ANOTHER suspension overhaul

[billytheman1188]

This time im doing it right..... i went with the KYB struts (OE replacement ones) and H&R springs the first time....now im gonna switch to the KYB AGX, keep the H&R and get better strut mounts (thinking the KYB ones? are they good?)

also, i was looking at relocating my battery.....gonna be getting a yellowtop soon....would this kit work good?

http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-Battery-Relocation-Kits/752215/10002/-1

[[ion] C2]

regular mounts seem fine, all mine are new and haven't noticed anything sub-par

except for the time when i had them loose haha

[<woj99>]

The KYB mounts, unlike their struts, are poor quality and people have had issues with them breaking within a short period of time, you can read up on this on the n-body forums. I think most people go with monroe or moog strut mounts.

Also have a question for you. Are you making the switch to KYB AGX because you had a problem with the H&R springs and KYB GR-2 combo? Or do you just want the adjustment and better struts? I have H&R springs and KYB GR-2 struts ready to be installed in the spring, but I am wondering whether to spend the extra $200 and upgrade to AGX if there are going to be problems with the other ones. Thanks.

[billytheman1188]

The KYB mounts, unlike their struts, are poor quality and people have had issues with them breaking within a short period of time, you can read up on this on the n-body forums. I think most people go with monroe or moog strut mounts.

Also have a question for you. Are you making the switch to KYB AGX because you had a problem with the H&R springs and KYB GR-2 combo? Or do you just want the adjustment and better struts? I have H&R springs and KYB GR-2 struts ready to be installed in the spring, but I am wondering whether to spend the extra $200 and upgrade to AGX if there are going to be problems with the other ones. Thanks.

Thanks for letting me know about the mounts....will def look at other ones. Im switching cause i've had some issues with this set up....but there are other people on this site with the GR-2s that have no issues at all...i just wanna have better ones/with the adjustment...idk if my spring isnt seated right on the back right of the car but i dont like the sound of it lol

[MMGT1]

Sensa-Trac has mounts that I am using right now that seem to be holding up OK. I, for some reason, am really freakin' hard on the rear ones so these are fairly new. Three months or so I'd say and so far, so good....

[03Sleepr]

I'm with you...I went with gr2 and sprint springs and now I wished I had spent some extra and gone with h&r and agx..but now I'll probably wait for coilovers from wot-tech.

[unchained01]

Ben is making a set of coilovers with AGX struts checkout the post on 60v6 And just sold the first test set, they just need to work out rear spring rates So if the sway group buy happens we will have the best we can have for the nbody platform

[billytheman1188]

Ben is making a set of coilovers with AGX struts checkout the post on 60v6 And just sold the first test set, they just need to work out rear spring rates So if the sway group buy happens we will have the best we can have for the nbody platform

Yea...but i still want ride comfort....with coilovers good luck holding a coffee and driving without burning yourself ;)

[xXManwhoreXx]

He said you cant even adjust ride height with the coilovers.... I would much rather have lowering springs than 800 !bucks stuck at stock ride height

I think this new setup will be awesome

[mmorello82]

I've learned since I started working on cars that there are just some brands you stay with. Oil filters = Wix, Suspension and Steering = Moog, Bearings = Timken, etc.

[unchained01]

Im with ya on that Billy !! The AGX struts allow for compression/rebound adjustment and you can change spring rates all around in 25lb increments is the point i was trying to make or depending on your use you can taylor your suspension the way you want just by changing settings and springs .

[mfuller]

He said you cant even adjust ride height with the coilovers.... I would much rather have lowering springs than 800 !bucks stuck at stock ride height

I think this new setup will be awesome
I don't think that's what he (Ben) said. It does lower the car, but not lower than what currently-available lowering springs can accomplish. He did say that you can't "slam" the car. He did say that handling was still much improved.

[<woj99>]

Thanks for letting me know about the mounts....will def look at other ones. Im switching cause i've had some issues with this set up....but there are other people on this site with the GR-2s that have no issues at all...i just wanna have better ones/with the adjustment...idk if my spring isnt seated right on the back right of the car but i dont like the sound of it lol

Thanks for the info. I think I'll do the same and upgrade to the AGX before installing. The upgrade from GR-2s is not all that more expensive considering the overall cost of upgrading the suspension. Might as well do it right the first time.

[jhubbz]

This time im doing it right..... i went with the KYB struts (OE replacement ones) and H&R springs the first time....now im gonna switch to the KYB AGX, keep the H&R and get better strut mounts (thinking the KYB ones? are they good?)

also, i was looking at relocating my battery.....gonna be getting a yellowtop soon....would this kit work good?

http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS-Performance-Products/JEGS-Battery-Relocation-Kits/752215/10002/-1

Glad I read this thread. I will more than likely be doing this in the spring. Was gonna do GR2's, but might as well get the AGX's.

Why are you relocating your battery?

[mmorello82]

I was planning on do this too. But what are the best springs to buy? I only want to drop by about an inch or so. Does anyone have a link to good springs?

[billytheman1188]

I was planning on do this too. But what are the best springs to buy? I only want to drop by about an inch or so. Does anyone have a link to good springs?

H&R springs are what i have....i drive it year round and very rarely bottom out....in fact i dont think i have bottomed out since i had these springs....just gotta be careful going over speed bumps or watch for big pot holes lol. H&R drop the car about 1.4-1.6 inches. If you dont wanna go that far then just get the Eibachs....they lower it about 1.2

[unchained01]

If ben gets the coilover setup ironed out with AGX struts i will have a set of eibach's for sale NIB And your close to me in parkersburg too

[Papa Rad17]

He said you cant even adjust ride height with the coilovers.... I would much rather have lowering springs than 800 !bucks stuck at stock ride height

I think this new setup will be awesome

theres actually a guy in Terre Haute IN i meet at the mall a few weeks ago, he went to school there at IT tech and opened his own shop, he has a coilover kit for N body vehicles he sells. fully adjustable, because he works exclusively on N body vehicles at his shop. I saw his grandam in the parking lot... damn! he also has an alero he's done tons of work to. I got the card for his shop, he said he's had the coilover kit on his grandam for about 5 years with no problems. want me to check with him on a price or anything for you? -- he was also familiar with aleromod and the grandam forums-- small world afterall

[unchained01]

a PM with his number and some pics posted of his coilover setup and the speca would be great !!!

[JLw7123]

a PM with his number and some pics posted of his coilover setup and the speca would be great !!!

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[Papa Rad17]

heres the number on his card for his shop 812-251-9366 Richard Greeson. or transformedilluzionz@gmail.com

[mmorello82]

Thanks Papa Rad!I will be sending him an e-mail. @ Unchained, What part of Maryland do you live? Been there a few times. Oh also, when I do this, I am wanting to put rims on her. What is a good size rim and tire size to use and have no problems either? Here is what I am thinking about. What do ya think? http://www.wheelplususa.com/package_view.php?f_wheel_id=466036&f_tire_id=5118

[Papa Rad17]

^those would look sweet! Personally I'm a fan of 17s on alero's. 16's have to much tire but after having 18's for a while myself they are to big.

[robalero]

I find 225/50r17 is the perfect size for the alero lowered on 17's obviously. its what I ride on it gives me a perfect grip on the road, nice wheel gap, and lots of room left in the tire if I hit a pot hole.

im riding on monroes and my eibachs I find they work quite well together ( monroe strut mounts as well )

[kwhauck]

theres actually a guy in Terre Haute IN i meet at the mall a few weeks ago, he went to school there at IT tech and opened his own shop, he has a coilover kit for N body vehicles he sells. fully adjustable, because he works exclusively on N body vehicles at his shop. I saw his grandam in the parking lot... damn! he also has an alero he's done tons of work to. I got the card for his shop, he said he's had the coilover kit on his grandam for about 5 years with no problems. want me to check with him on a price or anything for you? -- he was also familiar with aleromod and the grandam forums-- small world afterall

I would be highly suspicious of any homebuilt coilovers, I had a set before and they were absolutely terrible to drive on, and handled like shit with no adjustment other than height.

I find 225/50r17 is the perfect size for the alero lowered on 17's obviously. its what I ride on it gives me a perfect grip on the road, nice wheel gap, and lots of room left in the tire if I hit a pot hole.

im riding on monroes and my eibachs I find they work quite well together ( monroe strut mounts as well )

I personally prefer 255/40/17s on my car.....

[unchained01]

i am in western maryland

[mmorello82]

Well that would be cool. If it does work out, give me a shout and I'll meet up for the springs. @ kwhauck, My biggest thing is the speedo reading right. What size should I go and get the closest reading? There are bored cops in my town that will pull you over for 2 or 3 over!

[xXManwhoreXx]

theres actually a guy in Terre Haute IN i meet at the mall a few weeks ago, he went to school there at IT tech and opened his own shop, he has a coilover kit for N body vehicles he sells. fully adjustable, because he works exclusively on N body vehicles at his shop. I saw his grandam in the parking lot... damn! he also has an alero he's done tons of work to. I got the card for his shop, he said he's had the coilover kit on his grandam for about 5 years with no problems. want me to check with him on a price or anything for you? -- he was also familiar with aleromod and the grandam forums-- small world afterall

Yes please! I would love to know the price on em

[Papa Rad17]

Yes please! I would love to know the price on em

mmorello82, could you update when he gets back to you from your email? if not I'm having him do my exhaust when I get all my crap in in a few weeks and I can talk to him and get the low down then.

[robalero]

kwhauck it does really come down to personal opinion I just perfer some meat to my tires since the area I live in has way too many pot holes and near impossible to hit at least one a day if your on the road

[kwhauck]

@ kwhauck, My biggest thing is the speedo reading right. What size should I go and get the closest reading? There are bored cops in my town that will pull you over for 2 or 3 over!

225/45/17 would be the size closest to stock and with that tire when your speedo reads 60mph you would be going 60.3mph

kwhauck it does really come down to personal opinion I just perfer some meat to my tires since the area I live in has way too many pot holes and near impossible to hit at least one a day if your on the road

I could understand that, potholes suck and it would be terrible to ruin a rim (i've done it before)