guage sweep mod (VID) [Archive]

jawa

11-20-2011, 06:35 PM

i did this earler today and i love it,

the beeping is my escort powering up and the last beep was my phone telling me it was dying, and i know the tach is a little twitchy but its always been like that, also the dash lights do come on with the key not with the headlights

enjoy awsomness
:awesome:

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[ion] C2

11-20-2011, 06:38 PM

jawa

11-20-2011, 06:43 PM

thanks C2 can you pm me on how to do it

Shiwnath

11-20-2011, 06:46 PM

Does this make the Trip meter reset everytime or no?

jawa

11-20-2011, 06:55 PM

nope

[ion] C2

11-20-2011, 07:03 PM

jawa

11-20-2011, 07:06 PM

fixed

spc2125

11-20-2011, 07:17 PM

So are you going to keep us in the dark about how to do this?

TheEdgeofSanity

11-20-2011, 07:19 PM

awesome! i've always liked how grand am's do this and so far the only way i ever got my alero to do it is if the battery is nearly dead!

jawa

11-20-2011, 07:21 PM

lol

all i did was cut the orange wire on the plug going to the guage cluster, thn ran a switched power wire from the fuse box and connected that to the orange wire comming from the plug.

jhubbz

11-20-2011, 07:50 PM

lol

all i did was cut the orange wire on the plug going to the guage cluster, thn ran a switched power wire from the fuse box and connected that to the orange wire comming from the plug.

Are you basically saying you connected it to an accessory wire?

jawa

11-20-2011, 08:34 PM

yep

JLw7123

11-20-2011, 08:47 PM

i am going to do this on my time off. great mod.

Papa Rad17

11-20-2011, 11:38 PM

So the orenge wire eh?... Hmmmmmmmmmmmm. Also I like the red needles and back lighting.

jawa

11-21-2011, 02:00 AM

Those needles are off a passat.

Papa Rad17

11-21-2011, 02:55 AM

Are you basically saying you connected it to an accessory wire?

Theres no reason I couldn't just run the wire to the cubby light for it to work is there? That way just keeping everything more central instead if having to run it out to a new fuse.
edit: yes, it works great, needles sweep anytime the interior lighting comes on. its pretty nifty.

jhubbz

11-21-2011, 05:13 AM

Theres no reason I couldn't just run the wire to the cubby light for it to work is there? That way just keeping everything more central instead if having to run it out to a new fuse.

unless you only want the cluster to work when the interior lights are on. i dont think it would work that way anyway since it would almost be run in a closed circuit since the cubby light wiring has the same wiring to the cluster. it would be the same as running the orange wire (hot at all times) to the gray wire (interior lighting) in the same cluster pack leading into the gauges.

Papa Rad17

11-21-2011, 05:42 AM

Its working good so far. The positive to that light is grey, the needels sweep any time the interior lighting comes on, and they have enough of of delay that when starting they only sweep once. So far so good. It only took about 30min to do it all so if somthing starts screwing up it wasn't to huge a loss of time.

luckilero7

11-21-2011, 09:55 AM

So an official how-to and possibly pics for those more visual would help

mmorello82

11-21-2011, 10:36 AM

I'm with Luckilero7. How bout a how to. I have so many questions! How did you get the red dash lights? Did you get your A/C controls the same color. I wanna do this!

jawa

11-21-2011, 11:49 AM

ok guys i did not use the light power to power this mod, i taped into the fuse box to a SWITCHED power source ( i chose the wiper fuse), and ran that wire to the ORANGE wire at the plug of the guage cluster, if you use the light (grey) wire the guages will only work when you have the lights on, also the reason my dash lights come on with the key is because i wired it to do that, they DONOT come on with the lights, every time the key is on the dash lights are on

jawa

11-21-2011, 11:57 AM

OFFICIAL WRITE UP
no pix yet

this explains how to make the gauges sweep on start up,
first take the gauge bezel out, then remove the gauge cluster,
unplug the connector at the back of the gauge cluster,
find the orange wire and cut it, leave plenty of wire at the connector so you have room to work with it,
next run a wire from the fuse box that is switched with the key ( i used the wiper fuse), you can tap into the power wire for the radio if you have a aftermarket radio
nxt you connect the wire you ran from the fuse box to the ORANGE wire going into the cluster connector,
then connect the cluster and re install it to the dash and reinstall the bezel,
turn the key on and enjoy full sweep on startup,

jawa

11-21-2011, 12:00 PM

I'm with Luckilero7. How bout a how to. I have so many questions! How did you get the red dash lights? Did you get your A/C controls the same color. I wanna do this!

the ac controls are the same color as the dash
the bulbs are stock.....
but i took the cluster apart and applied a light filter film to the back of the gauge face, its actually called light filter gels and are available at most photography shops

luckilero7

11-21-2011, 05:42 PM

Thank you, may attempt.

Papa Rad17

11-21-2011, 06:07 PM

Ya, I found out the intiror light was a bad idea. The sunroof fuse is a good one to tap into though.

jhubbz

11-21-2011, 07:46 PM

Ya, I found out the intiror light was a bad idea. The sunroof fuse is a good one to tap into though.

lol told ya so.

I figured a better and easier way to do this altogether. If you look at the pinout of the cluster, the orange wire is in A12. There are two purple wires, but the one you want to use is in A2. This wire is hot in accessory/run or start. Splice the orange wire into that purple wire and you are good to go.

http://i40.tinypic.com/24ndy7t.jpg

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Hooray!!!! btw triple beep is my radar.

Papa Rad17

11-21-2011, 09:40 PM

I figured one of those wires up there would do it... And I spent an extra 5 minuets running over to the passenger fuse pannel for the sunroof. Gash dang it.

jawa

11-22-2011, 01:06 AM

Glad to inspire

Papa Rad17

11-22-2011, 08:45 AM

Glad to inspire

It's a very nice mod.

jhubbz

11-22-2011, 11:59 AM

Glad to inspire

THANKS JAWA!!!! Big ups to you

I've always wondered why it would sweep only when you plug in the cluster, but not any other time.

rocketfast321

11-22-2011, 03:40 PM

lol told ya so.

I figured a better and easier way to do this altogether. If you look at the pinout of the cluster, the orange wire is in A12. There are two purple wires, but the one you want to use is in A2. This wire is hot in accessory/run or start. Splice the orange wire into that purple wire and you are good to go.

http://i40.tinypic.com/24ndy7t.jpg

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Hooray!!!! btw triple beep is my radar.

:scpimp: I miss my gage sweep

Mike The Canadian

11-25-2011, 11:33 PM

jawa

11-25-2011, 11:54 PM

correct, to be certain use a volt meter and test the wires, but the orange wire on the alero is the power wire for the cluster

03Sleepr

11-26-2011, 01:32 AM

Just used jhubbz method worked great. but this way will reset your trip when you shut the car off

Mike The Canadian

11-26-2011, 02:34 AM

Just used jhubbz method worked great. but this way will reset your trip when you shut the car off

Hmm...damn that I don't want...

jawa

11-26-2011, 04:22 AM

Bah I never use the damm trip thing

03Sleepr

11-26-2011, 10:45 AM

me either, just figured I would mention it because I know some people that use it religiously..

rocketfast321

11-27-2011, 03:03 PM

Hmmm ok i understand now. You need to use a switch source that goes dead when the car is starting.

2001 Alero vs 2001 Grand Am

http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO~V249658736~C35637~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/80851247/80851248/83215100/83215102/34853741/34869956/55008060/42027207/87734376

http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO~V249658736~C35647~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/80851247/83215123/83215136/83215138/34853741/34869956/55008060/42027207/87734375

jhubbz

11-27-2011, 03:25 PM

Just used jhubbz method worked great. but this way will reset your trip when you shut the car off

Dang, I didn't even notice that!! Oh well, I don't care anyway. That's what my ultragauge is for.

Hmmm ok i understand now. You need to use a switch source that goes dead when the car is starting.

2001 Alero vs 2001 Grand Am

http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO~V249658736~C35637~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/80851247/80851248/83215100/83215102/34853741/34869956/55008060/42027207/87734376

http://www.alldatapro.com/alldata/PRO~V249658736~C35647~R0~OB0~P3R0H~N/0/80851247/83215123/83215136/83215138/34853741/34869956/55008060/42027207/87734375

Idk about dead, but you want to use wire that only has power in ACC or ON. I used the one I did bc it was right next to it, and only had power in ACC or ON. Idk how you would keep the trip meter going.

rocketfast321

11-27-2011, 04:09 PM

I just did the mod, i'm gonna see how long the trip keeps the memory. If it's 5 seconds or so, it will be easy to put in a relay with a normal set of close contacts. And they will open when the car is starting, and close back.

03glgold

11-28-2011, 11:22 PM

I used to use my trip gauge all the time so i could calculate fuel mileage...I will just write down fill up mileage on the car until someone figures out how to make it work with the gauge sweep...would it be possible to have the trip wire connected to the constant without anything else?

jawa

11-28-2011, 11:59 PM

yea but then the trip would always be on

03glgold

11-29-2011, 12:20 AM

I guess what I am trying to say is the trip memory...I don't know if I am saying what Iam thinking right

rocketfast321

11-29-2011, 09:12 AM

That's what the orange wire does. I'm toying around with ideal of getting some diodes, and a 9volt battery. Just enough power to keep memory

NONE

12-03-2011, 01:03 AM

super cool , shall be done b4 breakfast lol

Papa Rad17

12-03-2011, 01:03 PM

it does not clear the trip with this mod. it is still saved.

jawa

12-03-2011, 03:13 PM

How did u do it then ? mine resets

Papa Rad17

12-03-2011, 03:59 PM

i just wired it the sunroof fuse for the power source to the Orange wire. works fine... could be the difference between your 01 and my 03. I know there gauge pods arent interchangeable.

03Sleepr

12-03-2011, 04:08 PM

mine is an 03 and mine resets...but I don't have a sunroof..or ABS..or any of that extra junk lol..

Mike The Canadian

12-03-2011, 06:31 PM

i just wired it the sunroof fuse for the power source to the Orange wire. works fine... could be the difference between your 01 and my 03. I know there gauge pods arent interchangeable.

Could you explain how you did this by any chance?
did you use a fuse tap? Those tend to worry me...have heard bad things about them long term?

I'd love to do this if there was no drawback :d

Papa Rad17

12-03-2011, 10:11 PM

I dont have a sunroof either but the fuseholder still has power. I took a 5 fuse and cut ad sodered it to one side so it would still be fused.

Mike The Canadian

12-03-2011, 10:43 PM

I dont have a sunroof either but the fuseholder still has power. I took a 5 fuse and cut ad sodered it to one side so it would still be fused.

Hmm...I do have a sunroof... Gotta figure out my actions/options here...
At least I know it IS do-able though!

Papa Rad17

12-04-2011, 01:15 AM

there other power sources with the same imputs to them and stuff. doesnt specifically have to be the sunroof one..

MnG

01-03-2012, 10:30 PM

http://i40.tinypic.com/24ndy7t.jpg

I did it using this method and it worked perfectly. Takes only about 10 minutes, longest part is getting the dash pieces and gauge cluster out!

CrazzyCavanaugh

01-24-2013, 11:52 AM

does anyone know were i could get a wire diagram for my gauge cluster?
i have a 99 alero GL
i wanna find out what wire light up the gauges when the lights are turned on, i have reverse glow gauges in, but ones the cars turned on they come on because i didnt know what wire on the cluster was for the light so i just ran it to the ignition power on the cd player

03glgold

01-24-2013, 12:57 PM

Most of this type of thing has been covered, the search button can find most things that you need...it may not be for the cluster wires, however it is how most people do it

http://aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26511

CrazzyCavanaugh

01-24-2013, 01:02 PM

i loooked up if there was like stuff on google, but a bunch of diffrent shit come up everytime
and i just finished my gauge sweep mod not even 10mins ago, i love it, just curious what does that orange wire do anyways haha?
and thanks for the help
still figuring out how to do this alero mod forum stuff

03glgold

01-24-2013, 02:34 PM

orange is the constant power...you are just rewiring it so that both are switched power...ideally to have everything work you would have to find a way to have a small amount of current go through to remember the trip data, but not enough for it to not sweep

wombatslayer

01-24-2013, 05:51 PM

just for a quick rundown... you take the gauge cluster out, get the orange wire, and either tie it into the purple one, or extend it into the fuse of something, say... power windows? i don't have a power sunroof so i'm trying to think of something similar.

03glgold

01-24-2013, 06:22 PM

basically, I just clipped into the purple wire...you could still use the sunroof as the sunroof fuse is still active and in place

wombatslayer

01-24-2013, 06:30 PM

i'm gonna gave to give that a try. i don't use my trip. but, if i did want to keep it, i would extend the wire to a fuse right?

03glgold

01-24-2013, 06:35 PM

i'm gonna gave to give that a try. i don't use my trip. but, if i did want to keep it, i would extend the wire to a fuse right?

I think that is hit and miss but some have done that and retained the trip meter, however it is totally reversable

wombatslayer

01-24-2013, 08:36 PM

It works! That's pretty sweet.

jawa

01-24-2013, 11:41 PM

thanks :)

Difflay

04-19-2013, 12:06 AM

First mod done to my ho! Thanks man so much! Gotta be the coolest thing I've done so far! I did it the other way with the purple wire and it works great! Took like 20 min