Tire and rim size +1

[negolien]

Hey All,

Thin king of spending most of my refund on rims and tires. I was hoping to go +1 up to a 17" rim and tire. My question is...

Will a 17" rim and a 225/50/17 fit without any rubbing on the 2001 Alero GLS sedan.

[S8track16]

I currently have 17s on 205/50/17 and they don't rub. I think it also depends on the rims (i.e. offset, spacing)

[mfuller]

It might be very close but I can't say for sure.
Staying with a 50 series tire on a 17 inch rim might put the tire too close to the lower spring perch on the strut.

[negolien]

17x7.5 - 42 offset / 72.6 hub so maybe good idea to go with 45's?

[[ion] C2]

225/50 is what I use on a 17x7.5 wheel with +42mm offset. It works fine.

[negolien]

ty

[sleepyalero]

I currently have 17s on 205/50/17 and they don't rub. I think it also depends on the rims (i.e. offset, spacing)

Why do you have such a small tire? They came stock with 225.

[S8track16]

Why do you have such a small tire? They came stock with 225.

I think I answered this before but I bought the tires and rims together and haven't changed them yet. They were from a cobalt.

[negolien]

I seen the ones I want with 225 and 215 both 45 and 50. Just not sure about the 45's won't that be a little to low pro? Don't want to be bending the new rims lol. Firestone is having a sale thinking of getting the firehawks..

http://www.firestonecompleteautocare.com/tirecatalog/Firestone/FirehawkWideovalAS/

[sleepyalero]

Ahh now I know

[[ion] C2]

not sure about the 45's won't that be a little to low pro?
No it's plenty fine. I had 225/45 for years. Recently changed to 225/50 because it looks better, fills things up a bit more to close the gap in the wheel well. Preference.

[negolien]

any thoughts on these rims in 17...can't afford anything super special but with the firehawks I think these would look ok I run the gold alero. Also what's the deal with the caps? They have one for sale for a little extra but don't say or show what the difference is?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=V41771340C&wheelMake=Verde&wheelModel=Regency&wheelFinish=Chrome+Plated&showRear=no&autoMake=Oldsmobile&autoModel=Alero+GLS+Sedan&autoYear=2001&autoModClar=&filterFinish=Chrome%2FPVD&filterSize=17&filterBrand=Verde&filterSpecial=false&filterNew=All&filterWeight=All&sort=PriceR

[MMGT1]

I ran 235/45/17 and had no problems

[Alerojester]

im running 225/40/18's and I have about a half inch between the bottom of the strut and my tire, the only issue I have right now is there's WAY too much space between the fender and the top of the tire so I'm thinking about dropping it about an inch to an inch and a half

[sleepyalero]

any thoughts on these rims in 17...can't afford anything super special but with the firehawks I think these would look ok I run the gold alero. Also what's the deal with the caps? They have one for sale for a little extra but don't say or show what the difference is?

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=V41771340C&wheelMake=Verde&wheelModel=Regency&wheelFinish=Chrome+Plated&showRear=no&autoMake=Oldsmobile&autoModel=Alero+GLS+Sedan&autoYear=2001&autoModClar=&filterFinish=Chrome%2FPVD&filterSize=17&filterBrand=Verde&filterSpecial=false&filterNew=All&filterWeight=All&sort=PriceR

Those are ghetto fabulous.....


I cant stress this enough to people who put wheels on these cars. GET A SPORTY WHEEL!

[03glgold]

I think the gold looks best with black or gun metal...i think that to a certain extent my chrome wheeels make the car too bright

[S8track16]

I really want to get some Rota Grids in a gunmetal color.

[S8track16]

C2;652039']225/50 is what I use on a 17x7.5 wheel with +42mm offset. It works fine.

Do you know if a 9.5 inch rim would fit on the alero if the offset was around 0?

[negolien]

Those are ghetto fabulous.....


I cant stress this enough to people who put wheels on these cars. GET A SPORTY WHEEL!

What do you mean by Sporty? I am not trying to put 24's on it and look ghetto either. Just isn't very many rim shops online and there wasn't a ton of choices for me on tire rack.

[03glgold]

in 30 seconds i found one that is better and costs less than that one
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/WheelCloseUpServlet?target=runWheelSearch&initialPartNumber=AR90378015338BMF&wheelMake=American+Racing&wheelModel=AR903&wheelFinish=Machined+w%2FBlack+Accent&showRear=no&autoMake=Oldsmobile&autoModel=Alero+GL+Sedan&autoYear=2003&autoModClar=&filterFinish=All&filterSize=All&filterBrand=All&filterSpecial=false&filterNew=All&filterWeight=All&sort=Brand

[negolien]

well that's in your opinion/shrug I liked the other one from that site.

[03glgold]

if you went with the black it would be a bit better still not great, but I would never even touch the chrome ones...in the end it is your car so get what you like, but be sure it will look good on your car because what looks good on its own might not look so great once it has the car sitting on it

[negolien]

Thanks I will keep looking could you explain what you dislike about chrome? Just not wanting to spend 1K on rims that are plain jane and don't look better than the stock one.

[negolien]

Thanks for the web links got a lot more choices now. These aren't bad for my taste.
I hate the extra lug nut holes though.

http://www.carid.com/maxxim-wheels/ferris-black-machined-467678.html

[03glgold]

I have a gold one as well and currently have the flat spoke chrome gls wheels and the chrome makes the car appear too light in color...I like chrome on some things but don't think it goes with the gold.

[[ion] C2]

Do you know if a 9.5 inch rim would fit on the alero if the offset was around 0?

Well since my wheels sit about flush with the fender... that combination will make you poke over 2.5 inches out, which, apart from looking silly, your tires will definitely collide with the fender and bumper up front when you turn the wheel left or right.

If anyone needs any other comparisons let me know.

http://evilhare.com/ns/offsets.jpg

[guiguilandry]

the biggest and widest you can go on an alero IF you have a drop is what I have... 255/30zr19 on a 19 x 8,5 34mm offset... it does not rub or scrape... and I have about 3 in drop from my coilovers...

[tw0123]

I can vouch the rub of bigger... i had a set of 20's with 245/40/20 tires... not 100% on the offset but i had to use a 1" spacer on the rear to clear the lower spring perch...however, they rubber on the rear fender when i went over bumps til i rolled the fender... for some reason the front only rubber by about 1/4" but only when the tires were warm... they never rubbed the fender when i turned though... i was also lowered 1.2" on eibach's...

[[ion] C2]

the biggest and widest you can go on an alero IF you have a drop is what I have... 255/30zr19 on a 19 x 8,5 34mm offset... it does not rub or scrape... and I have about 3 in drop from my coilovers...
yeah i had 28mm spacers on the front with my 7.5" +42 wheels and they rubbed when turning. your combination makes it similar to me having 21mm spacers which would likely clear fine.

http://evilhare.com/ns/175185.jpg

[S8track16]

Thanks ion, I find that my current rims sit inside the fender quite a bit now and would like to get some new ones to make it a bit more flush.

[03glgold]

if you like the rims and don't already have them you could do some spacers

[negolien]

Anyone know what style ASA rims these are?

http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&sa=N&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbnid=6AUCGpd3QGk8AM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.9thgencorolla.com%2Ffor um%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D1245145&docid=7zScudjpdvrcnM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi37.tinypic.com%2Fdsdhl.jpg&w=1600&h=1066&ei=tosLU4f1N8aCogSeuYGgCA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=242&page=1&start=0&ndsp=23&ved=0CJEBEK0DMBM

[sleepyalero]

ASA model AR9

http://wheelworx.com.au/asa_wheels.html


Good luck finding a set. I think they might be discontinued. Tried finding a site selling them. Came up short. .. only things I saw sellomg was bimmer forums, acura forums, saab forun etc...

[[ion] C2]

Probably "Asa AR9 with spoke Inserts Machined w/Anthracite Accent & Carbon Fiber" like the image description says on the sidebar even though the site is down

[negolien]

Hum now to find some for sale lol

[Redog]

225/45/17

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[S8track16]

One more question, my rims are 17x7 with 42mm offset. Would 235/45/17 tires work? I found a new set of Hercules Raptis tires for around $90 each.

[[ion] C2]

yeah 235/45 makes them about the same overall diameter as 225/50, the width/offset is fine too

[negolien]

C2;652120']Probably "Asa AR9 with spoke Inserts Machined w/Anthracite Accent & Carbon Fiber" like the image description says on the sidebar even though the site is down

Meh discountinued :cry:

[kwhauck]

225/45/17

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255/40/17

now, end thread.....

[negolien]

Meh decided to just go with cheap tires for now and use the rest of my Tax return for my Audio upgrade. I got some Primewell 225/50/16's from Firestone for $371 installed. Took it in Saturday at 11am went to lunch with the old lady and by the time We got back it was done. Rode ok on the way home I will give more of an update Monday afternoon after the drive to work. My original tires had been cracked super badly due to 18 months of sitting so kind of a safety issue not to mention my lack of a spare due to audio equipment lol.

[kwhauck]

Well that's dumb.........

[negolien]

What's dumb not spending $800 on rims that are no better than my stock ones and getting tires for under $400 installed? :eek:

[03glgold]

I believe he is referring to the audio thing, particularly not having a spare...I would have to agree, replacing the speakers that are in the factory location, hu, and then a small sub anything else I see as a complete waste of money as it has no purpose, there is a point where turning it up louder isn't an option without hearing damage so what is the point

[negolien]

I know alot of us have boxes in the trunk so though I have the spare in there like them getting at it would require taking the box out. It might as well not be there lol.

[negolien]

On topic the tires seem to be a decent set for the price. It was raining yesterday here and they performed great in the rain. I was expecting a harsh ride being performance tires but I was quite happy. Fairly quiet also I'd say they were a good deal for the price. They were cheaper than America's tire, Sears and Pep Boys.

[sleepyalero]

My nittos were 105 a tire from discount tire.

They are very good tires. I was shocked they were so cheap.

[S8track16]

I believe he is referring to the audio thing, particularly not having a spare...I would have to agree, replacing the speakers that are in the factory location, hu, and then a small sub anything else I see as a complete waste of money as it has no purpose, there is a point where turning it up louder isn't an option without hearing damage so what is the point

I would have to disagree. I personally like loud music and also will be using the system to compete this year.

[negolien]

Yeah I love my system and just because I have all that doesn't mean I have to turn it up all the way. That's where buying the right gear comes in. SQ is super important to me not just being loud. Though some do and I have no issue with that.Just because YOU think it's a waste of money doesn't make it so. There's a lot of things done to cars I think is a waste of money but hey it's their ride. Different strokes for different folks :coolio:

[03glgold]

I would have to disagree. I personally like loud music and also will be using the system to compete this year.
To me it is a little different if you do sound competitions because at least there is some function, not one of the people who has it just to drive down the road moving foundations.
Yeah I love my system and just because I have all that doesn't mean I have to turn it up all the way. That's where buying the right gear comes in. SQ is super important to me not just being loud. Though some do and I have no issue with that.Just because YOU think it's a waste of money doesn't make it so. There's a lot of things done to cars I think is a waste of money but hey it's their ride. Different strokes for different folks :coolio:

As long as you keep it off the 24's it won't be that bad :p

[negolien]

LOL I was thinking this morning on the way to work...Ya know what I find amazing is people that don't have AAA or other roadside assistance. I have only used it once since '07 but better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. The one time I did use it oddly enough was to change my tire for me before I got my Box. I was in a dress suit for a meeting and came out to go to work finding a flat. I didn't want to get all greasy so I called AAA and let them change it for me :rolleyes2: I'd have them tow me to a les schwab for a plug now since I can't get to my spare. I didn't even think of that until about a week after the install. I was like crap what do I do now if I get a flat...:eek:

[kwhauck]

I think it was dumb you cheaped out on tires. That is one thing I will never cheap out on.

[mfuller]

I think it was dumb you cheaped out on tires. That is one thing I will never cheap out on.
On a related note, I heard a news story yesterday that Jeep sales have been really strong because of all the snow we've had this winter.
That is the dumbest reason I've ever heard for taking on the financial burden of a new car. I live in northern Illinois, not Colorado or somewhere where you actually need a 4-wheel drive vehicle.
Spend $1000 on a dedicated set of winter tires, slap them on your car in the cold months, and you'll still be much better than any vehicle (including Jeeps) on all-seasons. And you likely won't take the fuel economy hit inherent with 4WD/AWD.
My point here? It all starts with tires. Those 4 little patches of rubber are all that's keeping you and 3000+ pounds of metal on the road and in control.
Think about it.

[negolien]

There's nothing wrong with Primewells they are fine tires don't be a brand snob. For $59 a piece They'll do fine for my 24 mile round trip commuter in Sacramento, Nice jerk wad post though.

[03glgold]

he is correct to a point though...even though they might be cheaper now in the long run maybe not...my previous set of tires was a cheap set and almost all highway with regular rotation they didnt last 20k miles and it wasn't caused because of poor alignment or anything they were completely bald all the way across.

[negolien]

I commute 12 miles one way on surface streets and hardly ever go on the freeway. It doesn't snow here and barely rains. I rarely go over 55 and they're warrantied for 40k miles /shrug good enough for me. For $59 vs $104 for some name brand I' am good with that. If they wear out in 3 years I'll get another 4 it will probably work out to be the same price anyway lol.

http://www.firestonecompleteautocare.com/tirecatalog/Primewell/PZ900/

[[ion] C2]

Those 4 little patches of rubber are all that's keeping you and 3000+ pounds of metal on the road and in control.

This guy gets it.