Saturn Ion "redline"- Alero applications?

[slalomking]

Same of the early auto press reviews of the Saturn Ion "redline" (a superchaged version of the Ecotec) look promising.

Has there been any discussion here or elsewhere of the practicality of matching the Saturn setup to an existing Ecotec Alero, or dropping the whole thing in as a package?

[misslindseysue]

Mostly unrelated, but I do not like the Ion at all. Bleh.

[Final-Reality]

I'm sure it wouldnt be a hard swap, use the mounts from the ecotec alero, and the PCM from the ION... as for the tranny... I thought they were getting that new 6-speed that's used in the Sabb 9-3, so custom mounts might be in order... but it's nothing a decent shop couldnt fab up for you in a day or so...

I heard that supercharged ECOTEC was going to be a crate engine available through GMPP next year sometime... but don't hold your breath, they like to drag their feet on that sort of thing...

Also kinda off topic, but you could probably swap in the turbocharged ECOTEC from the saab 9-3 as well using the same thing... you still hav to worry about the motor/tranny mounts and probably most of the hoses just like with the supercharged engine, but personally I think turbocharged engines have a little more potential if you're going to do heavy modding to it...

[AleroSS]

anyone know the specs off the blown saab ecotec off hand, and wouldnt the intake manifold and such just bolt right on, in turn making it easier to bolt on a turbo then doin a swap? (nevermind much cheaper)

[b-spot]

I thought those were running the 2.0.. maybe i'm mistaken.

[Final-Reality]

All factory forced induction ECOTECs are (so far) destroked to 2.0L

[havik]

Here's a few links if anyone else is interested in reading:

Modern Racer: 2004-2005 Saturn ION Red Line Coupe (http://www.modernracer.com/saturnionredlinecoupe.html) : Be sure to check out the Press Reviews and Road Tests (http://www.modernracer.com/history/saturnionredlinecoupehistory.html)

AutoWeek: 2004 Saturn Red Line (http://autoweek.com/cat_content.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=reviews&loc_code=&content_code=04395168)

[Final-Reality]

The new 2.4L ECOTEC with variable valve timing, sounds like it's going to be a torquey little engine...
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2003/ecotec_upgrades.php (http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2003/ecotec_upgrades.php)

At the bottom of this page are the specs of the 2.0L ECOTEC that they plan on selling: http://www.j-body.org/gallery/gallery.php?eid=339

A pic of the supercharged 2.0L ECOTEC Crate engine:
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2003/preview/X04PT_4C025.jpg

A pic of the hydraulic cam phase adjusters on the 2005 2.4L ECOTEC:
http://www.j-body.org/gallery/sema2003/preview/X05PT_PP010.jpg

[geedog66]

so besides the supercharger and the intake what else is different from my 02 ecotec

[Final-Reality]

de-stroked billet crank, forged pistons and rods, the ECU and probably injectors... several things... I really think the cheapest/easiest way if you wanted the supercharger would be to get the entire engine and ECU and drop it into your alero..

[99ALERO]

the 2.0 Ecotech i believe is the European verson of the US Ecotech. The saab's come with the European version.

[Final-Reality]

Nah there is no "european version" really... there are several version of the ecotec in both north america and europe. In europe the ECOTEC comes as small as 1.8L, the fact that Saab ships their cars with the 2.0L Turbocharged ECOTEC means nothing... I'm not even positive that engine is available in europe...

The 2.2L version of the ECOTEC in europe has a 10.5:1 compression ratio while in north america it's 10:1...

[overdrive75]

I am almost positive that all ECOTEC's now sold in the states are 10.5:1 the saturn LS used to be the lower one at 10:1.