B&m Shiftplus Install.

[-Alero-]

hey i just got the B&M kit, for the 3400, and i was wondering witch wires to splice into. if anyone knows please post pictures if you can. (i have the 2002)

[Vtolds]

No directions?

[-Alero-]

yeah it did, but are they correct? cause it talks about corvettes,impalas,monte carlos,camaros,trans am's........it doesnt say aything about a 3.4 from a grand am or alero. unless i follow the directions for the 1993-1995 Camaro/firebird (3.4L) and apparently i splice into the PCM!? i thought i spliced into some wires next to the exhaust manifold?

[FormulaNERD]

try using the search function... there are a few threads with pictures, that's how i installed mine.

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by Alero-@Nov 11 2004, 07:51 PM
yeah it did, but are they correct? cause it talks about corvettes,impalas,monte carlos,camaros,trans am's........it doesnt say aything about a 3.4 from a grand am or alero. unless i follow the directions for the 1993-1995 Camaro/firebird (3.4L) and apparently i splice into the PCM!? i thought i spliced into some wires next to the exhaust manifold?
yes, the tranny plug.... there is a small picture in the instructions with this plug... use the white arrow as your guide.

[-Alero-]

yeah i searched but it only had pictures for the twin cam, i belive. and in all the other topics it just talks about obtaining the shift kit, nothing about installing it.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD+Nov 11 2004, 09:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FormulaNERD @ Nov 11 2004, 09:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Alero-@Nov 11 2004, 07:51 PM
yeah it did, but are they correct? cause it talks about corvettes,impalas,monte carlos,camaros,trans am's........it doesnt say aything about a 3.4 from a grand am or alero. unless i follow the directions for the 1993-1995 Camaro/firebird (3.4L) and apparently i splice into the PCM!? i thought i spliced into some wires next to the exhaust manifold?
yes, the tranny plug.... there is a small picture in the instructions with this plug... use the white arrow as your guide. [/b][/quote]
well i obviously got the wrong instructions.......

[Redog]

Oldsman did it, find his post and the dircetions are on there.

That is what I followed

[-Alero-]

i thought he did the one for the 2.4 not the 3.4

[Redog]

It's the same wires

[FormulaNERD]

yep same wires, same tranny plug location.

[-Alero-]

you guide me in the right direction once again ken. ;)

[-Alero-]

hey can someone tell me witch wire of the shiftplus thing goes to wich wire. i can definatly identify the blue and red wire on the tranny thing. but wich wire goes to wich o nthat?

[FormulaNERD]

i believe its... red to red, black to blue

[Oldsman]

goto here and read carefully. it will give all the info and more pics are on page 2 of the how to

http://invision.aleromod.com/index.php?showtopic=401

[-Alero-]

ok i installed it but i havent tryed to drive it yet. i have to wait till tommorow. but i had one major question. did you people who installed this, have to strip the blue and red wires for the splicers? cause i didnt do that i just put them in the splicers hoping they'd splice it on thier own. :( im worried i'll have to go back and redo this, if the splicer didnt penetrate the wire insulation.

[Oldsman]

i had problems with it cutting thru the coating. so i stripped it a little and thru some solder in there so it was a good connection.

[bigd6983]

yea im still having trouble with getting a good connection, i never wanted to strip any of the wire but its looking like i might have to....

[-Alero-]

aw well SOB........all that hard work for nothing.......what about if i just wiggle the blue clip, up and down,for a while so hopefully it kinda cuts the wire on its own, and completes the circuit.

[Oldsman]

you can give it a shot. or go out and get different connectors

[-Alero-]

yeah i was thinking of getting the same 3M splicers i used for my gauges but they are more bulkier than these blue ones. and it was tuff enough just to get the splicers in :( , i got a feeling this wont end well.

[FormulaNERD]

i had to use different connectors. and now either the wire is melted or there is no contact in the connectors because it's not working. lol

[-Alero-]

^ wow that's not good.

well i took the car for a test drive, and i can feel the gears biting harder on that shift from P to D, and when ever it was shifting from 1st to 2nd i never heard the wheels chirp, but i noticed a little bit of a difference, but nothing really. then again i didnt really floor it considering i just drove around my neighborhood for a few seconds. i also tryed it on setting 2, thats when i really noticed a difference in shift time. but do you guys think im not noticeing that much of a difference because i could have a weak connection? i mean does it matter if it has complete metel to metal contact on the splicer? becuase i know its touching i just dont know how much is touching. just wondering if you guys noticed a big difference between stock or setting 1 thats all.

[Oldsman]

i noticed and still notice a difference between the stock and stage1

a good connection is important

[-Alero-]

how easily can you chirp the tires from the shift from 1st to 2nd?

[Oldsman]

ask jturkey. i get in to it about half throttle and at 35-40 mph

[-Alero-]

<_< i wish i knew if it was working enough or not.

[-Alero-]

do you think it can work at half capacity or would it be more something like an all or nothing full connection?

[Oldsman]

if your trac off light comes on then it is working. at least that is how i know mine is. it is all or nothing thing.

when you put it from P to D it should hit hard on stage 1. on stage 2 it should sound like you dropped your tranny.

[-Alero-]

yeah ok it sounds like that. but no i dont see my traction light coming on. but then again i only drove my car around the block for like 5 minutes, i never got to 4th gear or really floored it. :(

[Oldsman]

drive it around for awhile and see. i know another guy and i had problems with connection. had to back up and then go forward to get it to turn on but after i soldered now as soon as i put it into gear and start driving it comes on.

[-Alero-]

well you see i dont have a license so all i can really do is drive around my neighborhood

[Oldsman]

well i guess you'll have to wait. but if you say it is hard going from P to D then sounds like it is ok.

[-Alero-]

yeah, im pretty sure its working, now all i wanna do is drive it! :wah: :wah: :wah:

[Wildman]

Jump in the passenger seat, and let a friend road test it for you. Then you can have him open it up, and not worry about your license.

[Wildman]

Question on the B&M also, can you change "stages" on the fly ?? Or do you have to like, turn off the car, pick a stage, and go with it till you shut the car off again or something?

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by Wildman@Nov 14 2004, 10:23 PM
Question on the B&M also, can you change "stages" on the fly ?? Or do you have to like, turn off the car, pick a stage, and go with it till you shut the car off again or something?
turn off the car, pick a stage, and go with it till you shut the car off again

[Oldsman]

this is not always true i found out. i have been able to have it off and stop the car put it into P and switch to stage1 and go to 1 and and it turns on. I also have been able to go from stage1 to stage2 but to turn it back off have to shut car off.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by Wildman@Nov 15 2004, 12:21 AM
Jump in the passenger seat, and let a friend road test it for you. Then you can have him open it up, and not worry about your license.
yeah why dont i just let one of my friends "open up my car" last person i ever let drive my car was my girlfriend and she drove around the block, and easily wrecked it. since then i dont even trust my parents to drive it <_<

[-Alero-]

lol hate to bring this thread back up but i just realized why my tries wont chirp when i floor it. its because they are too new of tires! -_- . it kinda just came to me about a week ago. because i got these tires and rims in early july, and about the first of august my license was suspended. and i baby'd those rims. i only really heard them chirp twice when i floored it at a stop light, thats about it. cause i know these tires dont even have 1k miles on em. dont get me wrong these probably arent the worlds greatest tires but still fairly new, because i havent lost traction with them any more than once or twice, and that was in the rain. :rolleyes: so yeah thats why they wont chirp, and no offence scot, but your tires are probably older and have more mileage and are alot easier to squeel.

[Oldsman]

well they are but a lot has to do with compound of the tires.

i know with mine when they are hot it doesn't chirp as good.

another factor is my tires are smaller dia and rims are lighter.