Possible Way For Ram Air The Right Way?

[wy3134]

I was just thinking, with how the subaru WRX and Evos are designed with their ram air induction, anyone think it would be not that difficult to fit a 4 banger alero w/ this, granted i guess the only question is fabricating the hood for it....but logically it seems possible to me...especially with how the air dam is placed next to the firewall but above the engine sorta

[Spilner521]

The WRX and Evo dont exactly have "ram air induction". I assume you're talking about the hoods of both vehicles (maybe you mean something different). on the WRX, the scoop feeds the intercooler. the Evo's hood vent is just that..a vent that is placed directly above the exhaust manifold/turbo to let the heat out. I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about with the air dam (maybe i'm just missing something) but a "true ram air" setup is something i've thought about also. I currently have a WAI with the filter sitting right where the stock airbox used to be. you'd have to cut a hole in the hood and put a scoop right in the middle of the hood and somehow route it so it points to the intake filter, or you could put a scoop directly over and slightly in front of the filter so that fresh air feeds directly into the intake. there's probably other ways to do it those are just the ways that i've thought of.

[Grouch]

it'd be the same in our cars if you put the scoop and intake behind the engine. I think you'd have too much heat coming up off the exhaust to see much of a benefit. Interesting idea though.

[bigd6983]

i get what ur saying.......what about a mach 1 style hood??

[wy3134]

hmm i still dont understand why they would put the intercooler where they did on the WRX, but i guess it makes sense, although to me it would make more sense for that to be the air induction....something ill look into more, since im looking for all possible ways to increase power, save space, and be unique

[wy3134]

hmm i never thought about the mach 1 style hood, that could possibly work if the piping or however u wanna direct the air to the TB can fit under the hood, i was thinking of possibly though trying to make it as direct as possible, but then again i dont understand still totally what the difference between a CAI and WAI since they look the same and all....ive spent too much time looking into engine upgrades and forgot the simple poop lol

[MilzyZ34]

a couple years ago, i fabbed up my own ram air setup on the Z34. i had a 12x2" scoop in the airdam, a 6"-4" reducer on it's outlet, 4" tube up through the fender, and out to a sealed box with a 9" k&n in it. it worked great, but the original box (which was fabricated from a rubber-made trashcan) didn't hold together with the heat, then i had another attempt at a box, but didn't like the way it looked. when i put the supercharged motor in, i moved the cone to the fender and still fed it with the front scoop. it's not true ram air anymore b/c the fender isn't sealed completely, but it is a source of constant cold air.

[csealy_31]

Originally posted by MilzyZ34@Feb 2 2005, 11:22 AM
a couple years ago, i fabbed up my own ram air setup on the Z34. i had a 12x2" scoop in the airdam, a 6"-4" reducer on it's outlet, 4" tube up through the fender, and out to a sealed box with a 9" k&n in it. it worked great, but the original box (which was fabricated from a rubber-made trashcan) didn't hold together with the heat, then i had another attempt at a box, but didn't like the way it looked. when i put the supercharged motor in, i moved the cone to the fender and still fed it with the front scoop. it's not true ram air anymore b/c the fender isn't sealed completely, but it is a source of constant cold air.
Along the same lines as Milzy Z34 you can also use the stock air box for a ram air effect. You can fab a duct for the fromt air dam where the fog light would go and run a dryer vent to the "resonator(restricto) tube". This will feed the stock airbox with a k&n quite well. I had this setup until I purchased my WAI. Now I use the bottom of the stock airbox as well as the duct and tube to supply my new intake with cold air, however, the ram effect is lost since the top of the box is gone. It works great until you sit still at a stop light in the summer.

[SilverBullet256]

for one, they put the intercooler where they did so they could use the scoop to cool it down better which in return would help with power, and yes it would be possible to make a ram air induction, you would just have to use it the same way as they did the camaro SS ram air, well you dont have to but that idea would work :thumbsup:

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by wy3134@Feb 2 2005, 02:30 AM
hmm i still dont understand why they would put the intercooler where they did on the WRX, but i guess it makes sense, although to me it would make more sense for that to be the air induction....something ill look into more, since im looking for all possible ways to increase power, save space, and be unique
its a boxster engine, it sits lower, its a completely different engine than most normal engines

[-Alero-]

also, i had an idea that i was thinking of for about a week (hope im not stealing the thread) , this is for all of us who have WAI's, and this isnt exactly ram air either, its just a possible way to breathe better. is it possible to add some sort of plastice extension to the piping where the old air box used to draw air from. (the plastice piping that is removed when you put a CAI in) and add like another end to where ever that plastic piece ends, and shape it so that it can have air flow into the engine, but not so much that it doesnt suck up rocks and water. kinda like a breather i guess. and you could set up a fine grill at the top of the plastic that leads into the engine, for safety that it wont get anything nasty in the engine and get it dirty. this was just an idea. ^_^

[SilverBullet256]

it would basically be the same as your stock setup, but with better p[iping and a better filter, would only experience a slight gain ove r stock this way :smokin:

[-Alero-]

well im talking about aleady having a WAI, and just letting the WAI breathe easier. maybe get some cooler air. :( im not sure this is just an idea, someone will come along here soon and shoot me down with one of thier posts :(

[SilverBullet256]

not a bad idea and it is a good try, maybe it would work, and if someone try's to shoot you down, screw them, we'll sick jackel and his love for men on them :thumbsup: