Wont start lol

[ATownDown]

Alright, I just had the whole top end of my motor off to replace my injectors.. Everything went well.. torqued everything put all the wires back together however now it will not start.. I tried priming the fuel lines but im still getting nothing. Anyone got any ideas? I tried google but they give me the same bullshit about the anti theft bypass or whatever (Which is a fucking joke...) Anyways, I just wanted to figure out if i completely fucked up my car and if i should just sell the car.. Has anyone else had this problem before??:canada:

[[ion] C2]

yeah, look at everything and see if anything is disconnected. there's nothing more to it than this.

[ATownDown]

C2;620994']yeah, look at everything and see if anything is disconnected. there's nothing more to it than this.

how about if the egr valvue hose isnt connected

[xXManwhoreXx]

Wont make it not start.. Is it turbing over but not starting or not even chugging. Check spark but my guess is a sensor or ground

[ATownDown]

Wont make it not start.. Is it turbing over but not starting or not even chugging. Check spark but my guess is a sensor or ground

Nah she cranks but wont start.. Im thinking maybe not enough fuel in my car (Seeing i live life on a quarter tank) however im gonna buy some starter spray and see how that shit works... Why can't everything be as easy as a carb engine

[Redog]

Are you holding the pedal to the floor?
Are any wires on the ICM cut? (ex wife did this to my car :mad2: )
Is the ICM plugged in all the way?
Is the security light on?

That's all I can think of

[ATownDown]

Are you holding the pedal to the floor?
Are any wires on the ICM cut? (ex wife did this to my car :mad2: )
Is the ICM plugged in all the way?
Is the security light on?

That's all I can think of

Should I be holding the pedal to the floor?

no nothing is cut, luckily my ex girlfriend don't hate me that much..

The ICM seems to be plugged in all the way

And the security light comes on every now and then but i already bypassed the anti theft lock before (Was 4 hours out of town when I had to figure that out..)

[Redog]

When you cut the fuel system, you have to floor it while cranking, like an Old Chevy Carb'ed car. As soon as it kicks over, let off the gas ;)

[ATownDown]

When you cut the fuel system, you have to floor it while cranking, like an Old Chevy Carb'ed car. As soon as it kicks over, let off the gas ;)

Awesome I will try that out, thanks for the help and I will post if shes a go or no go. Final question.. Will it take a couple times trying this method?

[xXManwhoreXx]

Depends on how long it takes to build up pressure

[ATownDown]

Depends on how long it takes to build up pressure

Im thinking maybe with the 1/8th of a tank of gas its not building enough pressure, i checked the bleed valve and nothing came out. I jumped the fuel pump relay as well to make it run constantly.. So i'm thinking i need to head to a gas station with a couple of jerry cans. God damn I got a hate/love for these cars. Fun as hell but you definitely gotta put some tedious effort into them.

[jhubbz]

If that doesn't work, just disconnect the battery for 30 mins or so and reconnect it, wait another 30, then try to crank it again. Sometimes things need to reset. Especially if you have the Passlock disabled/bypassed

[[ion] C2]

When you cut the fuel system, you have to floor it while cranking, like an Old Chevy Carb'ed car. As soon as it kicks over, let off the gas ;)

wtf no you don't lmao

when you cut the fuel system, you turn the key to on, then back to off, then back to on. and by then it should have enough pressure to start.. what in the world would the throttle plate's position have anything to do with it injecting fuel during startup?

[Redog]

^^ That's the way I was taugh, yo!

[ATownDown]

Alright, I figured it out after i put about 5 gallons of gas in and left the fuel pump running. My Injectors are leaking like a mad whore and now im not quite sure what to do about it.

[[ion] C2]

sigh.......

leaking from where they seat into the rail?

leaking into the ports, flooding the engine?

or what?

[Redog]

Can you smell raw gasoline?

Sounds like you crushed the o ring

[ATownDown]

Fuck yeah I can smell raw gas. I left my fuel pump running while i ate a sub from subway and while i was mowin down i entered the garage to see a shit ton of gas on the floor and even more underneath my fuel line. I'll check my o rings carefully and see what happens.

[ATownDown]

Can you smell raw gasoline?

Sounds like you crushed the o ring

You were absolutely right. The O-ring that is in to connect the fuel rail to the fuel line is gone now.. Does this typically happen? not only is the o ring off the line but its no where to be seen now. can it really fuck up my fuel rail if it went into there?

[a.graham52]

chances are it dropped onto the transmission, its a brown o ring. i had the same problem when i did heads on my car so your not the first. take a realy good flashlight and start scoping your trans, look under the car and see if its sitting on the floor.

[xXManwhoreXx]

Just get a new one the old one is now dirty and wont seal right

[[ion] C2]

and yeah it's a common thing to happen

[billytheman1188]

o ring could have fell into the engine too....i had that happen when taking my injectors out....had to fish it out with a clothes hanger.

[zzyzzx]

That particular O ring is famous for going flying when that piece is disconnected. When I did my LIM and was putting it back together I found mine under the engine. I probably wasted an hour looking for it, and reading here looking at pictures of it so I knew what to look for.

You are looking for the brown O ring shown here next to the fitting circled in white:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/angrysk8r/fuellineremoval2.jpg

[ATownDown]

That particular O ring is famous for going flying when that piece is disconnected. When I did my LIM and was putting it back together I found mine under the engine. I probably wasted an hour looking for it, and reading here looking at pictures of it so I knew what to look for.

You are looking for the brown O ring shown here next to the fitting circled in white:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/angrysk8r/fuellineremoval2.jpg

Exactly what it was, i replaced it last night and it started but sounds like shit seeing the egr valvue isnt connected but thats a whole different deal.. thanks for the help.

[Gr1m]

hopefully that o ring didnt come off in the fuel rail...that will lead to problems down the road. you should always lube up the o rings slighty with some vaseline to prevent them from catching an edge and tearing/ripping.