Burnout Questions

[MartinT]

When I do my burnouts I always use the E-Brake and my car still drags a lil' but I'm pretty sure both fronts are spinning (I can do doughnuts too). When I get off the E-Brake though it's like it's kind of stuck with the E-Brake on. I know it's still slightly engaged because I lose speed REALLY fast... which can't be good for the brake. What should I do about this if anything? Also, what else can I do to improve my burnouts?

Please don't post saying stuff like "Burnouts are bad for your car, don't do them"...

Thanks for the help guys :thumbsup:

[MikeSS]

Since you are dragging the ass end of your car while doing burnouts, you are probably over heating your E-brake, thus making it seize up. Happened to my Safari van when my dad drove it and didn't know i had the E-brake on.

When I burnout at the drag strip in the water box, I redline so fast in 1st gear (I have 5-speed) that by the time I am in 2nd gear, my ass end is dragging too. I usually time it to release the e-brake right when this starts to happen. I see auto Grand ams and aleros do killer burnouts, I guess I just haven't mastered it with my Manual yet. (plus, you don't really need to do a burnout with street tires at the track anyway)

[Vtolds]

Your Dragging becuase you have to much grip it is as simple as that. How new are your tires and do they have very sticky aggressive tread? Also if you plan on doing a burnout say at the drag strip or where ever use the water box or put some water under your tires to help break them loose. My sugeestion about your e-brake is when the alarm for the e-brake being on, let it off it is never good to drag your rear tires.

[Redog]

Try parking the rear tires over a curb or a high speed bump.

Check out the Cavy burnout thread. That guy used bleach

[Youngblood77]

Bleach is an old-school trick. It makes HELLA smoke with less wear on the tire. With-in reason, of course. ( It just starts smoking faster, is all....a long burnout STILL wears on the tire bad )

[bjensen83]

I just tried doing donuts with the e-brake on in my work parking lot for the first time, and it works very well. I will post a picture of the tire marks if i get the balls to stand over my work with a camera. lol. I wanted to get videos, but we didn't bring a camera the night i did it. My tires are completly bald though. they have 1/16" tread left on them, so they're in dire need of changing. Might as well light 'em up, right? :)

[Sno]

when i do burnouts i just take my traction control off, it works pretty nicely w/out usin the ebrake, but you don't get the true "burnout" its more of a moving burnout as opposed to just sitting there spinnin your tires

[mike2002]

ha! just changed the oil, new air filter (ya, im bone stock) turned off the TC, and did a HUGE fricken burnout, no e brake or anything.....gotta love the colder, denser air :D

[ImSoBored]

youll get flat spot on your back tires from draging them.

[Wildman]

Originally posted by ImSoBored@Nov 28 2004, 08:15 PM
youll get flat spot on your back tires from draging them.
amen to that. Ive been riding around with a thumping back tire for a good while now. Not really worth locking the E-brake in my opinion, causes more trouble than the 10 seconds of joy you get out of it.

[FutureEcotecOwnerAgain]

i've got the ecotec with intake and muffler and i cant do burnouts at all with or without the ebrake. can anyone give me pointers?

[Molson]

Mike, will have to show you how in the 5 speed. I can sit there and go thru a good set of tires. :)

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by 03EcotecAlero@Dec 12 2004, 11:13 PM
i've got the ecotec with intake and muffler and i cant do burnouts at all with or without the ebrake.Â;-) can anyone give me pointers?
you serious dude? i'll show you how when i get back to clarksville.

i figured the ecotec had enough torque, but maybe not, try pulling the ebrake all the way up, holding the brake pedal, bring the rpms up to 2000, and as you release the brake, punch the gas.

[BLK03GXS]

Is your eco auto or standard? cus i have a 5spd and my car WILL NOT do a second gear burnout, the clutch isnt strong enff, and i dont have enuff power but in first it will do deacent burnouts...
I found that my ebrake bein a GM the cable streches and the wheels dont lock
Thus the car walks forward due to week ebrake

[Rubered00]

On a black top parking lot i can do some pretty descent burnouts (quite a bit of smoke) and i have fairly new tires on. Oh, thats without the back tires dragging to. Black top is just alot slicker, and when it's wet...i could do it all day long.

[FutureEcotecOwnerAgain]

my ecotec is an auto and i've tried everything to do a burnout but nothing works, maybe after a couple more mods and power i'll be able too.

[Pimpalero03]

u need that 200lbs of torque :)

[jackal2000]

Originally posted by Pimpalero03@Dec 15 2004, 11:52 AM
u need that 200lbs of torque :)
or the 160 (roughly) that gets to the wheels from a stock v6 :P

[BLK03GXS]

Originally posted by 03EcotecAlero@Dec 15 2004, 04:41 PM
my ecotec is an auto and i've tried everything to do a burnout but nothing works, maybe after a couple more mods and power i'll be able too.
My buddys sisters car eco auto cava queer did burnouts with 18inch chrome on it so your car should be able to do one.
For an auto just pull the ebrake on and stomp the gas, and turn the wheel back and forth untill the tires break loose.

[Arsonalero]

when i want to do a nice burn out, i use VHT. dont know if any of you know what it is, but its some sticky crap and it smells like cherries (seriously)

[smokinAMD]

I always was able to lay down a nice smoke screen with my old v6 alero.

I tried to dump the clutch on my mazda today, all I did was get some nasty wheel hop. Bah, Need to learn how to do a burnout in a manual without burning up the clutch.

[Sno]

how did you do it in your old alero Smokin? all i do is take the trac control off and floor it, its not a technical burnout but, i spin the tires for a few good feet

[Vtolds]

1: Gas PeddleDown to the floor with clutch in
2: Let the clutch out as fast as possible
3: (OPTIONAL) Emergency Brake up
4: Watch the smoke roll of the tires :D

[Sno]

yes, but if you have an automatic? just pull the e brake up a lil?

[Vtolds]

I was answering Smokins question really. I thought I hit the quote button but I guess not so his text isnt there about him asking how to do a standard burnout.

[Sno]

no worries m8

[smokinAMD]

I just brake torqued mine...cut the steering wheel to one side then pull it back straight fast too, then I could smoke them for a LONG time.

[Sno]

so just like a realllly fast turn, only starting out to one side, and then turning sharp back to the center while you floor it?

[ptrudel]

MAlero, i can't burnout more then 1 gear either...next meet's objective i guess :lol:

[BLK03GXS]

i Save burnouts for my Grand Am with 6.6L and 3.73gears
More effective anyways :thumbsup:

[Sno]

i spun my tires for quite a few seconds coming out of this parking lot tonight... it was slightly downhill too... just took off trac control, floored it, and i was turning too, so that prolonged the whole spinage of the tires... /me loves smell of burning rubber... mmmmmm

[Rubered00]

You gotta love that smell...they should make it in an air freshner

[Sno]

Hell, i'd buy it :thumbsup:

[Oldsman]

i have done some big burnouts with mine. it was always fun til your down to the warning thread and can't get traction in the winter.

[FormulaNERD]

it sucks when you burnout at the track (just to show off, i know it worsens traction on street tires) and even with the hvac off, all the smoke comes in your car, and your eyes start to burn and you cant see the tree :( but then you still beat an auto rx8 :)

[Sno]

hahaha, awesome story FNERD ;) i'm assuming that happened to you?

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

Originally posted by ImSoBored@Nov 28 2004, 09:15 PM
youll get flat spot on your back tires from draging them.
not with the taco bell tray trick. I haven't done this myself, but I saw a video of a dude doing it in the slush. Looks fun.

1) steal 2 trays from taco bell (or any other fast food joint)
2) park your car near where you want to do the burn out
3) place the 2 trays behind each back wheel
4) back up onto the trays so that the back wheels are pretty much in the middle of the tray
5) engage the e-brake
6) commence the burnouts!

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Dec 19 2004, 04:13 PM
it sucks when you burnout at the track (just to show off, i know it worsens traction on street tires) and even with the hvac off, all the smoke comes in your car, and your eyes start to burn and you cant see the tree :( but then you still beat an auto rx8 :)
remedy:

1) hvac stays on heat
2) fan on the first setting
3) vents pointed at your face
4) indoor air only

if you have the busted HVAC resistor (like so many of us do) the fan in the first setting takes up NO power, but you need it in the first setting to trick the A/C into thinking that it is on, so you can keep the indoor air. now you have no smoke in your car, and you can keep your windows closed.

[Youngblood77]

I agree with Rube, they should make an air freshener of burning rubber. That, and maybe one of burning Nitro Methane. B)

[Sno]

mmm yeah, a scent that will make your eyes burn! w00t! lol

[ImSoBored152]

yeah Ive heard about the tray under the back tires thing.

[kddanger]

My brother has a stock 95 s-10 It is 4.3 and came factory with a muncie five speed (put in camaro's) We switched rear ends with a four banger truck (lower gears) pulled the leafs out, and cut the front springs. This truck can burnout for entire blocks and go through the gears mutilating tires. You get used to wheel hop/ and 1 inch spring movement. Also Unplugg the airbag if your ride rides like this!!!!

P.S. I plan on buying his truck with tax returns. It needs a few bolts retorked but still halls ass and bottoms out on everthing ( we have perfected urethane bumper repair.)