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maat
01-09-2005, 07:37 PM
So this summer I did a lot of highway driving and I noticed this weird thing that the transmission does at highway speed. I was wondering if anyone could explain what's happening.

So say I'm doing around 65 mph, around 2000 rpm's or so (I can't remember exactly), and I want to accelerate to get around someone. If I push the gas down a little farther, the car accelerates slowly because it's in 4th gear/overdrive. If I push it down farther than that, my tach jumps about 1 grand and the car starts accelerating a little faster, but I don't get any of the hesitation that a downshift would cause. And if I push it down even farther, I get a real 4-3 downshift (you can feel the slight hesitation during tranny transition) and my tach jumps up to 4 grand or so. And if I floor it, I get the 3-2 downshift and the very top of 2nd gear (>5000 rpm's).

What I don't understand is what's happening when the tach jumps that first grand. There's no palpable downshift, just an increase in rpm's that leads to an increase in power. The tranny's been doing this since 55,000 miles when I bought the car, so I doubt it's a problem. It really just seems that the torque converter has completely decoupled the engine from the transmission, and they're now spinning at completely unrelated speeds--but wouldn't that cause a lot of friction/heat/wear in the torque converter? It's like it's pretending to be a 5-speed.

Sorry for the novel. Thoughts?

Vtolds
01-09-2005, 07:49 PM
When I put he gas to the floor in my car it downshifts and revs up a couple 1000 rpms depending on my current speed and how close it is to a shift point. I have never felt hesitation.

|Rev|
01-09-2005, 08:13 PM
you probably went from 4-3rd the first time, our 2nd gear goes to 80, and if you nail it going 65, it will go down to 2nd

brsexton
01-09-2005, 08:49 PM
What you are seeing with the tach is the torque converter unlocking. It is locked up at highway speeds to help with fuel mileage. When you press the gas just a bit, it unlocks to help you gain speed. Mine does this and it is noraml.

maat
01-10-2005, 03:40 AM
Thanks brsexton. After looking into it further, I agree that's exactly what's happening.

AGT
01-10-2005, 10:44 PM
Did you say >5000 RPMs? mmm damn

Final-Reality
01-10-2005, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by AGT@Jan 10 2005, 10:44 PM
Did you say >5000 RPMs? mmm damn
I can make my car downshift into 2nd doing 75mph, it's revving over 6k rpms and only has another 500rpms to go, and will shift into 3rd at 80mph... You'd think most cars accelerate quickly at the top of second gear, but it's quite slow, the 2.4 makes no power above 6k rpms in stock form :(

AGT
01-11-2005, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Final-Reality+Jan 10 2005, 10:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Final-Reality @ Jan 10 2005, 10:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AGT@Jan 10 2005, 10:44 PM
Did you say >5000 RPMs? mmm damn
I can make my car downshift into 2nd doing 75mph, it's revving over 6k rpms and only has another 500rpms to go, and will shift into 3rd at 80mph... You'd think most cars accelerate quickly at the top of second gear, but it's quite slow, the 2.4 makes no power above 6k rpms in stock form :( [/b][/quote]
Yeah but why do you want to or need to....I dont like making my baby upset....she has to get me to work everyday :D

|Rev|
01-11-2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Final-Reality+Jan 11 2005, 03:55 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Final-Reality @ Jan 11 2005, 03:55 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-AGT@Jan 10 2005, 10:44 PM
Did you say >5000 RPMs? mmm damn
I can make my car downshift into 2nd doing 75mph, it's revving over 6k rpms and only has another 500rpms to go, and will shift into 3rd at 80mph... You'd think most cars accelerate quickly at the top of second gear, but it's quite slow, the 2.4 makes no power above 6k rpms in stock form :( [/b][/quote]
Yet another reason I'm selling this money gnome I'm driving around <_<