My 1/4 mile times. [Archive]

sleepyalero

07-24-2013, 11:54 PM

Well this thread will be for my 1/4 mile times, i will update the first page to tell where my new times are in the thread so no one has to dig.

Page 1 - July 24, 2013 track times.
Page 4 - August 14, 2013 track times.

Well, went to the track with the car for the first time ever. Still need to get used to launching on the strip, fastest run was a 15.1 with a .3xx RT, gas tank was almost on E, and i wheel hopped like a SOB out the hole. So once i go a few more times i can get it down better, but heres slips in order. First 2, almost on E, second 2 times, was running a 1/4 tank.

Oh best RT was is on last slip, .134 :D first slip was my first time ever going down the track, so i suffered a .6xx RT.

But heres track slip times, after that ill post some cars i saw there as well.

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/5C110A21-762A-4426-909D-18673C0FE3AC-1783-0000016F9E06EACE_zpsc9ba2bd6.jpg
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/052D3E2F-5623-41B5-A7D9-F7CDEDA35AAC-1783-0000016FA32D57CC_zps4753d8c7.jpg
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/BCB94EA0-ABBC-47F8-BB1A-4F1B52C3FE37-1783-0000016FA783ACE0_zps42abf829.jpg
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/085889A5-0D54-434C-A02A-D89BA5A52AF9-1783-0000016FAB9E1363_zps304af751.jpg

And for cars...

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/CD3BBE61-5A4B-4A9A-9C10-F5BBC0990132-1783-0000013526523734_zps27f4a72c.jpg
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/C9C92277-977E-423C-8B51-142381EB148D-1783-00000171A3977301_zps9c46311c.jpg

Copo camaro

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/3E0986F7-F5B3-4AE3-B73D-93E5E5BFAA28-1783-00000171AD01E9D2_zps52078e86.jpg
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/6C563DCC-2EB4-4A66-9255-F6E66F7F20C3-1783-00000171B1D48FFE_zpsab39a69b.jpg
http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/0E9A3FCC-F70F-41D1-A276-88C6B6DA2DA7-1783-00000171BB53BBBB_zps3931e772.jpg

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/09485008-8B4C-4BB4-B2B7-AB141A3608BF-1783-00000171C0160720_zps893d176a.jpg

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/FCDB3384-45A6-4F58-8F7A-46317DACFBF8-1783-00000171CD0C4E69_zps51fbc074.jpg

Well enjoy. Hoping for better times next time.

xXManwhoreXx

07-25-2013, 12:03 AM

Wow man pretty good time!!!! I woupd prob be in the 14s if that's what your runnin lol

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 12:25 AM

Lol your car is basically stock, take it to track bet it does 15.6 or so ;)

AleroB888

07-25-2013, 01:11 AM

Very impressive! Congrats! The tranny is really doing it's job. What rpm did you launch at? Looks like you might need some slicks

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 01:59 AM

Very impressive! Congrats! The tranny is really doing it's job. What rpm did you launch at? Looks like you might need some slicks

Well, i was jumping around trying to get a feel for it since these 4 passes are the first time ive been on a track, the fastest time i launched at around 1500 or so... And got MASSIVE wheel hop out the hole. But strangly ran the fastest time. First one was about 1800, then 3rd i believe was 1300 or so. Then the last i did kinda like i was pulling out of a stop light.

Slicks are an idea. Im sure i could launch the car better around 1500-1800 rpm if i slipped the clutch a little more to prevent the wheel hop out of the hole. Sadly, with so many people there i only got to do 4 passes. So not much room to investigate fully with everything, on the street i can launch pretty well. But this crazy pavement has me trying to find the best way to launch nicely.

Looks like a stock 3400 alero will do a 15.9... I would think with my mods and my tune i would be in the high 14's but maybe its just me. Im sure i could get it in the 14.9 if i got angood launch and my tank was on E again. Slicks would also be beneficial.

Edit: did some digging, since im running baer brakes. And really dont want to swap brakes for drag judt to run a 16 or 15 inch wheel with DR's or slicks, i fogure my best option for now is 2 17" rims for the front and a pair of Nitto NT555R extreme drag radials.... Thoughts?

02AleroGLS

07-25-2013, 09:28 AM

Sadly ive only ran my alero on the 1/8th mile track and the fastest i can get is 10.250. I feel like it runs slower in the 1/8th with the headers

JLw7123

07-25-2013, 10:24 AM

wow not bad sleepy. Also 02AleroGLS did you get a tune after you installed the headers.

jackal2000

07-25-2013, 12:38 PM

All that work for a 15.2 lol I feel your pain.

AleroB888

07-25-2013, 12:44 PM

..........

Edit: did some digging, since im running baer brakes. And really dont want to swap brakes for drag judt to run a 16 or 15 inch wheel with DR's or slicks, i fogure my best option for now is 2 17" rims for the front and a pair of Nitto NT555R extreme drag radials.... Thoughts?

This one looks good on paper:

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr299/Gflash01/hoosierdr_zps9b92fdd5.jpg

cavedewler

07-25-2013, 02:31 PM

Not bad for a beginner right?

03Sleepr

07-25-2013, 02:40 PM

What did you shift at? Get some smaller wheels and slicks and go break 14s..

3800l67gam

07-25-2013, 03:02 PM

My car stock runs an 11.32 in the 1/8th but when I put my cold air intake on it ran a 10.350 now with my turbo cam I run almost into the 9's but I can't find the slip

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 03:08 PM

All that work for a 15.2 lol I feel your pain.

15.1 ;) im not to worried. The car will run most likely 11's one day :) plus it wheel hopped on me quite a bit. Once i get launch down im sure i can trap a better time.

This one looks good on paper:

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr299/Gflash01/hoosierdr_zps9b92fdd5.jpg

There we go! Just need 2 though. :)

Looks like it will be 439$ for 2, just have to find 2 17inch wheels for the front as well that will fit the tire.

What did you shift at? Get some smaller wheels and slicks and go break 14s..

I want to mainly leave it the way it is other thrn front slicks because i want to see what it runs on the track as the car is when driven on street.

I shifted at 5800

Redog

07-25-2013, 06:11 PM

You shifted way too high.

14's are there, the only time I hit 90+ in the 1/4 was when I hit 14's as well.

.134 rt for a first timer is unheard of, great job :eek:

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 06:20 PM

You shifted way too high.

14's are there, the only time I hit 90+ in the 1/4 was when I hit 14's as well.

.134 rt for a first timer is unheard of, great job :eek:

What would you shift at?

Thanks on the RT! :)

02AleroGLS

07-25-2013, 06:42 PM

No i never did get another tune cause i dont have 3 weeks worth of down time to wait for. My pcm to come back again. I lost alot of throttle response and ALOT of gas mileage with the headers.

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 06:50 PM

Odd, i have great TR... And have full exhaust from heads back. Maybe you got a low ball tune.

jawa

07-25-2013, 07:22 PM

try running your stock wheels, i shaved almost a full second by doing so, bigger wheels means more weight, the less rotating mass the better

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 07:57 PM

I dont have stock wheels nor would they fit most likely with my 13" baer rotors

02AleroGLS

07-25-2013, 08:22 PM

Im headed to the 1/8th mile track now too test again

Redog

07-25-2013, 08:45 PM

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 09:06 PM

13 inch rotors require 17 inch wheels.

I'm not too sure about the shift points. 5800 is way too high, I'd say around 5 grand, maybe 5200 or so. After a certain point in the RPM scale, the car stops making power and starts to fall off.

Spinning off the line? Those 60' are pretty bad. On a hot day when Redog is turning a 15.6 it's getting those kinds of 60's My best 60 was 2.09

Yeah i wheel hopped on like 3/4 launches lol. And okay ill try shifting a little lower next time.

Plus it spins/chirps a little going into second gear.

It was 73* out, last run it was about 67*.

I hopped mostly through 1st gear, but i didnt let out, yet ran my fastest time of a 15.1

Redog

07-25-2013, 09:23 PM

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 09:31 PM

Once your spinning, forget about a good time, doesn't matter what you do.

73 and 67 are real good temps for racing, what was the humidity and baro pressure. The lower the baro pressure, the denser the air, the fast run times. 30.00 is "sea level" baro pressure.

Yeah your going to need "racing" tires. I'm going to be picking up Connti DWS in stock size. Only $124 a tire and rated number 2 in the catagory

Yeah i cant really help the second gear chirp. Lol maybe better tires will help for track, im looking at what b888 suggested on page 1. Hoosier drag radial tires, with 17" rims.

As for humidity and all, im not so sure, i didnt check that.

02AleroGLS

07-25-2013, 10:25 PM

Ok im at the track and the first run i ran was a 10.379 @ 69.27mph with a .7537 RT. 2nd run was 10.329 @ 69.71mph with a .5715 RT.

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 10:49 PM

Work on them RT's!

jawa

07-25-2013, 10:52 PM

work on dat wheel hop

02AleroGLS

07-25-2013, 11:00 PM

It bogs really bad from 0-15mph then it picks up.

sleepyalero

07-25-2013, 11:17 PM

work on dat wheel hop

Drag tires needed

It bogs really bad from 0-15mph then it picks up.

Spinning?

Redog

07-25-2013, 11:54 PM

http://rlv.zcache.com/its_a_human_sleeping_in_the_tree_card-rae7f92f08cde4163934698d49d990018_xvuak_8byvr_512. jpg

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 12:03 AM

Wut

tw0123

07-26-2013, 12:09 AM

^^ lmao... talking about the other guys almost 1 second RT...

02AleroGLS

07-26-2013, 12:10 AM

No its not spinning. Its like not enough torque

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 12:21 AM

^^ lmao... talking about the other guys almost 1 second RT...

Oh yeah lol

No its not spinning. Its like not enough torque

You need a new tune, and not from mpracing...

02AleroGLS

07-26-2013, 12:35 AM

Where should I get it from ?

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 12:37 AM

Milzy or wot tech

02AleroGLS

07-26-2013, 01:40 AM

Ok would they allow me to use my pcm to let them tune? Jw

Redog

07-26-2013, 02:54 AM

They will send you a new PCM with a tune, then you send them your old one. You have to pay a core charge

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 02:55 AM

^ bingo

Redog

07-26-2013, 03:02 AM

Ok im at the track and the first run i ran was a 10.379 @ 69.27mph with a .7537 RT. 2nd run was 10.329 @ 69.71mph with a .5715 RT.

http://rlv.zcache.com/its_a_human_sleeping_in_the_tree_card-rae7f92f08cde4163934698d49d990018_xvuak_8byvr_512. jpg

Wut

^^ lmao... talking about the other guys almost 1 second RT...

Oh yeah lol

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR-yXMlQnnZf6-Q-Y1lVM1syKFjEFAy4zUNxGcX-mQMURQtaTmAVghttp://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT6d2GIl2WpG4O1ZpGT5g7sAm3vGCDEP BvmAzhVu8_Dmxv702AqdQ

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 04:03 AM

Shut up ken! :lol:

Cliff8928

07-26-2013, 04:13 AM

i wheel hopped like a SOB out the hole. So once i go a few more times i can get it down better.

What material are your engine and trans mounts? Poly ones could help here. Also the control arm bushings can be upgraded to poly to reduce some of the flex under acceleration.

I shifted at 5800

Well, you want to pay attention to your RPM you're landing in the next gear. If you're shifting at 5800 in first to second, you're ending up at around 3000 after the shift? Not necessarily that bad, peak torque is around 4000 RPM.

02AleroGLS

07-26-2013, 10:13 AM

xXManwhoreXx

07-26-2013, 11:35 AM

You guys have to remenber milzy tuned his car. The factory torque curve many be extended

jackal2000

07-26-2013, 12:20 PM

Ok would they allow me to use my pcm to let them tune? Jw

I have an old pcm I will sell you as a core if you want.

jackal2000

07-26-2013, 12:23 PM

You guys have to remenber milzy tuned his car. The factory torque curve many be extended

Unless he has different cam the torque curve didn't go anywhere. I set my WOT shift points at 6200rpm with milzy's stage 2 cam.

mfuller

07-26-2013, 01:32 PM

He is shifting maybe a tad high. Stock cam, I'd shift maybe 5500-5600, as the power peak is around 5100. Better tires will help.

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 04:11 PM

What material are your engine and trans mounts? Poly ones could help here. Also the control arm bushings can be upgraded to poly to reduce some of the flex under acceleration.

Well, you want to pay attention to your RPM you're landing in the next gear. If you're shifting at 5800 in first to second, you're ending up at around 3000 after the shift? Not necessarily that bad, peak torque is around 4000 RPM.

Its about 3000 or so after shifting around there i think? Cant rember (just woke up literally 2 min ago) i can verify later for sure.

Engine and trans mounts from my understanding, are a better material (stiffer) then poly bushings. Yeah i was reading last night that poly pushings can help on wheel hop. A slick could really help as well. But i cant find a slick in 17" that will fit. So i have to stick with a DR tire.

Hey my reaction times were bad cause i was nervous cause they kept lining me up against fast cars lol. I asked about using my pcm.cause i have 2 of them. The factory stock pcm and the one from mpracing.

Dont be nervous, who cares about the big guys. Worry about you.

He is shifting maybe a tad high. Stock cam, I'd shift maybe 5500-5600, as the power peak is around 5100. Better tires will help.

Going home last night i did a few pulls on country roads (alone) shifting at 5500, ill have to try that at the track.

mfuller

07-26-2013, 06:26 PM

Engine and trans mounts from my understanding, are a better material (stiffer) then poly bushings.
It's Delrin. Basically an engineering thermoplastic.

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 06:29 PM

Thanks matt :)

What he said!

Redog

07-26-2013, 07:53 PM

Hey my reaction times were bad cause i was nervous cause they kept lining me up against fast cars lol. I asked about using my pcm.cause i have 2 of them. The factory stock pcm and the one from mpracing.

That's your first problem, you have to have a zen like approach.

On one of my point days in June, they has 2 GM only classes so I ran my points class and "GM Trophy" class (it was cheaper than GM Money class and I'm not THAT good)

My Delta is slower than slow, dialed at a 18.76 that day. Pulled a 79 Malibu with a BBC, from NYC, car was running 11's.

As soon as we were paired, he was revving his engine acting all big and bad. I ingorned his ass. He kept doing it acting like this POS, high 18's, Delta shouldn't be here. I actually thought he was going to blow the motor that how much he was revving.

Lights drop for me, I cut my best light of the day, .017, I'm at about half track and he was still revving until his tree started to drop. He launched, I could see his bottom end, and here he comes, and at the finish line, I hit the brakes at about the 1200' mark, crossed the finish line in the low 19's with a mid 60's MPH, then he passes me. :awesome:

Douchebag actually pulls up next to me, calling me all sorts of names, ripping on my car and I say this "Enjoy the turnpike home, first rounder, and let everybody know that a Philly boy kicked your ass." (New Yorkers, more so from the city of NY, hate us Philly people, so we hate them back)

He sped off. :awesome: :lol:

Bottom line, don't care what the other car does. He may be faster, he may be slower. Watch your tree, Mash the gas when the third amber comes on, and just go.

02AleroGLS

07-26-2013, 08:39 PM

Yeah thats one way to look at it lol its just nerve racking when that happens

sleepyalero

07-26-2013, 09:32 PM

Out of my 4 runs i got beat by the car beside me. Raced a dokota that was pretty fast, and a colbolt ss, got him on launch but he blew by me and rand a 14.0xx :( other 2 i dont remember what i raced. But i just worry about me, who cares bout the other cars. I was there to get times, not race.

02AleroGLS

07-26-2013, 10:06 PM

Yeah i have a hard time not getting intimidated when they line me up next to like a z28 or somethin lol! The 2nd lap time was me racing me in his mitsubishi diamante.

Redog

07-26-2013, 11:28 PM

You have to shake that

02AleroGLS

07-26-2013, 11:34 PM

Yeah i really do. I wanna make this car fast so bad but i just dont know where to wisely put my money.

sleepyalero

07-27-2013, 05:04 AM

Everywhere. You want serious power... Boost it

Nas Escobar

07-27-2013, 05:58 AM

I dont have stock wheels nor would they fit most likely with my 13" baer rotors

Get aluminum/alloy wheels. They're a lot lighter than the chrome ones you have now. That's really your problem. I never bought rims for my cars because I can never find anything lighter than my stock wheels that didn't look tacky.

jawa

07-27-2013, 10:03 AM

those bigass brakes might be part of the issue aswell

xXManwhoreXx

07-27-2013, 10:54 AM

Matt and kyle both have non tacky wheels that are are super light.

Matt has kosei k1s and kyle has sime wedsports

sleepyalero

07-27-2013, 02:28 PM

Get aluminum/alloy wheels. They're a lot lighter than the chrome ones you have now. That's really your problem. I never bought rims for my cars because I can never find anything lighter than my stock wheels that didn't look tacky.

My 18s are 2 lbs lighter per wheel then my 16s.

mfuller

07-27-2013, 02:44 PM

My 18s are 2 lbs lighter per wheel then my 16s.
Are you referring to your old American Racing wheels? Because my OEM 16" alloys were less than 17 pounds each...I kinda doubt your 18" wheels are lighter than that.
Rule of thumb is that a "light" wheel weighs 1 pound per inch of diameter.
What do your 18s weigh?

sleepyalero

07-27-2013, 03:06 PM

Are you referring to your old American Racing wheels? Because my OEM 16" alloys were less than 17 pounds each...I kinda doubt your 18" wheels are lighter than that.
Rule of thumb is that a "light" wheel weighs 1 pound per inch of diameter.
What do your 18s weigh?

Yes my AR wheels. Never had stock wheels with my car. My uncle bent 2 of em hitting a pothole back when he owned the car, so thats why my car came with the AR wheels

AR estrellas 16" - 20.44lbs

MSR 18" - 18.90lbs ship weight.

Thats weight for just rims, no tires added on.

3800l67gam

07-27-2013, 04:32 PM

Unless he has different cam the torque curve didn't go anywhere. I set my WOT shift points at 6200rpm with milzy's stage 2 cam.

What's all In the tune in your PCM

AleroB888

07-27-2013, 09:47 PM

What's your 1st gear ratio? I was trying to figure that out vs. the stock automatic, w/stall speed figured in.... help me out here, Matt. lol

sleepyalero

07-27-2013, 10:00 PM

What's your 1st gear ratio? I was trying to figure that out vs. the stock automatic, w/stall speed figured in.... help me out here, Matt. lol

2005-06 G6 6 Speed

MT2/F40
axle ratio 3.55

1st 3.77

2nd 2.04

3rd 1.32

4th .95

5th .76

6th .62

jawa

07-28-2013, 12:44 AM

my stokers weighed 34 with tire my 18s are 42 with tire

3800l67gam

07-28-2013, 06:02 PM

Everywhere. You want serious power... Boost it

When you goiing to freaking turbo your alero lol:p

sleepyalero

07-28-2013, 06:16 PM

When you goiing to freaking turbo your alero lol:p

When i have 25 grand lol

AleroB888

07-28-2013, 07:04 PM

When i have 25 grand lol

haha, pretty funny....

relocate your battery now, or nobody will ever take your turbo thread seriously

sleepyalero

07-28-2013, 07:39 PM

haha, pretty funny....

relocate your battery now, or nobody will ever take your turbo thread seriously

Not worried about the battery now. But since were on topic, where would i get the relocation kit?

jawa

07-28-2013, 07:58 PM

make one

Nas Escobar

07-29-2013, 12:18 AM

Are you referring to your old American Racing wheels? Because my OEM 16" alloys were less than 17 pounds each...I kinda doubt your 18" wheels are lighter than that.
Rule of thumb is that a "light" wheel weighs 1 pound per inch of diameter.
What do your 18s weigh?

This.... its always a good idea to try to keep the weight of the wheel (with no tyre) to the size of it or less.

Not worried about the battery now. But since were on topic, where would i get the relocation kit?

You have to make you own kit. You need a battery box, some 2 or 4 gauge wiring, new battery terminals and a new battery... this would be a good time to convert the battery to top posts if you want. I prefer it since it's easier to add the wiring than in a side post set up.

sleepyalero

07-29-2013, 12:28 AM

Thanks ill look into it.

3800l67gam

07-31-2013, 01:02 PM

When i have 25 grand lol

Lol I Am starting from scratch with my turbo kit.

sleepyalero

07-31-2013, 02:11 PM

Lol I Am starting from scratch with my turbo kit.

Go ahead, its high stakes for me.

sleepyalero

08-14-2013, 09:31 PM

Wednesday, August 14th 2013.

At the track, so far i have not beat my best time as last time (15.1) but for my second time at the track i have gotten great RT's.

So far best slip is...

Car #8

Dial ...
R/T ... .022
60'. ... 2.534
330 ... 6.610
1/8 ... 10.009
MPH ... 72.48
1000 ... 12.904

ET - 15.391
MPH - 90.22

Now on the passes tonight i havent been launching it hard, got one pass to go before track shuts down, gonna try and make it a good one.

Good thing on not launching hard, done like 8 passes and no wheel hop.

But for second time at track im very happy with a .022 rt, also got another rt of .090 :)

jawa

08-14-2013, 10:02 PM

i run the same ET but my MPH is 95 ish

sleepyalero

08-14-2013, 10:39 PM

My best was 15.1 at 87 mph

Well last run i got a 15.25 at 91 mph flat.

Need slickz yo

AleroB888

08-14-2013, 10:58 PM

You need to start keeping records of the track conditions, tire psi, IAT, ECT and all that. Best of all, get something to datalog the runs, HP Tuners is invaluable at this point.

If you ran 9 runs, that means you probably were not getting enough cool-down time. No doubt if you run on a cooler day, where the high is 65 degrees or so, it will run a 14.9xxx. with a good cool-down. iirc, ORP did not have a source of water for cooling, so that makes it tougher.

sleepyalero

08-14-2013, 11:10 PM

Yeah money is tight atm but hpt is in the near future. High today was 74, last pass was 66 degrees out. Which i ran a 15.2... But yes i have no way to track iat and all that. Plus the ses light came on during a pass, gotta replace map sensor.

Two pics

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/78792709-EDF1-403C-8FAA-408BCCB43702-1181-0000008CA0D1952E_zps38302b14.jpg

Fisdad came!

http://i921.photobucket.com/albums/ad58/natesalero/FDEBE8B2-F468-4EC6-93EA-55E3E63BE0CF-1181-0000008CA840FB20_zpsc03fa37b.jpg

sleepyalero

08-15-2013, 04:34 AM

Page 1 edited, this thread will be used for all my 1/4 mile time updates, yesterday i fluxuated from 15.2 - 15.6 ... The 15.6 was my bad because i was sitting, waiting for a chrysler 200 to stage and he was taking for ever, my luck i looked away for a sec from the tree, once i looked back the 200 already took off... Fk. So my first run suffered a 15.6 but, from there on it was constant 15.2-15.4's.

Anyway stay tuned for more. :)

Best RT's last night is .022 .090 .117 :)

Oh dont know if i updated, but best run of the night was a 15.25 at 91mph flat. (To lazy to look at last page)

And my ses light came on on my.... 4th pass? Ran to autozone after the track, bad map sensot, so i replaced that after the track.

Made a total of 7 passes, only got 6 tickets though because they messed up on one of them so im very curious what i ran on that "missing" slip. Guess ill never know.