Brake Upgrade...

[tw0123]

So after reading multiple threads, I have decided on the 12" rotor front and rear combo just in case I decide to go back to stock wheels... I just want to make sure I order the correct parts as I am relatively unsure about the multitude of parts offered on Rock Auto. Please help!

Here is my list and price... I thought I read this could be done for $500... It says $836...

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Car.gif2000 CHEVROLET CAMARO 3.8L V6
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Gear.gifBrake/Wheel Hub : CaliperRelated PartsA-1 CARDONE Part # 18B4693 Reman. Caliper w/Installation Hardware & Bracket
with Metal Piston; with Mounting Bracket; Front LeftACAD$41.58CAD$50.97CAD$92.55
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Remove.gifA-1 CARDONE Part # 18B4692 Reman. Caliper w/Installation Hardware & Bracket
with Metal Piston; with Mounting Bracket; Front RightACAD$41.58CAD$50.97CAD$92.55

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Car.gif2005 PONTIAC GRAND PRIX 5.3L V8
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Gear.gifBrake/Wheel Hub : RotorRelated PartsACDELCO Part # 18A1478 {#19111360, 19175253} replaces 19111360
ROTOR,RR BRK DURASTOP; 4 DOORSBCAD$45.86CAD$0.00CAD$91.72http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Remove.gifhttp://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Gear.gifBrake/Wheel Hub : CaliperRelated PartsNASTRA Part # 7477677 Reman Loaded; Set of 2 (Only 4 Remaining)
Rear; GXP
- Stocked in outlying warehouse--shipping delayed up to 1 business dayCCAD$148.62CAD$75.44CAD$224.06

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Car.gif2000 CHEVROLET IMPALA 3.4L V6
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/images/Gear.gifBrake/Wheel Hub : RotorRelated PartsRAYBESTOS Part # 56641 Outside Diameter 11.92" / 5 Bolt Holes Advanced Technology
FrontACAD$50.76CAD$0.00CAD$101.52
SubtotalCAD$602.40

Country: Canada
Postal Code: K9V 4R4
Shipping (http://www.rockauto.com/lang/en/answers.html#SHIPQUEST) from 3 locations: Ground (FedEx or UPS) (CAD$233.76) Shipping Location A Ground (FedEx or UPS) from United StatesCAD$133.03Shipping Location C Ground (FedEx or UPS) from United StatesCAD$53.61Shipping Location B Ground (FedEx or UPS) from United StatesCAD$47.12
TotalCAD$836.16

[Shiwnath]

Since you're getting them remanufactured anyways, you could try Partsource for the Camaro fronts.. that's where I got mine from. I didn't really want to wait for them to get here. Unfortunately they charge you a core of $45 each caliper, but the guys at partsource told me that I could just return my stock Alero calipers for the core because they don't really check for the camaro calipers. All they care about is if there are calipers in the box when you return them.

Also you can use the caliper pins and the brake line bolt from the stock setup which I recommend(as long as their in good condition of course), because my brother and I spent 1-2 hours trying to figure out why one of the lines kept leaking no matter what we did, until we replaced the bolt that the remanufacter supplied with the OEM bolt.

Also you can order rotors designed for a Camaro. That's what I'm actually using right now. Doesn't have to be for an Impala

[tw0123]

Thanks for the tips... I was really hoping to get this done over the winter, but at this price there is just no way... If this sway bar group buy goes through, that will be priority #1, then the brake upgrade...

[rustyballs_69]

It was about $500 US for the fronts only.

[a.graham52]

finding calipers at a scrap yard will drop the price quite a bit.

[mmorello82]

I thought about doing this too. Does the Master Cyl. Have enough volume?

[Shiwnath]

I thought about doing this too. Does the Master Cyl. Have enough volume?

The Alero master cylinder holds up fine with Camaro/Corvette brakes. It's not a concern.

[tw0123]

I think I may have to check the scrap yards... Just hard to tell if anything will be in the right condition to use... I am not a mechanic by any means, so I could buy a piece and it be complete junk or pure gold and I would barely be able to tell :P lol

[Shiwnath]

I hope you have better luck finding a junkyard with Camaro calipers available. I tried calling basically all the yards in my area with no luck. Luckily for myself when I went into Partsource they were on sale, but I don't recall how much I paid.. I think it came to $100 per side.

[Redog]

For $65 US you can get the Impala Rotors from Summit Racing. The Summit brand is slotted and x drilled

It's the core charge that gets you. Try Autopartsnerd. Advancedauto, even do Google shopping. I paid like $100 for each front, but no core charge.

Rear I paid a $10 core charge, but got them as a pair

[tw0123]

I'm still debating on the slotted and cross drilled vs. solid rotors... I like the heat dissipation of the 1st, but like the surface contact of the 2nd given I have 20's on the car...

I think I will check a couple local yards and see what I can source there, then it will be to each link listed above...

Thanks for all the help and opinions, if anyone has anything else to add, please feel free!!

[MMGT1]

These guys will custom make them for you too if you want someting special. They will make what you want, in any finish, any cut, and any combo...lol My system is from a 96 Vette. 94-96 Vette rotors drilled 5x115 is not something easily found! I am having them make me a set around Christmas time

http://www.adamsrotors.com/

[MMGT1]

I did finally order those like 3 weeks ago. Patiently waiting for them to come in. Got a mechanic at work that goes state side every week and they are being shipped to his mailing address there. Cant wait! Hope to get them this week actually...

[Rexter9x]

I wish the timing was better for my leaky caliper. I would love to do the twin piston upgrade on the front.

[MMGT1]

I know the big brakes look great, but I am still not convinced that they are any better than my origional set up with Power Slot and Hawk's. That combo was nothing short of amazing. I have stock Corvette parts on it now and it sucks compared to the other. Maybe the new stuff will perform at a much higher level. Once i have this on, Ill post my review of it.

[guiguilandry]

I know the big brakes look great, but I am still not convinced that they are any better than my origional set up with Power Slot and Hawk's. That combo was nothing short of amazing. I have stock Corvette parts on it now and it sucks compared to the other. Maybe the new stuff will perform at a much higher level. Once i have this on, Ill post my review of it.

I second what you say, my fisrt setup was baer decelarotor drilled, stock sized with hawk hp+ pads... they were really impressive,
but my corvette brakes don't suck... they are amazing... Z06 FTW

[unchained01]

so has anyone gotten GXP calipers or have a source for them ? I want front and rear

[mfuller]

I have a set of GXP rear calipers that I'll let go for cheap.
Also (if I ever get around to it), my old Baer Racing Track+ front big brakes will be for sale.

[kwhauck]

Matt, damn you for tempting me with such awesome parts!

[tw0123]

[quote=mfuller;610442]I have a set of GXP rear calipers that I'll let go for cheap.quote]

pm sent... let's work out shipping and we have a deal! Thanks Matt

[Caboose73]

http://www.mpracing.org/store/1999-2004-alero/brakes-and-suspension.html

Should of picked up the MPracing kit for $250 i have it and it works great and fits under the stock 16s

[guiguilandry]

don't buy from MPRacing !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tw0123]

^^ way too many issues coming to light in the last year to even consider dealing with MP Racing... not to mention I have 20's so that is the main reason I want bigger brakes, not something that fits under the stock 16's... I was going to do GXP's all the way around, but with the front rotor, I would need at least 19's and I have been considering what happens if I switch out to 18's... I will have a set of Impala Police Brakes for the front within the next 3 weeks (thanks to Trevor!!) and now Matt and I are working out a deal for his GXP rear's...

[Caboose73]

The kit uses camaro calibers and 12inch rotors the same as doing the corvette swap or any other available swap out there.Not sure anybody elses problems but i just bought these maybe 3 months ago and had no problems even striped the banjo bolt hole and contacted them to find out what caliber it was and they got right back to me.

[guiguilandry]

you're lucky, I can't get in contact with him and he literally stole me 140$ when it was my third purchase with him (had already bought worth 800$ to him before)... BTW sorry for crapping your thread... Back on topic

[kwhauck]

I refuse to run bigger brakes because I want to fit 15" slicks.....

[billytheman1188]

The big brake upgrade was DEF one of the best/most noticeable mods i've done to my car (besides the headers). You will LOVE IT....especially if your doing the rears too....oh man.... right now i have the camaro brakes up front and stock in the rear and its a nice set up. But since i'm doing the 3500 swap its time to upgrade the rears too :coolio:

Good luck! Also, you should def look into getting some stainless brake lines. BUT HERE'S A WARNING.....the nut holding the brake line to the metal line tends to seize up and not wanna come off. Which means you will have to cut the line and re-taper it? (did i use the correct term?). I had my buddy there to help so it wasn't a big issue but if you don't have the tools to do it....just stick with the stock lines for now.

[MMGT1]

Flare the line is what I think you were going for there

[billytheman1188]

Flare the line is what I think you were going for there

YES...lol. Thank you.

[tw0123]

lol... my lines will stay stock for now until they rust out, which is bound to happen... my neighbour works for a gm dealer and he "gets" product from there all the time... he re-did my van with a new copper line they are using that wont rust... might get him to use that, or i may go with the stainless upgrade... and eventually the camaro calipers...