Pcm For Alero

[CorruptConceptz]

I contacted digital horsepower inc. and talked to a guy about a group buy for a pcm for an alero. The minimum is 10 people. The price if i get ten people to order it is 190 a piece. If i can get 15 people to order i can get them for 180 but thats the lowest i could get em to go. If anybody is interested i need to know.

Thank you,
Ricky


This is the email they sent.

Group buys are a minimum of 10 orders prepaid.

We have calibrated many Aleros. Cost for 10 orders: $190 a piece, Cost for 15+ is $180


From: "Ricky Tackett" <corruptconceptz@hotmail.com>
To: sales@digitalhorsepowerinc.com
Subject: PCM for a oldsmobile alero 99-04
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Dear digital horse power<


I heard you guys make the pcm for pfyc (parts for your car) they said that they cant get them made for oldsmobile aleros, so i am contacting you.

I am part of a website called www.aleromod.com that specializes in moding aleros and would appreciate it if you guys can make some for us.

There are alot of aleros that could benifit from this.

I need to know if you guys would be interested in a group buy. I need to know how many people it would take to order one, for you guys to make it. I also need to know how much the part would be and if there is a core charge. I would greatly appreciate your response to this and hope that we can do business...

Sinceraly,

Ricky J Tackett Jr.

[Redog]

OK what kind of gains are expected on a 2000 with the 3.4?

If they are good, put me on the list.

About when will they be ready?

Is there a core charge?

[CorruptConceptz]

i'm waitin for him to send me another email for all that info. As far as i know there is no core charge but im waitin to find out. But it's bacically the same as the one in the upgrades list on the main page.

[Redog]

:D :thumbsup:

Ok let's keep this topic active

[CorruptConceptz]

This is the info they had for the grand am should be about the same. And also there might be 100 core till you send yours back but still i am not sure.


Available for 1999-2002 Pontiac Grand AM GT and developed with the average 3.4L V6 enthusiast in mind, this PCM has been designed and dynamometer tested and proven for the following modifications:

Cold air induction system (any brand)
Cat-back exhaust system (any brand)
Premium fuel (91 octane or higher is required)

If you have more aggressive modifications (such as a camshaft) done to your vehicle, please consult with us prior to purchasing this product
NOTE: This vehicle requires a Security Relearn Procedure for proper installation. See below for instructions.

FEATURES:

Speed limiter removed
3-1 and 4-2 skip shifts
Transmission line pressure increased
Shift points moved (5800-6000rpms)
Fan turn on points altered as follows:
186 degree F turn on
2 minute fan on at key-off (this feature activates when engine coolant is 179 degrees or greater)
Fuel/spark adjustments as follows:
Enrichens fuel delivery for critical problem areas
Provides a consistent power gain across the entire power band
Reduces spark retard (knock retard)
Dynamometer testing has shown up to an 6 to 10 HP gain in 60 degree temperatures on a development vehicle using 93 octane fuel.

Digital Horsepower now offers a STANDARD FREE service called Flash Guard. This provides for one re-flash to your PCM with the code purchased in the event of code overwrite (i.e. the dealer accidentally flashes your PCM with factory code). The unit returned to DHP must be the same unit we sold you and must be accompanied by all of the items listed below. Failure to meet all of the requirements will result in them returning your unit and you will also incur shipping charges both ways.

[Youngblood77]

"Dynamometer testing has shown up to an 6 to 10 HP gain in 60 degree temperatures on a development vehicle using 93 octane fuel. "


key words: " UP TO a 6 or 10 hp gain."

So basically what they're saying is: with a CAI, a cat-back exhaust, 75 degree temps running 89 octane, you might not see any gain at all....? :unsure:

(other than the tranny and speed limiter alterations )

Sry guys, it's the "up to" that makes me wonder is all. ;)

If they were advertising hard numbers, I'd probably be more optomistic.

[CorruptConceptz]

getting ready to talk to the guy on the phone and he is goin to tell me whats up.

im basically in it for the no speed limiter and a cheaper price for a group buy of 15 people.

[smokinAMD]

I'm in if another option doesn't pan out.

[Redog]

Not too much intrested in the speed limiter but def the shift points and the cooling

[wy3134]

As good a deal this might seem, I feel what might work better is if they could work with each individual on the group buy to work with their specific setups, as I know most of us have different mods or a different degree of modifications. Some have stock and would just like to see the shift points moved, others might have a CAI and exhaust, and others might have even more extreme mods. I would also like to know which engine this will be made for.....still seems like a good deal though, although I wont buy one cause im planning for more serious mods in the future and will need a custom pcm setup.

[theirishgonzo]

so no core? i still have my warentee and i will have to change out the 2 units if i need servis. is it hard to switch out the pcm? for 10 hp it will be great. i will be in like flint if it is for 180 what is the time fraim for this?

[FormulaNERD]

last i checked the pcm would be tuned for cai/exhaust ( and maybe headers) and it was 3.4 only.

[Redog]

Do you have to run a CAI all the time? I run a WAI on the street and CAI on the track

[|Rev|]

too bad its only for the 3.4L, I need somethin for my 4 banger

[1WhiteOSV]

Keep us updated...I will DEFINITLY be in if we get it at $190 or $180.

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by Redog@Sep 3 2004, 12:56 PM
Do you have to run a CAI all the time? I run a WAI on the street and CAI on the track
as far as the tune is concerned, i dont think it'll matter all that much, it may run a tiny bit rich, but i dont see it being a huge factor.

[Redog]

/\/\/\ cool

OK put me on the list.

When will this be out

[bdyman]

ok so what about the guys with the ecotec and the quad 4???
are we shafted again or what

[FormulaNERD]

what do you mean shafted again, i mean, i understand where you're coming from, but at least you have some support from gm performance and rksport.

and another reason i think it's for the 3.4 only is because they've already had a GAGT tune for a while now, and it probably wasnt that hard for them to adapt it to the alero since the tranny gearing is pretty much the only difference.

and besides, they do saturn tuning for 97-03, wouldnt that include the eco?

[jabartram]

I'm running a DHP-PCM fuel mixture ran dam near perfect across the board on the dyno!!!! any other questions I can help answer.

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by jabartram@Sep 4 2004, 12:09 AM
I'm running a DHP-PCM fuel mixture ran dam near perfect across the board on the dyno!!!! any other questions I can help answer.
yes, but your tune is calibrated for cai/exhaust. and you have cai/exhaust, that's not what he was asking.

[CorruptConceptz]

i am tryin to get the guy on the phone but he didnt call wont know anything till tuesday and im not sure that it is only for a v6 because the guy said that he has did this for many aleros in the past

i will post tuesday and answer all your questions thanks

[Redog]

As for you 2.2/2.4 guys I believe their is a chip for youse guys already :unsure:

[jabartram]

Well then nevermind, I have experience with their PCM and thought I might be able to give some insight on the performance,

[FormulaNERD]

no, you're input was good, i just dont know if you read his question right....

[mike2002]

im interested in this chip, but my car is bone stock, so id probably get it and wait till i can get the cai/slp.... the one thing holding me back, premium fuel? would it work fine off 89? i used premium in my last car, i hated paying 30+ for a fillup. guess its only $2 more a fillup though...

also, with skip shifts, they sound good, but isn't that the biggest cause of faliure in l67 chipped cars? doesn't sound to good for the tranny. how strong is my 2001 4t45? im used to my 4t80 which could take some abuse :D

anyone with this chip want to chime in on how it helped? i know the 3.4 got decent torque, but it seems to only have "sweet spots"

[mfuller]

Well, I figure I should provide a few answers since I've run more aftermarket PCM programs (over the last 2.5 years) than anyone else.......

Yes, gains of 6-10 HP (at the crank), on average, are what most people will see. Extracting power from a NA engine isn't easy, especially considering how most cars have fairly-well optimized tuning from the factory. Seriously, the factory tune in a V6 Alero is pretty good. Forced induction changes things a bit, but that doesn't apply for most of us, so I won't get into that. You must be aware some cars will benefit more than others - everyone knows that two otherwise identical cars built on the same day can have very different performance characteristics. Some cars run better out of the box than others, and these cars will likely see less of an improvement.

Now to fueling. Most cars will need to run premium fuel to keep misfires at bay. A DHP (or any other aftermarket) PCM partly frees up power by increasing spark advance - the downside is a greater tendency for the engine to ping and misfire. Premium fuel works to curb the engine's tendency to misfire - but as I said, some engines run better than others; you might be able to get away with running mid-grade (a few might even be able to run regular, but it's very rare), but aftermarket programming takes an average engine into account, not a "factory freak".

The extra line pressure does firm up the shifts, and increases the life expectancy of the clutches, but there's no such thing as a free lunch - it comes at the expense of more wear on the transmission pump. My tranny has arguably seen more abuse than the majority of the people on this board, and it still runs pretty good. If you don't constantly thrash on the car, wear on the pump isn't really a concern. GM builds these trannys to go 150,000 miles......there's no reason why anyone's should blow up sooner than that unless you abuse it all the time.

Hope that answers your questions.

"Advise is free, parts and labor are extra."

[-Alero-]

what would happen if you buy the DHP-PCM, and later put on a CAI, and exhaust, and get better spark plugs? is that a nay no? or should a PCM be bought later?

[mfuller]

Originally posted by Alero-@Sep 4 2004, 10:59 PM
what would happen if you buy the DHP-PCM, and later put on a CAI, and exhaust, and get better spark plugs? is that a nay no? or should a PCM be bought later?
It really doesn't matter - all those mods are pretty minor.

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by Alero-@Sep 5 2004, 04:59 AM
what would happen if you buy the DHP-PCM, and later put on a CAI, and exhaust, and get better spark plugs? is that a nay no? or should a PCM be bought later?
besides, it's already gonna be tuned for cai and exhaust, so when you upgrade, you'll be matching the tune.... wont need to be retuned.

[-Alero-]

oh ok, thats good to know

[Arsonalero]

i dont know about DHP but i had the ASE chip which it sounds like it did the same as DHP, but im only at 79,000+ miles and i need a new tranny. Its Slips pretty bad. but for the first year it was awesome.

[Arsonalero]

oh i forgot, i also had a CAI and Delta Flow 40 series Flowmaster, it helped beating the faster import.....but now i dont have the ASe chip anymore.... had to replace the motor!! and the PCM decided to take a poop with it so..

[Redog]

I'm still interseted in it.

I just had my tranny flushed and it shifts very well now.

AS long as you take good care of the car. oil, tranny, etc. and don't kill it every day, everyhting will last a while

[CorruptConceptz]

Sorry for the wait guys but i emailed my number to him cause he needed to talk to me on the phone. I'm Just waitin for the call and then maybe if everyeone does need to talk to him i can give him your phone numbers or you can email them to him. :thumbsup:


Now thats a powerful alero lol.

[JMac'sAlero]

Is that photochopped??? if not how the hell did they do that lol

[Vtolds]

I would buy a powertuner for the Alero not a computer and what does your group buy include just the 3.4 liter or also the 2.4 liter and the 2.2 liter?

[Redog]

Can this PCM desentise the knock sensor?

['04 aler-ho]

i would be interested if they can take into account for a turbo and such