02:29 PM
I'm not too sure, thats also not a factory sunroof

sleepyalero
05-05-2011, 02:59 PM
it is a factory sunroof... i have the same exact one in my car.

Jroc26
05-05-2011, 06:07 PM
Trust me thats not a factory sunroof, its aftermarket.

BoarderTy
05-05-2011, 07:05 PM
Umm..it is factory sunroof. the sunroof was an option for the gx in 2000. so it is factory.

adam337
05-05-2011, 07:11 PM
pwned.

JLw7123
05-05-2011, 07:54 PM
Trust me thats not a factory sunroof, its aftermarket.
it is a factory sunroof my 1999 GLS has a one and it came stock

sleepyalero
05-05-2011, 08:03 PM
i have the same thing in my 01 GLS v6.. its FACTORY!! lol.

Jroc26
05-05-2011, 08:32 PM
I never said the alero doesn't come with a factory sunroof I'm saying that one isn't a factory sunroof its a dealer installed or webasto aftermarket one. I have an 01 gls with a factory sunroof and that's not it

Jroc26
05-05-2011, 08:56 PM
Here's a factory sunroof. So adam337... Owned.

sleepyalero
05-05-2011, 10:09 PM
idk....

BoarderTy
05-06-2011, 09:11 AM
Umm. You a newbie. Dont talk to us like we are dumb. sure that might be a factory sunroof for you beacuse yours is newer and you probably have all the top of the line factory stuff in yours (monsoon system, power windows, shiny aluminum rims, all that fun stuff.) mine is a base model (crank windows, no lights on the mirror, manual side mirrors) all the BASIC stuff but a sunroof was an option that the factory handed out and mine got it. so congrats you might be right about your car but not ours. Thanks..Have a nice day.

jawa
05-06-2011, 11:28 AM
epic

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 03:25 PM
Just because I'm a newbie to the site doesn't mean I'm a newbie to cars. I've built cars and done shit you kids could only dream of, my cars just a DD so I maybe a newbie but you're a retard. Check the build sheet for your car I guarantee it won't say you have a sunroof. Do you really think gm would put such cheap shitty looking sunroofs in cars from the factory? And aleros all had the same factory sunroof 99-04 they are the same sunroofs that were in cavaliers and sunfires too. I bet you even have a plastic ring that goes around the sunroof on the outside of the car mounted to the roof.

JLw7123
05-06-2011, 04:32 PM
what great cars have u built. I would like to see them your word means nothing without pictures.

sleepyalero
05-06-2011, 05:30 PM
Got some smack talk up in this thread lol

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 05:31 PM
Not that I have to prove anything to any of you guys...


I have a bunch of other pics and videos that I just gotta find on a dvd somewhere.

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 05:34 PM
Oh and heres my old cavalier with a FACTORY sunroof which just so happens to be the same as the one on my alero.

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 05:38 PM
And heres my new alero...

Fuzzyspudkiss
05-06-2011, 05:55 PM
When did this thread become a thread about Jroc26...

jhubbz
05-06-2011, 06:00 PM
lol this is hilarious. whats with the stang pics? i thought this was a sunroof thread hahaha

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 06:00 PM
When everyone had to have a heart attack when I told buddy that wasn't a factory sunroof so maybe a lot of people on here wouldn't know whats up with his...

Anyways heres my build sheet.


UH8

CLUSTER-COOL TEMP, TACH, TRIP ODOM GA(UH8)


87,462



U1Q

RADIO AM/FM STEREO,SK/SCAN,AUTO REV,MUSIC SRCH CASS CD, CLCK STEREO,AM/FM W/AUTO REV CASSETTE,CD,CLK(U1Q)


29,766



U19

SPEEDOMETER,INSTRUMENT,KILOMETERS PER HOUR KPH SPEEDO(U19)


9,347



U77

ANTENNA RR WINDOW, RADIO RR WDO ANT(U77)


87,462



U85

SPEAKER SYSTEM,8,QUAD FRONT DOOR MOUNTED,SHELF QUAD,AMPLIFIER 8 SPKR SYS(U85)


37,490



VK3

LICENSE PLATE,FRONT MOUNTING PACKAGE FRT LIC PLT MTG PKG(VK3)


85,959



VY7

KNOB,TRANSMISSION CONTROL LEVER,LEATHER LEATHER SHFT KNOB(VY7)


69,702



V73

VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73)


85,979



W33

Unk.

11,567



Y71

HEADLINER PARTS PKG-SUNROOF HDLNR PTS PKG-SUNROOF(Y71)


21,147



Z49

MANDATORY CANADIAN BASE EQUIPMENT MODIFICATIONS(CANADIAN) CANADIAN(Z49)


9,347



1SA

PACKAGE-OPTION 01 (1SA)


57,148



52I

INTERIOR TRIM LIGHT NEUTRAL (52I)


35,472



522

TRIM COMBINATION - LEATHER, NEUTRAL (522)


12,601



6AW

SPRING COMPTR SEL FRT LH SUSP(6AW)


19,442



7AW

SPRING COMPTR SEL FRT RH SUSP(7AW)


19,442



76U

EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY (76U)
EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,DARK BRONZEMIST METALLIC (76U)


6,279



8DY

COMPONENT RR LH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (8DY) SUSP(8DY)


19,344



9DY

COMPONENT RR RH COMPUTER SEL SUSP (9DY) SUSP(9DY)


19,344



AG1

ADJUSTER FRT ST POWER, MULTI-DIRECTIONAL, DRIVER MULTI-DIRECTIONAL PWR D/SEAT ADJR(AG1)


57,415



AK5

RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT,INFLATABLE,DRIVER AND PASSENGER DRIVER & PASS F/SEAT INFL RST SYS(AK5)


85,979



AS5

SEAT,FRONT BUCKET(DELUXE) DELUXE FRT BKT ST(AS5)


85,979



AT8

RESTRAINT PROVISIONS CHILD,REAR SEAT,ANCHORAGE,FLOOR REAR SEAT CHILD RESTRAINT PROVISIONS(AT8)


75,684



AU0

LOCK CONTROL,REMOTE ENTRY(KEYLESS ENTRY SYSTEM) REMOTE ENTRY LK CONT(AU0)


85,830



CF5

ROOF,SUN,GLASS SLIDING,ELECTRIC ELEC SUNROOF(GLASS)(CF5)


21,147



C60

AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60)


87,462



DD9

MIRROR,OUTSIDE,RH AND LH REMOTE CONTROL ELECTRIC,BREAKAWAY(PAINTED) O/S ELEC R/CON PAINTED MIR(DD9)


87,462



DT4

ASH RECEPTACLE AND CIGARETTE LIGHTER ASH TRAY & C/LTR(DT4)


87,455



FE3

SUSPENSION SYSTEM,SPORT SPORT SUSP(FE3)


19,583



FE9

FEDERAL EMISSION CERTIFICATION FED EMIS(FE9)


65,529



F83

RATIO TRANSAXLE FINAL DRIVE 3.05 3.05R(F83)


45,688



IJ2

TRIM INTERIOR DESIGN (J2) INTERIOR TRIM(IJ2)


19,419



JL9

BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC,ANTILOCK FRT & RR DISC ANTILOCK BRK(JL9)


85,979



K05

HEATER,ENGINE BLOCK ENG BLK HTR(K05)


11,308



K62

GENERATOR 105 AMP, DUAL INTERNAL FAN DUAL FAN 105 AMP GEN(K62)


45,688



LAA

PLANT CODE LANSING ASSEMBLY 'C' LINE LANSING,MI 'C' LINE PLANT CODE(LAA)


87,462



LA1

ENGINE GAS, 6 CYL, 3.4L, MFI, HO 3.4E(LA1)


45,688



MN5

TRANSMISSION AUTO 4 SPD, 4T45-E 4-SPD A/TRANS(MN5)


45,688



MX0

TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC,OVERDRIVE(MERCHANDISING OPTION) A/TRANS PROVISIONS(MX0)


86,723



NF7

EMISSION SYSTEM FEDERAL, NLEV FEDERAL EMIS NLEV(NF7)


65,528



NP5

STEERING WHEEL,LEATHER WRAPPED LEATHER WRAPPED STRG WHL(NP5)


69,702



PY0

WHEEL,16 X 6.5,ALUMINUM ALUM WHL(PY0)


11,567



QSK

TIRE ALL P225/50R16 BW R/PE ST TL AL3 91V TIRE(QSK)


18,101



RB1

CONTROL MODULAR I/P CONTROL MODULAR I/P


87,428



R7K

CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 36


10,824



T37

LAMP,FOG(DELUXE) DELUXE FOG LP(T37)


74,356



T43

SPOILER,REAR RR SPLR(T43)


40,881

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 06:01 PM
lol this is hilarious. whats with the stang pics? i thought this was a sunroof thread hahaha


Buddy trying to say what have you built... That was a 4 cylinder base coupe, now its a 347 stroked coupe that runs 11.30 before you hit the nitrous...

sleepyalero
05-06-2011, 06:16 PM
Why a ford? :(

Nevermind im done with this thread jack lol. Anyway..... back to the creator of the thread question.... what is that bar for with the velcro on it? I am tempted to rip it off today.... lol im also missing the little clip like he is

Also jroc I want to see a pic of the sunroof open on the outside of the car up close.. and a pic of the sliding cover for the sun roof... so far all I see that's different is the switches.. they both open the same

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 06:21 PM
Because 3rd gen camaros are crap lol. And they're cheap to build.

Jroc26
05-06-2011, 06:25 PM
The velcro strap is probably to keep the bar from going up too high and flop in the wind but I can't say for sure its kind of a weird design.

Cliff8928
05-07-2011, 01:36 AM
That whole bar is just an air deflector to prevent buffeting. The "Velcro" there is most likely just a padding to prevent a rattle. It's hard to tell by the pics.

Also, I'd have to agree that it's probably an aftermarket sunroof. Could tell for sure by an outside pic of it. Or I could check my 1999 Alero brochure in the basement. I'm pretty sure it was never available on the GX.

sleepyalero
05-07-2011, 03:45 AM
Because 3rd gen camaros are crap lol. And they're cheap to build.

mustangs are retarded expensive... my buddies gf has a mustang gt 99-04 with a full mach 1 swap in it... and he has a LS1 Trans Am, long tube pacesetters.. K&N air filter. Intake lid, SLP LM1, no cats, and a comp cam.. cam for his car was 300-400$... and he is pushing 400hp, we just got it dyno tuned today.

thats with a very old fuel filter.. it was running lean in fuel ratio.. possibly bad fuel pump.. and a completely shot o2 sensor.. and a cam for his gfs stang is 2,000$. thats retarded for a cam... and our other buddy with a true mach 1 has basically the same mods with a 2,000$ cam and the trans am has 20 more hp. AND also has 150k miles... i'll stick with GM.

That whole bar is just an air deflector to prevent buffeting. The "Velcro" there is most likely just a padding to prevent a rattle. It's hard to tell by the pics.

think i can remove that bar? i looked today doesnt run anyway only thing that happens is it raises and lowers when you open/close the sun roof.

Jroc26
05-07-2011, 05:25 AM
99-04 Mustang GTs have 2 cams, where as the Mach 1s and Cobras have 4, Camaros only have 1 so thats why its more expensive to the mustangs. I've owned an 02 GT, 03 GT droptop and an 03 Cobra droptop and my dad had an 03 Mach 1 for a bit, I know the cars well and yes the LS1 camaros are stupid fast and cheap to mod but the chassis is about as stiff as a wet noodle and sitting in the car is like sitting in a cave.

Anyways we have now gotten way off topic, You could remove the bar but you will get some wind buffetting on the highway and such.

Cliff8928
05-07-2011, 12:52 PM
think i can remove that bar? i looked today doesnt run anyway only thing that happens is it raises and lowers when you open/close the sun roof.

Yeah, you can remove it... But you might get unpleasant sound/pressure change (buffeting) when you drive with it open and the windows closed.

BoarderTy
05-07-2011, 12:53 PM
Comgrats on it "build" I take pics of cars and their engines at shows too haha but whatever I don't really care if it's factory or aftermarket or if someone used a shit ford just wondering if the ar can be removed what is wind buffeting?

Cliff8928
05-07-2011, 01:03 PM
what is wind buffeting?

Rapid changes in pressure inside the car.

BoarderTy
05-07-2011, 01:36 PM
Which means...haha nothin bad can happen?

Cliff8928
05-07-2011, 03:21 PM
Nothing bad, just annoying

sleepyalero
05-07-2011, 04:23 PM
Might remove it then... boarder have you yet? Lol

xXManwhoreXx
05-07-2011, 08:54 PM
Do you really think gm would put such cheap shitty looking sunroofs in cars from the factory?

Did Gm put anything in our cars that "wasn't" shitty

i.e. Window regs, LIMG's, help from peeling dashes, solid soldering in the hazard light switch, lasting power steering pump's, engines with power... etc.. GM didn't really care


the bar is there to prevent air pressure from increseing too much.. like rolling down just one back window and your hear that noise that pops in your ears.. its going to do that constantly.


also Sleepy doesn't he have a WS6 I'm pretty sure Ive seen that one.. it was like white or something with the snow flake sticker right

Jroc26
05-08-2011, 08:13 PM
Overall these cars are junk I agree. But that's clearly not a factory sunroof is all I'm saying. Anyways I'm done with this thread this boarder guy is clearly an idiot. Pics from a car show? Really? They're clearly infront of a house genius.

sleepyalero
05-08-2011, 11:05 PM
Did Gm put anything in our cars that "wasn't" shitty

i.e. Window regs, LIMG's, help from peeling dashes, solid soldering in the hazard light switch, lasting power steering pump's, engines with power... etc.. GM didn't really care


the bar is there to prevent air pressure from increseing too much.. like rolling down just one back window and your hear that noise that pops in your ears.. its going to do that constantly.


also Sleepy doesn't he have a WS6 I'm pretty sure Ive seen that one.. it was like white or something with the snow flake sticker right

only problems ive had on my car was the hazard light.

and no my buddys TA is pewter with yes a snowflake. :p and i have one on mine to hahaha

BoarderTy
05-08-2011, 11:58 PM
Carshow, House, whatever it be. i just dont like you. :coolio:
but i can post some pics that i took at the gas station tonight if it helps anyone. also my buddys mitsubishi line. He does all the body molding and stuff. 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS with turbo (black one) Mitsubishi Mirage converted to look like an Evo and 2001 Eclipse 5sp (orange, also for sale) i didnt build them...dont get the wrong impression.

sleepyalero
05-09-2011, 12:05 AM
nice. jroc needs to post pics of the top of his.... just like those above.. i wanna see the difference.

JLw7123
05-09-2011, 12:06 AM
not bad how much HP is the turbo GS putting out. i would take and Mitsubishi any day over a ford.

sleepyalero
05-09-2011, 12:23 AM
i wouldnt own mitsubishi's nor fords.

wrestlingandrunning
05-09-2011, 01:57 AM
Just because I'm a newbie to the site doesn't mean I'm a newbie to cars. I've built cars and done shit you kids could only dream of, my cars just a DD so I maybe a newbie but you're a retard. Check the build sheet for your car I guarantee it won't say you have a sunroof. Do you really think gm would put such cheap shitty looking sunroofs in cars from the factory? And aleros all had the same factory sunroof 99-04 they are the same sunroofs that were in cavaliers and sunfires too. I bet you even have a plastic ring that goes around the sunroof on the outside of the car mounted to the roof.

Umm yes
Did Gm put anything in our cars that "wasn't" shittyi.e. Window regs, LIMG's, help from peeling dashes, solid soldering in the hazard light switch, lasting power steering pump's, engines with power... etc.. GM didn't really care

the bar is there to prevent air pressure from increseing too much.. like rolling down just one back window and your hear that noise that pops in your ears.. its going to do that constantly.


also Sleepy doesn't he have a WS6 I'm pretty sure Ive seen that one.. it was like white or something with the snow flake sticker right

Deff agree with second bold comment

i wouldnt own mitsubishi's nor fords.

x2 though the newer fords after the whole bailout thing looks like there getting there act together

Jroc26
05-09-2011, 02:25 AM
Ford never took a bailout...

wrestlingandrunning
05-09-2011, 02:27 AM
Ford never took a bailout...

I know but after the whole issue when the 3 car companies not doing well it seems Ford has started to produce a lot better quality than before.

Jroc26
05-09-2011, 03:19 AM
Yeah they started a slow upward swing awhile ago but they're going hard now for sure. They're making quality stuff

sleepyalero
05-09-2011, 03:44 AM
Yeah they started a slow upward swing awhile ago but they're going hard now for sure. They're making quality stuff

post pics of your sunroof from the outside of the car

Jroc26
05-09-2011, 06:00 AM
post pics of your sunroof from the outside of the car

Relax I will when I get home. If you can look at the pics of his and think its factory I don't really know what its gonna take

Jroc26
05-09-2011, 07:24 AM
Here ya go...

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/Jroc261/126.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa478/Jroc261/121.jpg

BoarderTy
05-09-2011, 09:58 AM
Yea my both my aunts and my step mom have aleros and they all have v6s with that sunroof. so maybe they put a different roof into the cars that had teh bigger engines? just my thought.

also the eclipse is pushing about 250hp

sleepyalero
05-09-2011, 03:19 PM
Different... but not as much.. oh well as long as I have one im happy lol

Cliff8928
05-10-2011, 01:50 AM
It's very different. The factory sunroof is completely flat when closed. The aftermarket ones have the black trim around the edges where it attaches to the roof.

BoarderTy
05-10-2011, 01:53 AM
im guessing you want a closed pic now?

sleepyalero
05-10-2011, 02:00 AM
It's very different. The factory sunroof is completely flat when closed. The aftermarket ones have the black trim around the edges where it attaches to the roof.

oh yeah i know but just little things .. when the window opens on jrocs the trim goes with the window, he has a different switch, and doesnt have that bar that pops up when you open the sun roof... and sits flush. no big deal..