quarter panels are troubled

[wombatslayer]

the quarter panels on my car are rusting to nothing.. would anybody know if i can buy new ones and weld them on mine? (cut them out obviously) it would sound like it would look a lot better if i bought new ones from a factory rather than just welding a piece of sheet metal on on it. i'm desperate to get them done. i see websites with them but no photos. i'm not trying to buy something i can't see. knowing my luck i'll end up buying something wrong.

[sleepyalero]

Well, considering the rear quarter is connected to your C pillar and runs all the way to the roof of the car (all one piece, impossible to remove), you can't buy a new quarter panel. You would have to cut it and weld. You might want a shop to do the work, and it probably won't be cheap.

[Redog]

That's what they had to do to my car in 2006 after the accident.

Quarter panel, wheel, and repair sheet metal on the door, $2500

[04PONTIACGA]

Well, considering the rear quarter is connected to your C pillar and runs all the way to the roof of the car (all one piece, impossible to remove), you can't buy a new quarter panel. You would have to cut it and weld. You might want a shop to do the work, and it probably won't be cheap.

You can buy them, but I don't think new. He would have to get it from a j/y, but I would suggest taking it to a shop too. Somethings are better left to the pros.

[wombatslayer]

I wasn't going to replace the whole piece, I was referring to cutting them. And there is a guy will take care of it for 400. As long as I get the pieces so he doesn't have to re-make them.

[04PONTIACGA]

I wasn't going to replace the whole piece, I was referring to cutting them. And there is a guy will take care of it for 400. As long as I get the pieces so he doesn't have to re-make them.

Go for it if he does good work. Have you seen anything he has done?

[comanche]

A guy bought an Alero coupe from me a couple years ago and had a local body shop repair the panels by cutting out the rust and welding in new steel. $800 and it looked real good.

[wombatslayer]

Yeah, I've seen his work. It's pretty damn good. Better than most body shops. My uncle had an alero coupe with the same issue. He re-created the metal to match the moldings of the car. Nobody could tell it was rusted out at anytime. I wouldn't go anywhere else for bodywork.

[bdyman]

Children let the adults play now. Ok here we go...."..........

First off your asking if you can buy the quater from a factory. Lol. Dont ya mean the parts department at the dealership?.. Have we all forgotten to remove all the parts. The quater glass and the rear window. And the bumper the tail light. Remove the deck lid. The interior. Like the seats, the quater trim. The package shelf.

Not only do you have to buy the quater ya have to buy a new rear window molding. Once its cut off thats it Not to mention ya need window urathene. Have ya ever cut and or installed glass before?.. Im gonna go anead and say ya havent. Plus the material like ohhhhhh i dunno the panel bond!!!!! Grinding discs, snad paper. Roloc wheels. Paint, masking tape and paper

More.......

[xXManwhoreXx]

Chris!

[bdyman]

Manwhore,,,!!!!!!
I had a huge paragraph typed out too and it logged me out so here we go again

[bdyman]

So once all parts are removed glass is out. Now there are 2 ways to remove them panle
A.drill out spot welds
B. grind themm out with a grinding disc

I perfer to grind them off it keeps the mating flanges clean and not left with a small piolt hole. Clean the old mating flanges. And the new panle and all new metal comes with a e coat

[bdyman]

Scuff the e coat with a red scuff pad, Now both new and old are preped
Now your going to dry fit and mock up the panle. A journeyman like my self knows where to cut the new panle in the sIl panle just for mock up

[bdyman]

Yes its the dpillar or sail panle. New panel will be cut and trimmed in. I- car way
A.open but
B.lap weld
C. Open but with backing

[xXManwhoreXx]

Journeyman? More like a legend

[bdyman]

So you like all the gaps the panles is trimmed ready for the sectioning into the sIl panle, now panel bond goes on new and old mating flanged. At the lower part of the quater. Around the wheel house. And the tail light pocket

New panle will have holes already punched. Cleaned off. Ready to go on

[xXManwhoreXx]

I miss storys with mexicans

[bdyman]

I use sheet metal screws and clamps to hold the panle in place
Weld and weld. Panel bond takes 24 hours to cure. Donttouch it until then

[bdyman]

Yes as do i manwhore

[wombatslayer]

O.o the hell I'm doing that. Haha I hate body work. But I'll be happy to let someone else do it. And for my uncles car, he didn't get that massive piece that were talking about. Although it looks like he would have. Not to mention I don't have that kind of money... He's giving me a pretty good deal on it. I know him pretty well, he restores cars for a living.

[bdyman]

So. Thats kinda what it takes to replace a quater panle. Then we blend the deck lid and the drivers side door.

Total cost will be around 2,000. No more rust. All fixed

Its not easy at all. I have seenmany apprentices just fucking destroy new panles. So leave it to the pros like me

[bdyman]

O.o the hell I'm doing that. Haha I hate body work. But I'll be happy to let someone else do it. And for my uncles car, he didn't get that massive piece that were talking about. Although it looks like he would have. Not to mention I don't have that kind of money... He's giving me a pretty good deal on it. I know him pretty well, he restores cars for a living.

As do i. Restore custom painter and collision tech anda fabricator
Keep in mind ya get what ya pay for in the trade

[wombatslayer]

well doing that definitely isn't going to make it worse. lol anythings better than what it is now.

[zman246]

I hate to be the bodyman nazi but I've got to give my 2 cents..

I'm sure you can still get replacements but theres a few things to remember- cheap aftermarket replacements rarely fit well. Sometimes they take pushing, cutting, and shaving to get on the car. Some people will charge you more to do that. The 2 shops I've worked for charge 2 to 3 grand per side to replace quarters and paint and that doesn't include any further rust repair. Sure you can get it done for cheaper (those cheap prices are probably just for welding in a patch) but just realize that you get what you pay for. That kind of repair isn't recommended and probably won't be warrantied so when you're having problems in a year you're just out of luck. The rust you can see is only the tip of the iceberg. When I took the ground effects off mine there was a ton of rust underneath that I couldn't see with them on. If you've got visible rust above the moldings then it might be seriously bad under those things. The salty water just sits under those things and f's your car up.

Not sayin don't do it, just know what you're getting into. And absolutely don't try to do it yourself :P

Good luck man

[zzyzzx]

the quarter panels on my car are rusting to nothing..

Pics?

[wombatslayer]

Yeah. I'll post them tonight

[wombatslayer]

http://carphotos2.cardomain.com/images/0016/82/06/16102860_large.jpg

a little late.... looks terrible.

[xXManwhoreXx]

dont make me post a picture of my rust.... i wish mine looked that good

[zzyzzx]

I have seen worse:
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36404

[WIALERO]

Wish mine was like that lol mines actually gone i was just gunna cut the rest of the rust and weld a new peice there its really bad on the driver side but on the passanger side its not bad at all but i also got some undercoating along the bottom strip of my car if u can see in my pic works good to :) besides the one side....